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Toxicity of low elo and their pseudoknowledge a.k.a. trashtalk U BAD ME GOOD

Unreformed Goose·5/25/2019, 4:16:33 PM·1 votes·1,737 views

Hi im around plat-diamond player and I have been recently reformed. Im having this account right now on silver 1. And for real and im not willing to try to climb. I can play like maximum 2 rankeds a day because its so fucking tilting. I don't want to flame anymore so i just quit after "bad game". Im not even able to climb fast because I don't feel like im being rewarded for tryharding. While ur team is good u easily win, but when they are a bit worse they just go hard on you (im jungler) and I just don't want to play anymore. What is the point of playing and trying to climb while for playing good but not just as someone wants you to, ur being slammed. No matter how good will I play, I just get like 3/0 or even not, just being ahead on jungle they still even fucking dare to trashtalk you. And you know what? They are not punished. Im not getting feedback that they were. Im meeting this type of behaviour everyday because its very common. Why? Because its not punished. As simple as that.

I want to share my experience from before. Last game I played Assassin Kayn because it was probably free game for this pick. I played vs 4 squishy immobile champions and the only threat was enemy Garen who ofc I cannot compete. I evem asked last pick temmate to pick something good against it who will be able to deal with him in late and everything will be alright because I expected (based on my experience )that if I won't do 90% job of my team, I won't win and therefore I will be flamed.

Guess what happened. He fucking fed lane, started to constantly blame me. I muted him. Just kept having farm adavantage over enemy jungle, took drake, herald. And of course my Morgana went hard flame on me because she died from evelynn gank. Kayn is not able to gank that easily pre-form, its just for the better to farm and im just this type of player. OK. I got a little mad. But still didnt write anything, just muted him. And than she just stole my gromp. Why wouldn't she. She can attack it so she will take it, BECAUSE IM BAD JUNGLER ME NO GANK. Of course this action alone is not a reason for ban. Its not even checkable while u get reports. I get it. But her constant behaviour was just writing and saying how bad jungler I was. Literally to this point of game I think I did not do anything wrong and I think I was still 0 deaths. Just because im not able to go 10/0 beacuse of their mistakes, they are entitled to call me shit?

Than I wrote something toxic but it was just one chat message. And I just realized what I did and tried to just calm myself and still win this game. Of course playing this champ against fed evelynn and garen was just close to impossible to get back in the game I just kept doing 1 for 1 and ended up 8/9 I think. All of my teammates of course had worse score, didnt get any objective on their own, didnt put any wards or things like that. They played on their level. I get that. They are low elo players. Im ok with that. But why for fuck sake they can just trashtalk me. Than in some point of game my midalner also called me something like shit. And I went hard. Few messages calling them trashes. I couldn't resist. It didn't happen for so long time. But its just like with addiction, alcholism - they just feed you with this crap whole game long with messages, pings and grefing such as stealing camps. Yes, I can mute everyone at the beginnig of the game. But why I have to? Why can't I just play in normal environment able to communicate with my team and trusting that they wont thrashtalk you. I got few bans already. And eventaully I will get the next one I guess. For how long can I read that im far worse than the others while im not and its proven by my climbing. Im not child ofc, I should be able to resist myself. But everyone has their limit. It's me who write this shit. But they make me do it, period. Sounds stupid, but it is true at least partially.

Conclusion TL:DR In harsh words, but idc. A lot of r%%%%%ed shit players from low elo have no game knowledge and yet they are free to call you bad player and shit. They just write it without any reflexion on why enemies actaully gets advantage, they do it just because game goes wrong. It is very common so it means this type of behaviour is not being punished right now. Fix it, I beg you, because it takes all of the fun from playing.

Dear Riot, Why do you care only if someone tells me to kill myself. I care less that random wishes me death than he calls me bad just because we are losing. Acknowledge it and do something with it. I don't know about the others, but personally I feel like noone gives fuck if somoene tells my mother should get cancer. I know its not happening. But it annoys me that someone feels free to blame me.

11 Comments

GatekeeperTDS5/25/2019, 4:25:59 PM7 votes

I have been recently reformed I wrote something toxic And I went hard. Few messages calling them trashes

Just because you say you're reformed doesn't mean you're reformed. (You're not.)

But its just like with addiction, alcholism But they make me do it

Since you decided to bring alcoholism into this, which is a shitty thing to do and nothing like the inability to control yourself in a video game, allow me to educate you. I know reformed alcoholics. What they had to do to reform was admit they have a problem and admit that it's their own fault. How dare you compare this League horseshit to something like alcoholism all the while saying you're reformed and yet still flaming your teammates.

Kei1435/25/2019, 5:51:23 PM3 votes

You have to accept that silvers are bad and they don't know anything. They play at a very different strategy than your diamond strategy. They fight, they don't know their limits, they have bad map awareness and positioning. You can't apply your diamond thoughts to them.

Instead of calling for team out, you have learn to be able to rally your team to play around you.

Hotarµ5/25/2019, 4:43:36 PM2 votes

I have been recently reformed I wrote something toxic And I went hard. Few messages calling them trashes

As GatekeeperTDS said, reformed players don't engage in any toxic behavior. There's no leniency to be had, if you flame, you're not reformed.

Sorry to be so blunt about it. Everyone slips up from time to time but you can't call yourself reformed and also call people trash.

And you know what? They are not punished. Im not getting feedback that they were. Im meeting this type of behaviour everyday because its very common. Why? Because its not punished. As simple as that.

It is punished, though.

The IFS message is inconsistent at best, meaning you can't gauge the punishment system off of that alone. If you need validation that negative behavior is punished, check the rest of the Player Behavior board. There are tons of posts from people who have been punished for negative attitude, cursing, hate speech, intentionally feeding, AFKing, everything under the sun.

Just because those players didn't warrant an immediate punishment (which might not even be the case, because again the IFS message is inconsistent) doesn't mean that won't come back to haunt them in the future. Sometimes players are given 1-3 games of toxicity before earning a punishment to "build up a case", if you will.

Im not child ofc, I should be able to resist myself. But everyone has their limit. It's me who write this shit. But they make me do it, period. Sounds stupid, but it is true at least partially.

While I agree that everyone makes mistakes, you're pushing the blame off to others and not accepting responsibility for your actions.

Yes, they were most likely flaming you and their behavior doesn't sound acceptable, but neither does yours. Two wrongs don't make a right, and by engaging in them through negative behavior you set yourself up for punishment and stoop to their level.

Dear Riot, Why do you care only if someone tells me to kill myself.

They care about that and many other behaviors, as evidenced by the fact that tons of players have been punished for much, much less.