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Context should be taken into account in banning players for "slurs"

LogicalThinkTank·11/2/2017, 5:55:56 PM·2 votes·771 views

I only say this not because I am banned, but because I know that league will 14day/perma ban you for use of certain slurs like the N word or F word (pertaining to black or gay people)

so I wanted to run a little experiment of my own to actually test the system and give some feedback on it

The experiment was to not play any games for a series of days to ensure there where no games in which I reported anyone and that, that person may be waiting for a punishment.

After those days I recently played a few games in which I purposefully attempted to bait players into saying those two words with phrases like "what is the word that is used as a slur against gay or black people I forgot?"

sure enough in one game players did end up using the word, in attempts to obviously answer my question, so from there I would report them for using that word, and wait and see how good this instant feedback system is.

sure enough I leave my PC for a few minutes and boom I come back to an instant feedback reported player has been punished, in each and every game (about a total of 3 or 4) that I did this.

Now you might say "hey that was a jerk move of you to do" or be mad at me that I baited them into getting punished, HOWEVER I did it as a reason to show a flaw in this system, context isnt taken into account at all. I'm not saying this because Im punished Im doing this to try and help riot fix this system and make it better, because It is my belief that somebody shouldn't be banned just for simply using the word, but they should be banned only if somebody took offense and reported them for the use of that word, provided the use of the word was used in a toxic manner.

Those are just my two cents on the system, that it shouldnt be possible for me to bait somebody into saying the word then report them and get them banned.

whats worse? theres no punishment for anyone actually doing something like this and I feel like there should be a punishment where people try to get players to break the rules so they can report them

28 Comments

Eedat11/2/2017, 7:10:05 PM5 votes

Hey buddy. I sent a report into Riot letting them know what you did just so you know. Dont bother deleting it as I've already taken a screen shot

They were held hostage by a player that coerced them into saying zero tolerance phrases under threat of feeding.

I'm working on a systematic solution for this atm. We can also easily query for players doing this and they will be perma-banned.

Link

Enjoy the perma.

DrCyanide11/2/2017, 6:06:52 PM3 votes

Riot's aware of people ban baiting and is trying to create solutions for it, no need to create more problem cases while it's being worked on.

mtothe6thpower11/3/2017, 12:23:55 AM2 votes

It's probably because there is no context within which using a slur is appropriate, even answering a question. Unless it's a question google can't answer then no one should answer it. Give me a single context in which using a slur is appropriate.

RallerenP11/2/2017, 6:04:14 PM1 votes

I believe they are currently looking into things like this after someone got banned for saying 'neck yourself' 3 times.

He was forced to say, because one of his teammates threathened to int if he didn't.

He was unbanned, and Tantram was looking into a system to avoid this kind of stuff. Meanwhile, players getting punished because of these things should contact Riot Support and have their case looked at.

HauntingTheNet11/2/2017, 7:05:15 PM1 votes

I suspect and almost hope that you will be getting banned for ban baiting people if they actually check those bans out.

Part of me feels like you did something great to prove that the system needs to be fixed...

... but far more of me is disturbed that innocent people got banned because of your experimenting. If you wanted to do this, why could you not have simply had yourself and a friend both make new accounts on the Asian server and then do the same thing and 'report' the fake account of your friend? That would have gotten the same results as your testing but without harming innocent players.

General Esdeath 11/2/2017, 8:48:15 PM1 votes

That's not a flaw, that's someone being stupid lmao