Permanent Bans

xReadyPlayerOnex·10/7/2016, 7:08:53 AM·2 votes·499 views

Permanent Bans should be removed. Accounts should be eligible to be played again after 1 year.

People change over time. I think it's wrong to not acknowledge that.

These accounts could be played again and receive scaling punishments. 1 year, 5 years, etc.

This is because a perm ban doesn't remove the player from the community. I just don't agree with the implications of permanent bans.

17 Comments

RageQ210/7/2016, 7:39:43 AM8 votes

Yet it's not Riots fault if their breaking some of the borderline rules, yes there are some rules that don't generally pass the line, but Riot still perm bans it, which of course could be changed (i.e. warnings and scaling suspension like you stated), but some of the rules are already told from Riot in their Terms of Use and Tribunal (Which unfortunately is going under some maintenance at the moment), but some of the parts in Terms of Use state reasoning to permanent bans:

  • "2.1.3. The Tribunal®. The Tribunal® system allows our community of users to police the compliance of other users with the “Summoner’s Code,” which outlines the principles of ideal game play behavior, as well as with our other policies. Community members, including you, may submit descriptions of activity and actions of certain users within the Game, and collectively determine if that particular user was in compliance with our policies. If The Tribunal determines, in its sole discretion, that you have violated one of our policies, we may suspend or terminate your account on behalf of the community."

  • "2.2 ... You understand and agree that using the Riot Services comes with the risk that your account may be terminated or suspended and that, whenever you use the Riot Services, you’ll bear this risk in mind and always conduct yourself appropriately."

It is solely their decision on whether or not the ban should be proceeded with. If it's a yes and you're violated a rule then Riot has all rights to ban you, it's their game in fact. It can also be on the behalf of the community, i.e. Flamers, Trolls, Rude/Unsportsmanlike Behaviours. I see countless people blaming Riot even though half of it was viewed and token action upon our own community, the only thing Riot did was judge the report.

They also have "Code of Conduct" (Section 5) which explains all in-game behaviours that have risk of suspension. Generally people never read stuff like this, which will cost them these bans, this is in no way Riots fault.

Wonderlands10/7/2016, 7:39:21 AM6 votes

Problem with that is:

  • Start a new smurf account to be toxic on for a year disregarding bans
  • Back on old account probably not learning the lesson.
IsoVhell10/7/2016, 5:32:52 PM4 votes

Nah perma ban is good for toxic or cheats.

EvilDustMan10/7/2016, 7:37:19 AM3 votes

Nah.

DrCyanide10/7/2016, 4:41:46 PM3 votes

I see where you're coming from. I'm not certain I agree, but I could see a case for such a change where the cause of the punishment was a slow escalation through the tiered punishment system. There's a chance the player who regularly steps out of line and lashes out at their teammates would chill in a year.

However, I still think there should be a permaban category. Death threats, "kys", racial slurs, etc are the kind of language that is severe enough it should be meet with equally severe punishments. The message for those things should be loud and clear, you don't do this, ever.

Astôlfo10/7/2016, 7:02:00 PM2 votes

"Permanent Bans should be removed. Accounts should be eligible to be played again after 1 year." No.

"People change over time. I think it's wrong to not acknowledge that." No one cares if they've changed over time. It doesn't matter.

"These accounts could be played again and receive scaling punishments. 1 year, 5 years, etc." Or no, they can just stay perma'd.

"This is because a perm ban doesn't remove the player from the community. I just don't agree with the implications of permanent bans." It does, unless they make another account. And if they do, unless they've reformed, they'll get banned again. And again. And again. Until they give up. Whether or not you agree is irrelevant. You're not the one deciding.