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I hate this game's ban system

ZA WARUDO·1/19/2018, 8:26:02 PM·1 votes·726 views
Game 1 Za Warudo: ur bad shut up Za Warudo: silver Za Warudo: u farm when im - Pastebin.com

I say one toxic thing "ur bad shutup", the rest were just replies to my team flaming me or enemy trash talking/swearing their heads off and I'm the one who gets the ban. And the trash talk wasn't only things like "?" "your fucking trash" in chat. It was personal insults "do you have adhd" "your a virgin bitch" "how hard do you get bullied" "you have some mental illness" "your a meme everyone is laughing at you". You may say I'm toxic for replying but not once did i take my replies to personal insults, who deserves the ban more?

One of them after game got even more personal saying something along the lines of "your a lesser being im higher than you" "your in the lower economic structure" and "I will find you what's your name". I said some bad stuff to him but nowhere near as bad as threats, it's so frustrating he goes unpunished.

Muting is the best option but when people you know your better than start insulting your skill in a team game (with so many factors affecting 1v1) in which you put hundreds of hours in It's incredibly hard for me to swallow pride and pretend they didn't say anything. I always want to 1v1 them after but they're too scared of losing because they know there's a chance they'll lose. I haven't felt the need to mute enemy team in platinum+ because the trash talk rarely happens but I'll start doing this in low elo.

It seems like Riot punishes the people on tilt and not the people creating the tilt which are the source of toxicity. Their new system only looks at what you say and not the whole chat to get better context. I never flame my teammates for doing bad unless they do which I then point out what they did bad, or trash talk unless someone does first. Berate me all you want for upvotes but there's still something wrong with this system when the fire is taken out and the lighter ignored. This game was extremely tilting having EVERYONE in game flame/insult me, cut me some slack Riot.

My chat logs in link.

9 Comments

ModThe Djinn1/19/2018, 9:10:33 PM7 votes

You said more than one toxic thing.

Za Warudo: ur bad shut up Za Warudo: and my bots retarded Za Warudo: oh ur silver 3 Za Warudo: im auotmatically better than u Za Warudo: ur silver 3 remeber Za Warudo: so im auto better than u Za Warudo: and that makes u worse than "bad"" Za Warudo: u guys are toxic fro trash talking Za Warudo: and retarded bot at same time Za Warudo: i hope u get butthurt Za Warudo: the same way Za Warudo: learn to get out of silevr Za Warudo: then come shit talk Za Warudo: i am better tahn u Za Warudo: ur silver Za Warudo: silvers

Rank shaming, calling people toxic, calling people retarded, and calling people bad is all pretty unsportsmanlike and insulting behavior. Riot has a policy against that sort of thing.

I also can't give much weight to the "they started it" argument for two reasons -- firstly, you're still responsible for your own behavior. Secondly, rather than attempt to deescalate the situation, respond gracefully, or simply ignore them, you opened immediately with this:

Za Warudo: ur bad shut up Za Warudo: silver

That sort of defeats any argument that you were trying to remain composed.

OnlyYouCanHearMe1/19/2018, 10:37:14 PM2 votes

At the end of the day, your ego is writing checks that your account can't cash. I'm not sure which level of punishment this was for you, whether it was a 14 day suspension or a permanent suspension, but if it was a 14 day suspension, you've got one last chance to keep from losing your account. If it was a permanent suspension, then I suppose you'll be on to a new account if you want to keep playing. Either way, if you want to keep those accounts, you need to stop lording this superior attitude over the other players in your games.

Rank isn't everything, and it certainly doesn't give you the right to insult other players who have been matched with you because they have a similar mmr to your own. Reading your logs, you tried to roam and were caught out, killed, and ended up falling behind in lane and then lost to your lane enemy because of it. Rather than owning up to the mistake of being caught out, you went off on your team for not coming to help you - through the enemy bot lane, bot turret, and the enemy jungler, which would have likely resulted in one or both of them falling behind in exp as well, if not dying, and losing their lane - as well as began a pissing match with the enemy laner who you fell behind. And the truly sad thing is, if you had actually been as much better than her as you claimed to be, you would have known how to play the lane from there, farming back up the exp, looking for other, safer roam options, and not needing to have a verbal argument that you couldn't mechanically back up. But you chose to throw out a bunch of insults and bravado that just looks like salt.

Next time, try telling your team "mb, didn't know Lee was there. I'll play safe til I catch up and try to roam again. sorry guys." When you don't act like an asshat to your team, they stop flaming you and acting like asshats to you. It stops the tilt.

Imperial Pandaa1/19/2018, 8:30:16 PM1 votes

Can you just post the logs here? I personally have never had a good experience with pastebin and don't feel like having it jack up my phone again.

Kei1431/19/2018, 9:13:07 PM1 votes

The instigators aren't ignored. The system punished based on consistency x severity, so for someone to be punished they have to display either hate speech (super severe) or consistent toxicity.

Now we don't know the other people's behavioral history, so you really don't know how often they offend.

The system also only gives you a punishment notification when the game you reported the person in is displayed in the reform card. The reform cord only shows 1-5 recent games as examples of unacceptable behavior, so anything that got reported before that won't show in the reform card, which means even if they do get punished, you probably would not know.

I don't know if you need to know more details about why your punishment is justified, but the punishment is yours to own alone, other's people's actions aren't an excuse for you to swoop down to their level. I am sure this type of behavior happens often, so you are punished based on consistent minor-moderate toxicity.