Chat violations (with the exception of racism/kill yourself/or IRL threats) shouldnt result in bans

BigCholsMD·11/25/2018, 5:08:10 PM·3 votes·1,699 views

Chat violations should only lead to chat restrictions unless they are racial slurs or telling someone to kill themselves in any form or threats to harm IRL. The game has a built in adult language filter that you have to turn off to disable, and players have the ability to hit tab and mute all or mute you and mute all chat. Chat violations outside of the specifics I mentioned should not result in you getting banned from playing. I feel like inting, griefing, afking, troll item selecting, deliberately ignoring the team and wandering around doing nothing deliberately should lead to bans because they ruin the game for all 9 other people, not chat violations, which do not ruin the game; especially considering the players can control the chat they see. You cannot control someone inting or griefing as described above, thus those should be the bannable offenses.

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Umbral Regent11/25/2018, 5:17:06 PM6 votes

The game has a built in adult language filter that you have to turn off to disable...

The mature language filter is simply there to prevent some players from dealing with communications which might offend their sensibilities (whether it's personal reasons, religious, whatever). Swearing, in general, is not punished, except in the cases of which it's used to attack someone.

...and players have the ability to hit tab and mute all or mute you and mute all chat.

And the mute feature is a short-term defense tool against toxicity, not an excuse to allow it. The burden should not be on players to have to mute you because you want to break the rules - it should be on you to follow the rules.

Chat violations outside of the specifics I mentioned should not result in you getting banned from playing.

Continually chat restricting someone doesn't work, though. If they can't be bothered to play by the rules - even despite several warnings that they need to change their behavior - then why let them play at all?

There's a certain point when it's clear that the punished player isn't going to reform, and that's the point where Riot has to put their foot down and ban them.

I feel like inting, griefing, afking, troll item selecting, deliberately ignoring the team and wandering around doing nothing deliberately should lead to bans because they ruin the game for all 9 other people...

Those offenses do lead to a ban. Intentionally feeding, griefing, trolling, and active non-participation results in a 14-day ban for the first offense, with a permanent ban as the second.

not chat violations, which do not ruin the game...

For you. Just because flaming and toxicity does not ruin the game for you, does not mean that it doesn't ruin it for anyone else.

I, for one, absolutely hate playing games where my team is flaming each other. It detracts from the game, and I may be able to mute the two flamers, but is that gonna stop them from dropping the game to keep at their flame war? No.

There is a reason Riot punishes flaming; whether you like it or not, and whether you agree with it or not, flaming and toxicity ruin the game.

...especially considering the players can control the chat they see.

Again, see above - both that the mute feature existing is not an excuse to allow toxicity, and that I may be able to mute flamers, but that's not going to stop them from flaming.

The Highest Noon11/25/2018, 7:11:01 PM2 votes

I do not and will never understand why anybody thinks that it's justifiable to escalate a punishment from a misdemeanor to an felony. If out in the real world where there are well thought-out laws that consider the rights of people as individuals, you would NEVER see someone be sentenced to life imprisonment for verbal assault. The punishment doesn't fit the crime.

Obviously this is a video game and everyone and their grandma can justify the decision, but I don't think that a chat-based offense should ever result in any punishment other than one that's chat-based. We know that Riot has the power to remove chat privileges so that's not an issue.

"But there wath thith ecthperiment where Riot removed people'th chat and they juth fed 'n' thtuff!"

So then, Little Timmy, punish them for feeding. That should be the obvious response, not "So then we should just stop improving the system! Of course!"

"They'll do other crimes" doesn't change anything, because there are systems in place for those crimes too. It shouldn't be used as justification to create a bigger issue to solve a smaller issue. The punishment should escalate only as the crime escalates, not as a means to fix a petty crime.