Is Riot Too Aggressive with Judging Bans?

TheeAnomaly·7/21/2019, 5:48:59 AM·3 votes·2,282 views

I was given a 10 game chat restriction from two games. The chat itself is obviously given to me, but of course it’s only my chat and not the others:

Game 1: I had an Annie mid who had an attitude, I obviously also had an attitude. The ‘offensive’ words used were loser, slow, idiot and bronze buddy. I don’t recall wether I or the mid actually started the altercation.

I feel there is a point in everyones life, especially the gaming community, where you start sticking up for yourself.

Game 2: I was playing support and I had an apparent (unknown to me) new player to league. Im talking enemy adc had 9 times cs when I said something. Im talking heal at half health with no enemies around. Im talking I pinged her, the ward trinket, ?’d the bot riv bush and then said ward the bush with no understanding. When I am playing a video game I expect the minimum expectation of players is the ability to read. Anyways I told the adc to focus, and that she way behind on cs and then (now known) premade mid told me to calm down and that she was knew. I was confused why someone would recommend add (where you have to watch the mini map, the minions, your support, enemy support, enemy adc, and abilities) and so that turned into educational debate. The words again were “tard” (I didn’t say this until after he called me a “r%%%%%” twice, loser, and other minors words. This game just happened which is why it’s so vivid.

After the debate was over I apologized to the adc. The premade of the adc all chatted multiple times to report me.

The importance: Is riot too eager/aggressive regarding their criteria to ban? Should riot program to look for apologies? Should you be “allowed” to stick up for yourself? Should riot look at the chat of the report-er when determining a ban?

10 Comments

Subdue7/22/2019, 2:18:13 AM2 votes

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I was given a 10 game chat restriction from two games. The chat itself is obviously given to me, but of course it’s only my chat and not the others:

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Q: Is riot too eager/aggressive regarding their criteria to ban? A: No. If anything, Riot is too lenient. People get away with some pretty awful stuff.

Q: Should riot program to look for apologies? A: This exists already, it's called getting 3 warnings before you're permanently banned.

Q: Should you be “allowed” to stick up for yourself? A: Yes, via the mute button. When you start talking back, you're no longer "sticking up for yourself." You're attacking.

Q: Should riot look at the chat of the report-er when determining a ban? A: You are responsible for your chat regardless of what others say or do in game. If you think the other party has done something wrong, you also have access to the report button.

bluefire mark 27/22/2019, 2:24:46 AM2 votes

Yes, heck fricken yes the system is DEFINITELY outdated, terrible, and needs worked on. Even my friend who doesn't play league knows that league and overwatch have terrible systems. If he even knows, why don't others? Because they don't care. Most people mute chat or never use it, as riot and support tells you. Most people don't have the experience. They think its fine because they go off of "you were toxic therefore you deserve it" when in reality, that is simply untrue. Speaking of experience, i know the system is bad. I was good for years, nothing happened, i had one bad day and bad game, got one chat restriction, then it felt like the system was just staring at me, waiting for one bad word to punish me for. After that even the slightest things got me punished until finally, a 14 day ban. After that, one to two months of playing later i had ONE BAD GAME. Got perm banned on that account. Not i don't know about you, but I'm not very consistently toxic. Very mildly at times, and i never got punished till that one. Then every bad time i had, i got punished which was around ONCE A MONTH. Not to mention, i was never the cause of it. Yeah i know riot doesn't care about context just that you were toxic, but if I'm telling someone to shut up and leave others alone since it's rude and mean, why am i getting punished and not the one causing the problem? The system has issues. It goes without saying, even if you deny it it does. Whether you say i lie I'm not. The system does need a change.. and i hope it does recieve one. I do like the game and i would like it to get better.

rujitra7/21/2019, 6:05:08 AM1 votes

What other players do does not give you the right to violate the rules - so no, their actions/chat will not be taken into account. You apologizing does not make up for you violating the rules either.

GatekeeperTDS7/21/2019, 6:11:03 AM1 votes

You don't need to stick up for yourself and further derail the game for other people. Ignore assholes, they're not worth your time.

Now, when you've only received the first punishment, is when you need to decide if you're going to follow the rules are not. This might suck to hear, but nothing you say or do is going to change the rules for you. Focus on the good people in your games, and tune out the bad ones.

W H l T E B O Y7/21/2019, 6:15:21 AM1 votes

You also can't say "reported" or "reported for hate speech" when a jerk calls you a fa****

Telephone Booth7/25/2019, 4:21:40 AM1 votes

I would hope you stick up for yourself, jeez. You mention it as if you usually just take abuse until you snap lol.