I just want to hear people's thoughts on the possibility of why the Tribunal can't still be implemented in some fashion in today's League. I'm willing to discuss things here, and I do hope a Rioter sees this and is willing to discuss things with me as well.
Because it was removed for being too slow due to the sheer number of games and reports coming in, and because it was less accurate than the system doing reviews now (i.e. more punishments were found to be improperly handled upon Riot review). Given that the system is getting more accurate and League is far larger than it ever was with the Tribunal, reverting seems like a strict step backwards.
The Tribunal might have worked back in the Alpha/Beta stages of the game, but at our current state it's just not possible. There are way too many reports being sent out from hundreds of thousands of games that it wouldn't matter how many Tribunal cases were reviewed by the community, they would get backed up and nobody would ever get punished for anything.
It's just not a realistic solution at this point.
One word: scalability.
###* The old Tribunal System doesn't scale well to League's current population. *
If you haven't read the article about the tribunal from last year August, here it is;
https://nexus.leagueoflegends.com/en-us/2018/08/ask-riot-will-tribunal-return/
If you've been punished and hope the tribunal would save you, I'll tell you right now that it won't save you.
The current system's detection criterias are based on the data gathered from the tribunal (and before). The only reason why you probably weren't punished while the tribunal was around was because it was soooooo dam slow that it took a while before it caught up to you.
If you are wondering if the Tribunal caught people with disruptive gameplay behavior, then no. The Tribunal was not capable of such judgement.
One can argue to use the Tribunal to judge whether or not people with disruptive gameplay should be reviewed using the tribunal, but if chat offenses in the Tribunal system already took forever to review, imagine how long it will take for gameplay reviews.
I get what you guys all mean. Personally, I think I have a few ideas that could have solved the bias problem with the tribunal as well as the whole review issue, but I do see a few issues with that as well, including the whole population issue. I do see why it was removed, but I also did learn a few things that I didn't before. I think I might have been one of the few people who made an attempt to actually review cases. I think it also served personally for me as a good way to untilt. Seeing other people act out always seems to put things in perspective for me and help me unwind. I usually did it in between games (especially when waiting for friends to finish their games).
I miss the tribunal. Got like 60k free ip from just mashing ban the player without even reading what they did like 95% of the population. The system never worked but I still miss it.
Let's do math. Let's say a Tribunal is composed of 3 people. Let's say it takes 3 people to review 1 game. So 1x3 = 3.
Let's say there are now 2 games reported. It would then take 6 people to review it. 2x3 = 6
Now let's bump that up to 4 games. 4x3 = 12
Currently, there are THOUSANDS of players playing this game. Some math:
1000 x 3 = 3000 10,000 x 3 = 30,000
As you can see, there needs to be an ABSURD number of people to keep the tribunal system functional as the playerbase increases. That means the Tribunal gets incredibly huge, or incredibly bogged down, neither of which are particularly feasible or useful for the game.
I think Kei, rhythmatic, and oleander's posts, give a well rounded insight as to why it would be horrible. It always was horrible though, imo.
Even if the Tribunal were still here, your punishment is now at the whim of other players who overwhelmingly voted to punish. I don't know if this is what you were thinking, but a lot of people who come here wanting the Tribunal back thinks it would work "better" than the automated system. And by "better," they mean "I wouldn't get punished." You absolutely would get punished, even moreso than now.
