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Is tying honor to Clash meant to embarrass you with your IRL friends?

JadeKirin92784·2/1/2018, 7:01:41 PM·1 votes·407 views

I was wondering if part of the purpose of tying honor with Clash was to embarrass you with your IRL friends. As someone who was recently punished, believe me, it's a powerful negative reinforcement motivator. So if that was the purpose, it's definitely working as intended.

But if that is the case, it's confusing to me is why Riot hides your honor level from the public. There are already toxicity punishments from which people (especially the people you're close to IRL and play with often) can infer your low Honor level, such as not having a ranked border or not being able to participate in Clash. If they really wanted to double down the embarrassment, couldn't they make everyone's honor level public? Perhaps they want you to be embarrassed but don't want other toxic people flaming you because of your honor level.

I guess I'm just frustrated and embarrassed because I have to have an extremely awkward conversation with my IRL friends why I can't join them in Clash. I'm already deeply ashamed of the behavior that got me punished, but it feels like now I have to make it public.

If I were to suggest something to the Player Behavior Moderation team, it would be to make punishments less visible, but longer or more severe in other ways. Perhaps locking gaining levels for a long period or extending the reform period. As it is now, I feel that the punishment is very effective at the negative reinforcement (I thoroughly regret my actions), but I'm tempted to quit the game if I can't make it to Honor 2 in time (or at least lie to my friends while I play in secret trying to raise the honor level!).

If you made it this far, thank you for reading my overly long, depressing rant. Hope you have a wonderful day!

7 Comments

Chermorg2/1/2018, 7:06:35 PM3 votes

Clash is not in a fully released state yet. It is still in a sort of "open, public beta" environment. They are still working out the kinks for it and some regions have not seen it at all yet. It makes perfect sense that they do not want the feedback about clash to be bogged down or clouded by toxicity in the game mode.

Riot has said repeatedly that they're against a "prisoner's island" approach to things, and as such I doubt they will leave the honor requirement once released. That being said, it would also make sense they would, given that Clash is a professional style tournament, and not just free play.

Red Lotus2/1/2018, 7:05:18 PM1 votes

Clash is already a thing..? How what? I don't see anything.

Kei1432/1/2018, 8:27:14 PM1 votes

If clash is a simulation of a professional environment, then it would make sense to simulate the behavioral standards that they follow as well.

FunkyBrewster2/1/2018, 9:33:56 PM1 votes

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I was wondering if part of the purpose of tying honor with Clash was to embarrass you with your IRL friends. As someone who was recently punished, believe me, it's a powerful negative reinforcement motivator. So if that was the purpose, it's definitely working as intended.

But if that is the case, it's confusing to me is why Riot hides your honor level from the public. There are already toxicity punishments from which people (especially the people you're close to IRL and play with often) can infer your low Honor level, such as not having a ranked border or not being able to participate in Clash. If they really wanted to double down the embarrassment, couldn't they make everyone's honor level public? Perhaps they want you to be embarrassed but don't want other toxic people flaming you because of your honor level.

I guess I'm just frustrated and embarrassed because I have to have an extremely awkward conversation with my IRL friends why I can't join them in Clash. I'm already deeply ashamed of the behavior that got me punished, but it feels like now I have to make it public.

If I were to suggest something to the Player Behavior Moderation team, it would be to make punishments less visible, but longer or more severe in other ways. Perhaps locking gaining levels for a long period or extending the reform period. As it is now, I feel that the punishment is very effective at the negative reinforcement (I thoroughly regret my actions), but I'm tempted to quit the game if I can't make it to Honor 2 in time (or at least lie to my friends while I play in secret trying to raise the honor level!).

If you made it this far, thank you for reading my overly long, depressing rant. Hope you have a wonderful day!

Oh sweet! My friends and I are in a race to the bottom. We try to get only 1 ban per account every 6 months, and when one of us isn't "low" enough, we throw out the absurd levels of obscenity. Got one banned last night!

themachamp2/1/2018, 9:40:01 PM1 votes

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I was wondering if part of the purpose of tying honor with Clash was to embarrass you with your IRL friends. As someone who was recently punished, believe me, it's a powerful negative reinforcement motivator. So if that was the purpose, it's definitely working as intended.

But if that is the case, it's confusing to me is why Riot hides your honor level from the public. There are already toxicity punishments from which people (especially the people you're close to IRL and play with often) can infer your low Honor level, such as not having a ranked border or not being able to participate in Clash. If they really wanted to double down the embarrassment, couldn't they make everyone's honor level public? Perhaps they want you to be embarrassed but don't want other toxic people flaming you because of your honor level.

I guess I'm just frustrated and embarrassed because I have to have an extremely awkward conversation with my IRL friends why I can't join them in Clash. I'm already deeply ashamed of the behavior that got me punished, but it feels like now I have to make it public.

If I were to suggest something to the Player Behavior Moderation team, it would be to make punishments less visible, but longer or more severe in other ways. Perhaps locking gaining levels for a long period or extending the reform period. As it is now, I feel that the punishment is very effective at the negative reinforcement (I thoroughly regret my actions), but I'm tempted to quit the game if I can't make it to Honor 2 in time (or at least lie to my friends while I play in secret trying to raise the honor level!).

If you made it this far, thank you for reading my overly long, depressing rant. Hope you have a wonderful day!

The honor lock away is already insanely long. I bet there will be plenty of people who were punished in season 7 that will stay in honor levels 0/1 for all of season 8. =/

Best Vi Earth2/2/2018, 3:58:52 AM1 votes

you still have time to rank up a smurf dude.