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With the Nunu "Support" Debate going on I decided to talk about what is "Meta" and "Trolling"

Skorch·2/28/2017, 12:40:42 PM·4 votes·2,175 views

To understand "The Meta" we must understand "Standard Lanes"

Standard Lanes: Solo Top (Usually somewhere between a tank/fighter) Solo Jungler (Usually either an assassin or a bruiser/diver) Solo Mid (Usually either a Mage or Assassin) ADC Bot (Almost always a Marksman) Support Bot (Either a Utility/CC Mage or a CC Tank [and recently burst mages])

Meta: Following the standard lanes, with current known good picks, or champions you are really confident on.

Off-Meta: Following the standard lanes, with either currently bad picks, or a strange champion for that position but may still work.

Trolling: Not following standard lanes, or picking a champion that CAN NOT work in the lane you take them... without proper co-operation from teammates.

Essentially if its DRASTICALLY different, but your teammates are fine with it its not trolling. But in the Nunu "Supports" case he WAS trolling.

Apparently he basically told his ADC "Take a safe pick im taking smite and counter jungling" and didnt hear objections. It was also the only support strat he did. THIS IS TROLLING AS HIS TEAMMATES DIDNT WANT NON-STANDARD LANES. Thus putting them at a disadvantage, ESPECIALLY if the ADC isnt used and isnt prepared to 1v2.

However say i duod with a friend who went Top. And i get into game and say: "Hey I have a plan. Im duoing with this top, hes going Darius, and im going Blitzcrank. ADC can you pick a safe champion so we can 2v1 top, get first turret, then I'll roam? Jungle you shouldnt really have to worry about top unless you want that First turret gold too, and can you help out our ADC as much as you can?" And if they agree we went non-standard lanes without trolling.

The Nunu example WAS him trolling, although he may have not meant to, he ended up forcing his teammates into a severely off-meta to the point of being troll tactic and as people say, "Held his team hostage"

21 Comments

Breaku2/28/2017, 12:43:57 PM4 votes

By your logic, the first players to take adc out of midlane and into botlane should have been considered trolls

FighterA2362/28/2017, 2:21:20 PM2 votes

Trolling is: In Internet slang, a troll (/ˈtroʊl/, /ˈtrɒl/) is a person who sows discord on the Internet by starting arguments or upsetting people, by posting inflammatory,[1] extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as a newsgroup, forum, chat room, or blog) with the intent of provoking readers into an emotional response[2] or of otherwise disrupting normal, on-topic discussion,[3] often for the troll's amusement.[wiki]

An Internet troll, or simply troll in Internet slang, is someone who posts controversial, inflammatory, irrelevant or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum or chat room, with the primary intent of provoking other users into an emotional response or to generally disrupt normal on-topic discussion. [urban dictionary].

Troll pick is a pick that wants to make ANGRY his teammates. That's it, Sherlock.

Oleandervine2/28/2017, 2:29:35 PM1 votes

The current meta is the 1/1/2+1 Jungle. Anything that isn't this format, is by definition off-meta. So 2/1/2, or 1/2/2, or 1/1/1+2 Jungle, or any other format is off-meta and not trolling. Trolling is deliberate attempts to ruin the game for people. This includes verbal abuse, intentionally feeding, and assisting the enemy team. This does not include an off meta format, nor does it include your ADC getting pissed off because he has to farm under the tower while your Nunu kills all the dragons for your team to benefit from.

Aptest2/28/2017, 3:01:02 PM1 votes

I'll write more later when i am home. I do not accept your idea of what trolling is. trolling is playing with the explicit intent of making your allies annoyed and/or angry and/or upset. if the intent is not to annoy your allies but rather to do do something differently than it is not trolling even if they are annoyed as a consequence.

I.E,

going top with the support and power farming the lane = not trolling. sueciding to the enemy tower and giving the enemy lane a bunch of kills = trolling.

Poske2/28/2017, 3:20:59 PM1 votes

I reached master tier with yasuo ADC XD Being a midlane main

Whats meta?

Not but seriously people think that I am trolling 50% of time when I go yas BOT

SO fk you all meta sheeples who have 0 game knowledge