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Toxicity?

Giant6678··1 votes·736 views

So i just got perma ban last week for toxicity, but when i get the message im confused why. IT shows my urf game where a karthus and gnar run down my lane and int fed a zed for about 7 mins. I didn't cuss at them or say anything super toxic(as i thought) but when i email the support they told me that calling people troll and stupid is very toxic and one of the most extreme toxic they've seen. So community is this really toxic?

Giant6678: im mid Giant6678: get out of my lane Giant6678: report karthus trolling Giant6678: god i hate trolls Giant6678: gg karthus made us lose Giant6678: so usless and trolls Giant6678: i cant wait for u r account to get ban Giant6678: i wish i wouldnt have trolls on my team every urf Giant6678: why Giant6678: would u take that Giant6678: jesus gg Giant6678: gnar steals rift for no reason Giant6678: im glad we lost Giant6678: no but ur retarted Giant6678: and ur stupid Giant6678: trolls after trolls Giant6678: i dont know why so many stupid people play urf Giant6678: karthus steals my lane, gnar steals rift Giant6678: im just glad we lost, these 2 dont deserve the win Giant6678: fuck it Giant6678: let the minions win Giant6678: idc Giant6678: just end this misery pls

Also ive had other 2 week ban and resc before and ive brought my tone of toxic down alot. I use to cuss and be super toxic but this? No where near how i use to be.

16 Comments

Deep Terror Nami2 votes

Alone, sure, this is pretty negative and it wouldn't be unreasonable to chat restrict you so you get the point and cool it down. However, you'd already received multiple punishments for negative behavior prior to this. Punishments escalate up through 4 tiers, increasing each time in an effort to convince a player that their behavior has become a problem and needs to stop.

Basically, you didn't improve your behavior nearly enough after your 2 week ban, instead showing Riot that you weren't taking the warnings seriously and had little intention of stopping. You aren't being judged on how much you've improved comparatively to your past behavior, but on the community's standards which are still a lot higher than this.

Riot doesn't remove legitimate bans for toxic behavior, but if you think you can further improve your behavior you're free to start a new account and start over; if your behavior meets the community standards you won't have to worry about losing that account.

If you ever have issues with toxic players in chat, I highly recommend muting them as soon as they start. You can even mute people before they say anything inflammatory if you're worried they will (such as you made a really bad play and died). Pings are more than enough to communicate with your team most of the time. If you have issues with gameplay offenses such as intentional feeding, know that flaming them won't make them stop, it just adds flaming to the toxicity in the match which sucks for the rest of the players too. Just try to play around them and report it.

Giant66781 votes

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fatherdarius2 votes

I agree, your new terms 'troll' and 'stupid' were certainly LESS toxic. I wouldn't define them as non-toxic though, as it would add negativity to an already negative game (due to the individuals who were intentionally feeding in your lane).

Given that'd you'd already had previous punishments, it sounds as though you were 'skating on thin ice' (if you'll pardon the colloquialism). While your account has been banned (which is most unfortunate) what is doubly unfortunate is that it sounds as though you believed you had sufficiently reformed. Though I wish there was a way you could be granted even further attempts to reform (I have often privately thought a 1 month, 2 month, and 3 month suspension would be ideal - I mean that's an entire fiscal quarter!) from my understanding of Riot's behavior system there is little if any chance of having the ban overturned.

You improved once before (troll/stupid IS an improvement over what you admit you use to type) there is still room for improvement, and now you know. While a harsh lesson, I've no doubt that if you put your effort into it you can reduce your toxicity to zero.

Best of luck, summoner.

Giant66782 votes

Thanks! I will try my best i guess

YokoNomi1 votes

If I were to take your words at face value, yes you look like you're trolling. I can't see what Riot sees, so I have no desire to take your word over theirs. Not only this, but a ban typically roots from more than just one report. Depending on the severity of them.

Giant66781 votes

2 reports, that gnar and karthus, and i troll? How am i trolling? i dont understand the league community some times, i see this and it happens to me way to much. I being the person that gets int fed on and trolled on, Whole enemy team , my team and community: Seems ur here to blame, when i do it to a teammate who deserves it because the way they acted, enemy team, my team, and community: ban his ass, he doesn't deserve to play!

Like what do i do, im always the victim. Muting doesnt work, so obivs this a problem riot needs to take on the player that is doing the trolling not me

fatherdarius1 votes

If the tribunal were still around, I'd vote to punish.

No, I'm not a tween who hit punish on every case for free IP. In fact, when I started the tribunal that program was no longer in effect. I read every case, and dealt based on the merits. The preponderance of evidence indicates you were toxic. In my determination, a punishment was warranted. If you happened to be on your last punishment, then your next sanction was a permaban. While it's unfortunate you have lost your account, I believe anyone (yes, ANYONE) can be redeemed given the proper motivation. I hope you choose to reform, create a new account, and continue to enjoy league of legends while becoming a positive member of the community.

Giant66781 votes

But you didn't even tell me this is toxic or not( which it isn't) Your just telling me oh you wasted over 500 bucks and almost 2 years on this game. Fuck you and have to restart! Do you not get it, riot shouldnt be able to perma ban someone for this. I have gone from my toxicity to this.

Magical Player1 votes

Riot shouldn't be able to run their game as they see fit?

As already mentioned you've gone through the punishment system this is the result you've had a few prior chances to reform you opted to not reform instead went along and continued with your ways

Giant66781 votes

But i was reforming, reform doesn't work instant. 1 day i won't wake up and say oh boy 100% niceness is me today. Riot needs to learn that it takes time for people to reform. real life example is like rehab. People dont just wake up 1 day and say oh im ready to go now. No it takes days,weeks, some times months. I was slowly reforming but riot didn't give me a chance to do anything. They just threw me out of rehab and put me in a mental hospital, say i was 2 crazy for the world.

Magical Player1 votes

{quoted}

But i was reforming, reform doesn't work instant. 1 day i won't wake up and say oh boy 100% niceness is me today. Riot needs to learn that it takes time for people to reform. real life example is like rehab. People dont just wake up 1 day and say oh im ready to go now. No it takes days,weeks, some times months. I was slowly reforming but riot didn't give me a chance to do anything. They just threw me out of rehab and put me in a mental hospital, say i was 2 crazy for the world.

10 day chat ban 25 chat ban 14 day ban theres time to reform you passed those prior to the perma

Giant66781 votes

Chat ban has no affect on people on types of reform, but if you wanted to take that in total thats only 16 days, 1 day each for each chat ban and the 14 day ban reform. This is no way shape or form enough time for a toxic player to reform, and most toxic players get even more toxicer off of chat bans and restriction. It happen to me, after that 14 day ban i was like what the f***, riot can't do this s*** to me, etc, later on the week i told myself to chill out, dont be as super toxic and work on. That week i stop myself so many times of just typing out and being super toxic to my teammates who were int or trolling. So yea i was on the way reforming, i wasn't able to stop myself all the time like i said stupid and troll, but at least save my self from saying way worst. Also when i got that league account ban, i was so enraged!

???????????? DONT DO THIS TO ME RIOT, I WORKED MY A&& OFF NOT BEING TOXIC, AND I DID WHAT YOU SAID, /ignore all, I DID THIS AND I STILL GET BAN????? RIOT U BETTER UNBAN THIS ISNT FAIR, U LITERALLY BAN FOR NO REASON, STOP BEING LIKE THIS, I DID AS U ASKED ME TO, I DIDNT DO ANYTHING WRONG!

This is my first email to riot after my ban, this is me at being super toxic. I've apologize since and i realized a couple of days ago this isn't ok behavior at all and i hate that my toxic lead to more toxic. But like i said this was a mistake, i shouldn't have done this and i've learn the hard way. I hated that i lost money and time on this game thats why i sent that email to riot, but see one little thing can turn a reform person into that quotes i had in the main thread to this. I hope i never get like this on my new account because that is unbelievable behavior

Magical Player1 votes

{quoted}

Chat ban has no affect on people on types of reform, but if you wanted to take that in total thats only 16 days, 1 day each for each chat ban and the 14 day ban reform. This is no way shape or form enough time for a toxic player to reform, and most toxic players get even more toxicer off of chat bans and restriction. It happen to me, after that 14 day ban i was like what the f***, riot can't do this s*** to me, etc, later on the week i told myself to chill out, dont be as super toxic and work on. That week i stop myself so many times of just typing out and being super toxic to my teammates who were int or trolling. So yea i was on the way reforming, i wasn't able to stop myself all the time like i said stupid and troll, but at least save my self from saying way worst. Also when i got that league account ban, i was so enraged!

???????????? DONT DO THIS TO ME RIOT, I WORKED MY A&& OFF NOT BEING TOXIC, AND I DID WHAT YOU SAID, /ignore all, I DID THIS AND I STILL GET BAN????? RIOT U BETTER UNBAN THIS ISNT FAIR, U LITERALLY BAN FOR NO REASON, STOP BEING LIKE THIS, I DID AS U ASKED ME TO, I DIDNT DO ANYTHING WRONG!

This is my first email to riot after my ban, this is me at being super toxic. I've apologize since and i realized a couple of days ago this isn't ok behavior at all and i hate that my toxic lead to more toxic. But like i said this was a mistake, i shouldn't have done this and i've learn the hard way. I hated that i lost money and time on this game thats why i sent that email to riot, but see one little thing can turn a reform person into that quotes i had in the main thread to this. I hope i never get like this on my new account because that is unbelievable behavior

Lets be more generous and say you had at least a month as you were not punished directly after a 10 chat to a 25 chat to a 14 day ban if a player doesn't want to accept that a chat ban is a punishment then thats on them It took 1 chat ban for me to understand the rules

lets say

But if you feel it was unjust please open a support ticket

Giant66781 votes

I mean i agree with most of the community on how there should be more puishnments before a perma like 1 month, 2 month etc but in the end i cant change that, its up to riot if they want to or not. And i dont feel unjust like i said, i learn couple of days ago that i general screwed up, it isnt others fault, it was mine.

fatherdarius1 votes

My apologies.

I found some of the things you typed to be toxic. To wit:

"so usless"[sic] "i cant wait for u r account to get ban" "im glad we lost" "ur retarted"[sic] "and ur stupid" "i dont know why so many stupid people play urf" "im just glad we lost, these 2 dont deserve the win"

Now, other than calling someone 'retarded' (which everyone "I" know finds rather offensive) I would not have reported, or even chosen to punish for any single one of those comments; however, given the totality of my observations regarding your chat, I would find your overall in-game demeanor both negative and toxic, and as I stated above I would choose to punish.

Does that add clarity?

You don't have to agree with my opinion. Yet obviously Riot and/or it's automated system does.

Also, I do not blame you for being frustrated and angry. You have invested time as well as money into your account, and it obviously means a great deal to you if you have been playing for 2 years. As an avid player myself, I would hate to have my account banned. I play with with a friend who trends toward toxicity in his games, and I find I'm usually trying to calm his temper so that he may continue to enjoy the game. He has made improvements over time. My hope is that you, too, will be able to improve your in-game behavior. Should you chose to create a new account I would be more than happy to play relaxed and non-toxic games with you. Feel free to add me, and perhaps we may meet in honor on the fields of justice.

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