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I’ve got a 2 Week Ban Justly But I have a Question

MisomaniacalMage··2 votes·478 views

So I was playing a game with a Rammus who for the most part wouldn't gank me or my teammates lanes. What followed was a gradual escalation of me and my teammates getting frustrated. Basically it ended up with me, mid, and adc thrashing the jungle out the whole game. However what I’m sure got me banned was that after 20 minutes our team was just getting wrecked, I wanted to surrender and adc kept declining and when I would ask her pls she smiley faced which irritated me. Eventually just literally out of anger typed a series of slurs and the word expletive. My intentions weren’t really racial in nature but I’m still at fault for breaking the rule. I’m not trying to defend what I did or get the ban revoked, but my question is, is my account permanently stuck at the pre perma ban tier, or can i eventually get back to a warning free state where I’m not in jeapardy of losing the account for any infraction. Seems suspicious it’s not really that I intend to commit more infractions just a mixture of paranoia and OCD with wanting a clean account. Also don’t know how to post chat logs in here still relatively new.

8 Comments

AeroWaffle6 votes

Yes, you can get back in good standing with the system and your punishment tier will drop.

But you wont know what punishment tier you are on and it takes a lot of good behavior games for it to drop.

Jo0o4 votes

You'll be stuck on thin ice for a while, but you can indeed get back into good standing with a bunch of games played cleanly. It'll likely take several months of steady play.

No need to post your logs, you already identified what caused the ban and there's not much more to discuss there.

YerroFever3 votes

So this info I'm summarizing is coming from red posts and the support site:

The support site says you can get out of the scrutiny period IF you play honorably. You can go down the escalation path so don't fret, but also, don't take this as an excuse to be toxic. This is more of a forgiveness thing in that Riot understands that people have occasional bad days. This isn't a blanket permission to have bad days on a consistent basis.

https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/articles/207489286

Tantram has stated in a post that "on average" a player will take about "3 months" to get out of dishonorable and get into a better standing in this thread here:

https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behavior-moderation/iLcIFjP0-how-permanent-ban-works?comment=000e

You may be dishonorable for more time or for less. It is entirely up to you and how you behave in games.

There have been several posts about this but when IFS checks games that are reported, it grades your game. So for demonstration purposes, I'm going to set an arbitrary scale that may not 100% accurately reflect Riot's scale, but it's just to explain how things go based on what I've read on the forums:

0 = no toxic chat detected. 1 to 2 = slightly toxic, not toxic enough for a chat restriction if it is an isolated incident 3 to 4 = mildly toxic, 10 chat restriction 5 to 6 = pretty toxic, 25 game chat restriction 7 to 8 = toxic, escalation to 14 day temp ban 9 to 10 = incredibly toxic, may result in a permaban

If your games during your reform period are rated by the IFS as 0, you are totally fine. You're on your way to getting back into good standing and on your way to getting your season rewards back.

If your games are rated 1 to 2, even though you won't get a punishment, you are slowing down your honor gain and you are also extending your reform period.

If you get a 3 or higher, you may get a permaban because you just came off of a 14 day ban and your next punishment will be escalated to a permaban.

MisomaniacalMage1 votes

So I’m reading the FAQ on behavior summoners code this stuck out to me. “We have a zero-tolerance policy for extreme negative behavior as well as extremely offensive language and remarks made in game towards other players. Since it is a severe disregard for the Summoner’s Code this sort of behavior can result in skipping to a Two week or Permanent suspension. Suspensions of this degree based on negative behavior will not likely be reduced or removed” This comea right after they say you can improve your account’s status. So is this just saying that it’ll take longer because it sounds like it is to be permanent. With no way to check I doubt I’ll ever know.

YerroFever1 votes

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So I’m reading the FAQ on behavior summoners code this stuck out to me. “We have a zero-tolerance policy for extreme negative behavior as well as extremely offensive language and remarks made in game towards other players. Since it is a severe disregard for the Summoner’s Code this sort of behavior can result in skipping to a Two week or Permanent suspension. Suspensions of this degree based on negative behavior will not likely be reduced or removed” This comea right after they say you can improve your account’s status. So is this just saying that it’ll take longer because it sounds like it is to be permanent. With no way to check I doubt I’ll ever know.

You're quoting the section about skipping punishment tiers.

What this section means is that normally if you are toxic in chat, you'll start off with getting a 10 game chat restriction, then if you continue to be toxic, you'll get upped and go into a 25 game chat restriction, and if you still continue to be toxic, you'll get a 14 day ban, and after that if you still haven't stopped being toxic, you'll get a permaban. Normally, you start at the low level punishments and work your way up to the big punishments.

The skipping punishment tiers is about first time usage of zero tolerance policy stuff. Zero Tolerance policy includes things like homophobic language, racist language, telling someone to kill themselves, etc... This means that if you use that kind of language, you'll skip the 10 and 25 game chat restrictions and go right into a 14 day temp ban. If they deem the usage of the language so offensive that they do not believe you could reform, then rather than doing a 14 day temp ban, they will permaban you.

So, based on what you said in your OP,

Eventually just literally out of anger typed a series of slurs and the word expletive. My intentions weren’t really racial in nature but I’m still at fault for breaking the rule.

You had the escalation punishment where you skipped 10 game and 25 game chat restrictions and said zero tolerance policy words to someone, which is why you are at your current 14 day temp ban.

If you go back up one section,

BUT WHAT IF I REFORM? IS IT POSSIBLE TO GO DOWN THE ESCALATION PATH? Yes! Players who show consistent reform or show positive behavior in their games will help heal their accounts reputation.

That is still true and has been confirmed by Tantram. You can get back into good standing but you have to play clean games, and by clean I mean rated at 0 toxicity.

MisomaniacalMage1 votes

Thanks you’ve been really helpful. I’m just vaguely paranoid now that some incident will occur where I get reported now and I get permabanned I’ve sunk a good bit of money in this account.

The Cream Reaper1 votes

Also don’t know how to post chat logs in here still relatively new.

there's a blue "copy chat" to the top right of your in-client chat log, just below the notification text

click it then paste it in here

MisomaniacalMage1 votes

I will do it thanks it’ll have to be this afternoon when I have access to my computer.

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