Player mute instead of player ban. Thoughts?

Angry4YearOId·9/8/2018, 10:30:44 AM·3 votes·2,642 views

With the permaban experiment going on maybe riot will start to listen? Maybe they’ll actually try something suggested by the player base (hopefully)

Feel like with all the people complaining about the system and all the WTF moments people share about bans, Riot would try to find a reformed and better way to deal with “toxic” players.

Personally I think peoples issue with banned accounts is partially the money, partially all their hard earned rewards. However, mainly it’s the friends list they lose. A lot of people lose some really good friends and I don’t think that’s fair at all.

I think a perma mute chat/ping is much fairer for both the individual and the community as a whole. But people can share their thoughts~

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CharDeeMcDenniz9/8/2018, 10:43:53 AM8 votes

RIOT tried long term muting already in season 3-4 i think

it failed miserably bc the perma-muted people just started in-game trolling

Umbral Regent9/8/2018, 10:40:52 AM5 votes

First thing's first, Wookieecookie has stated that with their experiment, they stress that the possibility of policy being changed or further experiments being run is slim, even with favorable results. Even still, I don't imagine they'd take on ideas from the list of "stuff that's proven horribly ineffective in the past" to see about reimplementing them.

Second; they've already tried what amounted to permanent chat restrictions in the past. They had indefinitely scaling chat restrictions at one point, and they found that players under longer-duration CR's would just turn to trolling, griefing, and intentionally feeding to take out their frustrations on their teammates - removing their ability to chat didn't remove their ability to be toxic, it only narrowed down the avenues they could take to do it.

Personally I think peoples issue with banned accounts is partially the money, partially all their hard earned rewards. However, mainly it’s the friends list they lose. A lot of people lose some really good friends and I don’t think that’s fair at all.

I mean, they're given ample opportunities to reform (standard punishment path is 10-game CR, 25-game CR, 14-day ban, then a permaban), and each time they're warned the punishments are only going to get more severe - with the 14-day ban message straight up telling them that the next punishment will be a permanent one.

If they really cared about that friends list or the money they put into that account, they'd take the hint and shape up at the first chat restriction, and not have to be warned that the next punishment will be a permaban - let alone actually getting permabanned.

It's not fair to Riot or other players when someone decides to ignore the rules and the punishments and warnings for breaking them. So, my question is, why should Riot be fair to them? It isn't a one-way street, there's gotta be some concession on the side of the player if Riot's going to be fair.

HalcyonDweller9/9/2018, 3:22:42 AM3 votes

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Feel like with all the people complaining about the system and all the WTF moments people share about bans, Riot would try to find a reformed and better way to deal with “toxic” players.

It's not Riot's fault that players are having WTF moments, those players just don't listen when they get their warning punishments, so it ends up reaching a permaban.

There are things I'd change about the current system to make sure it minimized chances for confusion, but it's really not Riot's fault that players who get permabanned freak out and/or think that they didn't deserve it.

Uriel9/8/2018, 10:38:27 AM2 votes

It's called Chat Restriction.

Also, never mute pings. Pings are too important for the game communication.

Quinzley9/8/2018, 11:42:23 AM1 votes

They could just make a system that isn't a glorified chat filter. It's also a pretty terrible filter that can be easily avoided.

Angry4YearOId9/9/2018, 11:48:14 AM1 votes

Feel like people are thinking on the surface of things. Some people go through points in their lives where things are rough and it’ll affect other things. And I don’t think Riot really goes base by base and considers those people when they reach out and doesn’t look at their accounts as a whole and that history of good behavior. Even if they don’t reform the whole system, I feel like they should not assume the worst in people and maybe place those who reach out about real issues a chance over a probation period.

Like let’s say you have an account for 3-4 years or something, suddenly someone close to you dies and you lose your job or you’re in some bad accident that’s left you paralyzed. You’re depressed and you can’t control your attitude, so for a block of time you just become a toxic person and before you know it you get banned. That just feels even worse and builds on the already huge mount of crap.

Another example, I have a friend with bipolar disorder who can’t control his fits. As a result he’s been banned 2-3 times. Does riot consider people with mental disorders and try to work something out with them? No. And I think my friend is one of the kindest and honest people I’ve ever met, and it hurts to know that he feels he can never buy skins or try for rewards out of fear it’ll all go to waste.

Feel like riot just needs to be more thoughtful and considerate. Having no tolerance and no empathy is at a minimum where they need to reform. (Maybe probation after 3-6mo? Idk trying to compromise here)

Beyond T Wall9/9/2018, 1:57:13 PM1 votes

I agree with your idea because i had that thought myself.As you see you got 2 chances...The one is the suspension and the other the perma.Riot did this idea but players starting trolling...but if one player is trolling more peaple will report him and he will take perma ban anyway,but peaple who are flaming,they are doing it because or they are flamed by someone else or they are making a really good score so theres no chance of trolling in feature games