14 day suspension for calling people names?

qqmoarploxify·3/30/2019, 2:33:13 AM·1 votes·2,136 views

The fk is the point of a chat filter if I can't openly call people fa%$ots and c$nts when they openly troll the game?

You're jungle takes flash ignite and comes to lane and I can't flame that dude? This games dumb as hell.

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ModPrandine3/30/2019, 2:57:43 AM7 votes

The chat filter is there for people who would prefer not to see mature language in the game. It is not there so you can verbally abuse and harass others whenever you feel like it. We all agree trolls are annoying and frustrating to deal with, but flaming them only serves to fuel their desire for trolling even more, not to mention takes time away from the game itself as well as creates a negative environment for the other players in the game and ultimately accomplishes nothing important in the end. Though I know it's hard to do at times, don't stoop to their level and they'll fall alone if that makes sense.

For a more in-depth discussion of sorts, here's a passage from Ulanopo’s Knowledge Base:

“People who report are simply being oversensitive. The mute button exists for a reason.”

Let’s start with the Riot quote on this (link (http://forums.na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=30696571#post30696571)):

Why is verbal abuse punishable if there is a mute button/language filter? Players shouldn’t need to rely on features like the mute button or language filter to engage with other players in positive ways. When a player verbally abuses another player and forces him to use the mute button, they have already created a negative experience for that player.

Simply put, Riot says no. You can scream and cry all you want, but it is their house and their rules.

With that out of the way, I think the topic deserves some further discussion. The theory is that, if people resolved to care less, then they would be happier. I often refer to this as ”Argument from Stoicism” and I think it is a fairly weak philosophy because it places the burden on the person being expected to endure the behavior rather than the person exhibiting the behavior. “You should be able to handle it” is just a flimsy excuse for being a bully or a jerk. I have to be the bigger man so that you can do whatever you want? That hardly seems fair.

There is also the issue of how I spend my limited free time. Like most people, I am constantly required to make value judgments between the different forms of entertainment that are available to me and, let's be honest, we live in an age of nearly limitless entertainment options. If I'm having a bad day in League, I can just fire up Steam and play a whole bunch of games that don't require me to put up with someone's BS.

This is not an issue of weakness or thin-skin; it's a question of choosing activities that don't leave me feeling frustrated and angry. Too many of those experiences and I'll just find something else to do. Riot knows this.

Also from Ulanopo's Knowledge Base:

“I should be allowed to speak however I like to people who started it or are griefing me.” “I was provoked or taunted. I should be allowed to defend myself.” “Why did you vote to punish me when others were behaving worse?”

You should know that Riot specifically instructs jurors to ignore most of the conduct of people in a case other than the accused. The reason for this is rather simple: rather than one person causing trouble, you now have two – or more. In my more cynical moments, I have phrased it thus:

Timmy, Tommy and Sarah are trapped in an elevator. Timmy loses his temper and soils himself. Tommy gets angry at the smell and decides to retaliate by soiling himself. Now Sarah is trapped with two smelly idiots. Don’t be Timmy or Tommy. Stop ****ing your pants.

An informal poll of the Tribunal regulars shows that most jurors are willing to excuse a certain amount of response to someone who is attacking you, but that it isn’t considered an excuse for you to become toxic in response. You get MAYBE one or two lines of response. Anything more than that and you’re part of the problem.

From Lyte (link (http://forums.na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=27540071#post27540071)):

We strongly believe that it is not OK to retaliate. If a player refuses to cooperate and says something negative, then players should ignore the player and report them after the game. Players can ignore or mute players by pressing the “Mute” button on the Scoreboard [when you hit TAB] in the game.

Emphasis mine.

Telephone Booth3/30/2019, 2:42:49 AM3 votes

Lol because you dont get to decide the parameters. If you got a bad laner, and you decide theyre "trolling", I (and im sure many others) dont want you to express your childish rage in chat and derail the whole fucking team cuz youre too emotional. Like oh yay, not only do i have a bad midlaner, now our jungle is spending his time focusing on their mistakes and typing bullshit, which means this midlaner whos probably already tilted, is probably gonna take offense, retaliate through chat, OR even worse, retaliate by actually trolling you. I just feel like a lot of the time, flaming someone seals the deal on a loss. Its not like I'm offended by your common insults, I just don't want some child raging in chat, basically helping to ensure we lose.

Now you may say, "im talking about trolls who obviously intent feed". But, Riot cant go through every replay to decide whether the flame was justified, and they damn well cant give players the power to decide whether someone is trolling or not. Ive seen too many not-trolls be accused of trolling to know that would just be dumb.

Celestial Lion123/30/2019, 2:36:57 AM3 votes

"We’ve all had tough games where we fell behind, got camped super hard or missed an easy smite, only to get flamed in chat. Avoid making others feel that same way and report the ones who do."

Straight from the summoner's code, plain and simple if you got suspended for breaking the rules that is your own damn fault, it is a 100 times easier to ignore someone and not say anything in chat than it is to hit enter and flame.

R107 Games3/30/2019, 2:50:17 AM2 votes

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The fk is the point of a chat filter if I can't openly call people fa%$ots and c$nts when they openly troll the game?

Now that I think about it; If the IFS is effective at detecting zero tolerance words/phrases, why not have a filter for those words/phrases to players who don't want to hear it?

Zombie Gerbil3/30/2019, 4:23:04 AM2 votes

The point is that you follow what you agreed to before you downloaded this game. The better question is, do you randomly sign contracts, agreements blindly before reading them?

Arcade Lulu3/30/2019, 8:35:29 AM2 votes

You agreed to the rules when you made your account

Accept it

qqmoarploxify3/30/2019, 2:39:09 AM1 votes

Sorry this games for babies who can't handle bad words, god all you whiny biches can't even handle some bad words it really is quite sad.

RobTheTank3/30/2019, 3:43:34 AM1 votes

I think one of the other reasons flaming and trolling are banned is because if a player's words cause another player to get REALLY upset to the point of doing real life harm to themselves and / or others ultimately Riot Games could be held responsible as it was their servers and their program which transmitted the messages. I might be wrong but I think the Internet has changed from Safe Harbor laws so that now ISPs and game companies CAN be held responsible for the actions of their users.