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It's okay to call other players "Ni**ers"?

Makroh··3 votes·540 views

Alright so I got a 10-game chat suspension and dropped an honor level after this Ryze game I had where the guy that reported me called me a "%%%%%%" in lobby and flamed me all game. Now I normally /mute all, and if I do say something in chat it's typically "gj" or "nice!" or "well done", I climbed to Honor 4 pretty quickly and consider myself a positive person overall, as my record has shown: I've played league for a very long time and this is the first time I've had any kind of punishment.

So, to start off, at the beginning of the game this 2-3 man premade starts flaming me and says "Ryze we don't like you so we're not gonna help you" then they begin to troll me and flame me. They call me a "%%%%%%" and tell me that I'm "bad" and all of that fun stuff. So the point of this thread is, why am I the only one being punished when I didn't start this and was just defending myself? Now, I do believe I could have handled the situation better. I could have /muted them but this time I did not and I fell into their trap. I did say things that I can see as being toxic (I called one of them a "shitbag"), but I did so under certain circumstances and I was just defending myself. (being ganged up on and flamed by 3 people that set out to make the game a bad experience for others)

If there are the chat/lobby logs of this game please take a moment to look at them and review this case. Thank you for your time.

12 Comments

XxDRAGONsAK47xX1 votes

Riot doesn't care.

I got banned for telling someone who was being toxic all game. "Shut the fuck up, its a game. No one cares about how fucking good you are. Ass." (After 20 minutes of Ahri spamming all chat about how bad we were compared to her i gave up)

Got a nice 14 day suspension. (Had a chat suspension 4 months prior)

Chermorg1 votes

You want to discuss your suspension, please make a thread and post your logs.

Don't hijack others' threads for your own means.

XxDRAGONsAK47xX1 votes

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Why would I want to discuss a 2 month old suspension...?

I'm sympathizing with him. How the living hell is this hijacking?

Chermorg2 votes

You sympathized with him by posting about your own suspension and discussing it.

You commented nothing on his actual post other than to state "Riot doesn't care", but not providing any evidence to support that claim, other than your one suspension for which you most likely are not being fully truthful (there must've been more in the logs).

XxDRAGONsAK47xX1 votes

Whatever kid.

GO on thinking whatever you feel like

Chermorg1 votes

Riot cares.

The problem is that everyone gets punished for fighting with each other as you describe. You could've easily muted them and moved on, like you understand.

However, you instead chose to turn 2-3 people flaming into that plus one more. There's no reason to let yourself get into this situation - just mute and move on, and report after the game.

Makroh1 votes

The guys making the racist comments, starting the flame and toxicity, etc did not get punished.

I do think riot cares, at least I hope they do. I think me getting a chat restriction is fair because I could have handled the situation better. What I do not think is fair is that I'm being punished but the guys calling me a "ni99er" and flaming me are not.

Chermorg1 votes

You do not always get notified when they get punished. They may have been issued a chat restriction, they may not have been punished yet (but had a black mark put on their account), etc. Or, you could just not have been the only one to report them, and thus someone else got the notification and not you.

Bottom line is there's no way for you to know certainly if they got punished or not.

SEKAI1 votes

Did you type that word out as part of your replies to them? The automated system seems to not be too context sensitive and just string-checks for the very most part, so you will get banned for things like repeating words and phrases (by that I mean the no-no ones) and not just actually using them.

There was a thread about it some time earlier, where someone was banned because they were called a ni99er which they defended themselves while quoting the attacker, and that triggered the ban. The ban was lifted shortly after.

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If however, you were simply going overboard while defending yourself, do note: Riot has a anti-"fight fire with fire" policy in place. Because according to Riot's ideal, allowing toxicity to respond to toxicity poses some moral concerns whereby it means certain toxicity is acceptable; but Riot wants to say "all toxicity are bad, period." That and also, because you're defending yourself from a threat that while does affect you, it ultimately can not mortally harm you or posing the threat of it (unless things like death threats or SWAT'ing threats etc, which outside of reports you would also need to consult Riot staff with this through a support ticket, and depending on the severity police might even be called). This means one is okay to defend themselves when assaulted verbally in League, but one is not okay to also attack someone back while defending themselves in general.

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That said, you can always send in a support ticket to enquire and dispute the legitimacy of your ban. As long as you remain civil, the case won't just be thrown out of the window, and you guys would go through exactly why you were banned and whether or not it is possible to be lifted due to either a lack of convincing argument for the ban or a larger amount of supporting argument that you do not indeed deserve it.

Makroh1 votes

I don't believe I quoted them back using the word, but after taking 15 minutes of verbal abuse I made the mistake of replying to it instead of muting in the first place. This is my first punishment ever, and I've played over 5,000 games.

I'm probably one of the friendliest people you'll meet in-game, so it just came to me as a shock that I was chat-restricted suddenly over something so childish. Literally being trolled by 3 people and I'm the one that gets punished but they get off scott-free after making racist comments, flaming in all-chat, etc (I never even replied to the all-chat flame, even the enemy team agreed that my team was being overly toxic in post-game lobby. They were spamming racist things in lobby as well)

Is there a way for me to get chat/lobby logs to show you guys what they were saying?

SEKAI1 votes

{quoted}

Is there a way for me to get chat/lobby logs to show you guys what they were saying?

There is not.

You can however, discuss this with Riot through a support ticket and go through this with them. They can see the whole chatlog too I think, though it's not likely they will give them to you but they probably will quote or mention some of them when talking to you if need to.

GreatWhiteNorth1 votes

Maybe under your rock, but out here in the real world people have standards.

I only read the title.

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