Do supports notice toxicity more?

Skorch··5 votes·1,035 views

Like seriously? I am basically a Fill main and when i am support my teams usually seem to be way more toxic and less focused then when im mid or whatever.

Last game i serisouly had to say "I appologize for my teams stupid remarks no matter who wins this was a pretty GG"

I shouldnt have to do that but my team was flaming SO HARD. Luckily it was meant with gratitude and the vayne sounded like she felt kinda bad for flaming

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IA9hRfpP5q4 votes

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And you've never even backed once. Riot needs to destroy the slavestone.

Skorch1 votes

Not even to supports though just in general my team is more toxic to eachother and the enemy when im on support.

(Yes i copied this comment from another comment on this thread as the comments im responding to are very similar)

IcyPepper1 votes

WHERE'S YOUR SIGHTSTONE

maybe uses their trinket five times in a match

Big Lincoln3 votes

supports are professional victims

GuildedEnd1 votes

I am a support main since season 6 and i noticed that at first. Whenever you're not support you tend to focus on how to get ahead, watching the opponents in lane and cs to the best of your ability with so much more, but with support you have a bit more time to see around and look at minimap and look at chat, to which i've noticed my team being more talkative than usual where i just /mute them in game when they start talking a lot. It is very distracting and honestly they don't understand what they are probably doing adding in more negativity to the game because the jungler refuses to gank their lane, someone doesn't ping mia or doesn't follow, etc. That is why you're noticing it now.

Skorch1 votes

I had a yasuo say to out jg (albiet his presence was garbage the whole game) to "actually kys irl so i dont have to play with you again"

Damagefox1 votes

I agree, I tend to play more from the minimap than from the actual game itself. Like I will use the game for skillshots but I watch the minimap for movement patterns, enemy dissappearing and reappearing. And yet, when I ping, its dismissed, when I make a point/observation, its ignored. I am told how I am not playing a "real role" because I am 0/2/28 and so objviously I suck at the game. I could ping dragon, see the enemy taking it. Give my team the heads up and they will ignore me, then later tell me how USELESS I am because I do nothing for the team. (I am mastery 6 soraka btw). Support is treated like a lane punching bag. All because it isnt a "Kill-focused" role

Skorch1 votes

Honestly lately i have seen supports flaming the team WAY MORE. And not just "Why didnt you ppl listen to me" flat out "MY TEAM IS USELESS AND MY EZREAL IS MISSING Qs AND MY TOP LANE FARMS LIKE SHIT"

This Is Your Dad1 votes

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Honestly lately i have seen supports flaming the team WAY MORE. And not just "Why didnt you ppl listen to me" flat out "MY TEAM IS USELESS AND MY EZREAL IS MISSING Qs AND MY TOP LANE FARMS LIKE SHIT"

Probably because A) they may have been autofilled support and think they can do better or B) they feel like they can't control the game as a support with damage or utility because they find utility wasted on people that won't use it.

Skorch1 votes

My response is A) ive seen this over the last half season or so not just season 7 and B) that has always been the case why are they more toxic NOW?

This Is Your Dad1 votes

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My response is A) ive seen this over the last half season or so not just season 7 and B) that has always been the case why are they more toxic NOW?

I think it's autofill -.-

Skorch1 votes

As i said i was a fill main i dont GET autofilled, but when im not queuing AS fill and I DO get autofilled to support im usually pretty chill about it and i have found no ACTUAL TROLLS/TOXIC PEOPLE that got autofilled. But maybe im just lucky and someone who doesnt troll because they actually WANT to climb.

Damagefox1 votes

Its this attittude that everyone is a "world champ", everyone is perfect, everyone is OP. People let it go to thier heads and think they are better than everyone else on thier team. Jungle and Support are usually the ones to get the most abuse. I can ping an incoming gank and get ignored, I can ask why they didnt back and get "stfu u have no kills" as a 'reason' for why my warning was ignored. And yet if I take a kill, Its instantly "OMG REPORT my SUPPORT. Taking My Kills" when I get a kill after adc is back at base. And been told how playing support isnt a "real role" so apparently that means my observations, my advice, my warnings. Arent worth listening to. Why? because my role isnt focused on "who has most kills" but on keeping my team ALIVE.

Lost count how many times my adcs will flip out and degrade me, tell me how "useless/trash" i am. And how "i dont need a support, I can win lane on my own" yet as soon as I call thier bluff and leave to go support Mid/top. I watch adc die Almost IMMEDIATELY. And then get to see "OMG Report my troll Supp, Abandoning lane and not performing thier role" What happened? thought the adc didnt "need a useless/trash support"?

Skorch1 votes

Again though ive been seeing that attitude on support more than most roles right now. I mean i also have encountered VERY FEW of those stereotypical flamers you hear about all the time that just flame everyone. Most people i Support are pretty chill

EDIT: oh and the blame game goes like this ADC you blame support as thats the person in your lane with you so thats why you are dying. Support to bring heat off yourself you blame the jungler and their presence. Jungle also is simultaneously getting blamed by mid and top so he just blames everyone.

Master this and you will become a master of league of legends

This Is Your Dad1 votes

Rito needs to make sightstone cheaper. Like make the support gold item come with a ward, then upgrade for the second ward and so on. Also if you play a tanky support and your adc does bad you'll get flamed after he goes 0/12, if your adc was bad but you went ap carry support your adc will flame you for taking his carry role soooo. Idk. You also have to duo lane, makes chat more noticeable for me because I use it to coordinate intel.

Kei1431 votes

If I deem the adc to suck (normally you can tell from the first 5 mins), then I'll start taking CS and hard carrying from the support role.

This Is Your Dad1 votes

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If I deem the adc to suck (normally you can tell from the first 5 mins), then I'll start taking CS and hard carrying from the support role.

When I'm forced to adc i suck for the first 10 minutes then get more confident as I build up. Probably because I let items do the work for me. Which is why I prefer supporting over adc.

grug1 votes

here's another for you

3 CHARGES WHY AREN'T U WARDING,

BACKING WITH 3 WARDS????

Skorch1 votes

Not even to supports though just in general my team is more toxic to eachother and the enemy when im on support.

dont trust girls1 votes

This is my breakdown of why supports can seem to notice toxicity more --> On Summoners Rift we have 5 unique positions that we can choose to play, however bot lane is a really abysmal lane right now and adds less effect the the game overall *What I mean is that over 100 games supports with an ADC specifically will be less Impactful in the current state of season 7

Why does that matter?

  • Well the answer is that if you're playing a role that's not support you have control of the damage aspect of the game which matters much more in the lane phase than the vision of the aspect of the game in terms of objective control.

If you are good at a solo lane or even especially jungle then one of the other lanes being bad or having a rough lane will hurt the team moral less

If you notice players being more toxic in a game when you're playing support_**, maybe it's because you outperform the average player in solo lanes and that makes the team moral better? **_

  • Supports, in general, have less mechanics and more macro decisions to make than others might - in my opinion. This means you're watching the enemies and your teammates for (hopefully) useful information that can turn a lane and maybe the game. In doing so you tend to look at chat for slightly useful things they might be saying - in doing so you can notice toxicity more as well That's what I think, hope it helps! [slayer-jinx-catface]
Oleandervine1 votes

Supports don't notice toxicity more, but being a support does in fact indirectly lead to toxicity elsewhere, in some respect. Here's why. You have 5 roles, 4 of which people believe are the hardcore "omg I have to kill everything to win or I lose game ggff@20." Supports generally don't fall into this mindset because they help the team by offering vision and setting up and engaging to speed the ADC along. They play more carefully and sometimes passively, and their general risk as compared to other lanes is a little lower because they always have back up, and their death does not mean a distinct lane advantage for the enemy in a lot of cases. So with that information, this can generally upset other roles when they die, because their disadvantage of being dead is felt a little more than when the support ends up dead. Jungler loses map pressure and risks getting counter-jungled. Top, Mid, and Bot lose CS and also can give up bounty gold if they've got kills. This kind of temporary setback can cause people to tilt, and thus, become toxic if it becomes a thing. This is why playing as a support leads to more chances to encounter toxicity in other lanes, as there are now 4/5 chances to encounter players who might tilt off the planet and start raging. But if, say, you decide to play mid, and you know you don't tilt or get toxic, this means that you will generally now have a 3/5 chance to bump into other toxic players, because supports don't typically have the self-perceived stress and pressure on them that will cause them to become toxic. So yeah, that's my thoughts on the matter.

Worst Kench NA1 votes

I've been noticing that junglers get a hell of a lot more abuse than anyone else.

Telephone Booth1 votes

Meh. I notice toxicity when it's there no matter what role I'm playing.

BlackLion13371 votes

Yeah in my opinion supports are the ones who get the most hate besides junglers. At least that's how it is in my games.

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