Shall I be Punished for Being Abused?

73150893_DEL·Jan 5, 2016·2 votes·953 views

Hello Everyone..

I am "new" to League of Legends, having just started to play over the Christmas break.

While I am enjoying the experience in general, there is a situation that i am wondering how to best deal with.

The situation is that during a game, if a person is abusive to me and continues to swear, shout and type derogatory comments, in which the gaming environment has become one where I cannot stay (since to stay would allow myself to be abused further), the fact is that I am the one who is punished for being abused.

Based on what i have seen and read, the solution is that i should sit on the screen and finish the game, while the abuse and poor language continues being exposed to myself and (more importantly my son who is playing along with me) and then leave a "comment afterwards"? That neither indicates that this abuse was dealt with nor logged.

In fact, the reality is that if I dont sit and endure this 45 minutes of abuse, then I myself am penalized.

While I do like your game, the fact is that i wont sit in a game to be abused and i think that perhaps some "investigation" in to why a person is leaving (perhaps a checkbox to say "Leaving due to deteriorating environment" or something similar ) since currently, the Automatic Dropping of Queue for leaving takes a simplistic approach to dealing with Leaving and there are reason behind.

Or perhaps the TOU and the gaming community says "Nope - sorry, you stay and take the abusive behaviour and thats that" in which case, thanks for letting us know and we will look for entertainment elsehwere. Seems a shame to punish people for leaving an abusive situation without any method of discourse of defense.

BR/ Z

35 Comments

KingWanahakalugiJan 5, 20167 votes

It is expected that you finish the game, and leaving is not acceptable in any case. You do not have to continue to take abuse while you play the game. Simply hit enter and type "/mute all" in the chat box. That will stop abusive chat from your teammates and theirs. You can also mute selective abusive players in game by pressing tab in game and clicking the sound box near the champion portrait to mute that individual person. It is a practice of some people to mute everyone before the game even starts to keep people from getting into their head. Reporting players does help weed them out of the community. Read some of this board you will see that toxic players are being removed slowly, but surely. I hope you and your son continue to play this game because it is a fun game, and there are still good people in the community.

Have a Nice Day [slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

73150893_DELJan 5, 20161 votes

Hello.

Thank you for your response. From what i understand, you are saying that your community condones this abuse to continue and that i should endure 1 hour of this (at the option of having to mute everyone). Sadly, this was what i did expect your response to be and we will probably not continue since we cant support a community that puts the "playing" of a game over the stopping of abusive behaviour.

I have been doing some more reading since this post, and it seems that this is not the first time this has been brought up and in fact, your group has made the decision that dealing with the situation in a blind manner, where the person abused has not recourse nor finds out what was done (other than a checkbox) is available.

Since this is your company policy and a "mute all" puts the onus on the person being abused to avoid it (rather than on the community to put a stop to this abuse and bullying), my children will not be playing this game. I would suggest that your company take a hard look at what the "point" of the group based game is and re-evaluate whether or not the continuation of a game where one is abused so the "rest" (including the person committing the offense) continues to enjoy the benefits of that person being there, at the detriment of allowing this abuse to continue..

As i stated, seems to me there should be a way to say " Sorry - this game environment has turned nasty - since a mute all means that i am deprived of a feature in the game - why? - cause someone else is not following the rules - again - im punished for others behaviour no?".

Thanks for your response, sadly, its a poor one that puts the playing of the game over the protecting people.. poor form in my opinion, but just an opinion.

PROJECT FizzJan 5, 20161 votes

We don't condone, we just...... Can't fully stop it.

Edit: also, you can mute just the one. Hold tab, and the view of the game is pulled up. Find the person who is bothering you. There should be a small button that lets you mute ONE person. :3

KingWanahakalugiJan 5, 20163 votes

You should not be subject to abuse by another player, however, you are also punishing the other players of your game by excusing yourself. The mute button is meant to lead to neutrality long enough for you to finish the game. People that have no problem with removing themselves from the chat feature of the game are then punished to play an incomplete game. Riot works hard trying to remove poor behavior as best they can. They have progressive punishments for people with poor behavior. If the behavior is extremely poor, players can escalate to higher tiers of punishment up to a Permanent Ban from play. Riot's system is working in such a way that many gaming companies are studying and modeling their systems after what Riot currently has implemented. You are entitled to your opinion, but I do urge you to consider something:

Is your leaving unfair to ALL the other players who now have to play an incomplete game whether they were negative to you or not?

You have the option to stop your abuse in game by muting individual players still giving you access to the chat feature with your team. They can still read what you write, but you don't have to see what they say back. Riot does have a policy to protect the player, but they are not protecting 8 of the players if they allowed you to leave freely. (assuming only 1 is toxic)

KingWanahakalugi

LostFr0stJan 5, 20161 votes

Deleted a post; replied to you instead of the OP.

-LostFr0st

KingWanahakalugiJan 5, 20162 votes

No problem man.

BarkhoofJan 5, 20162 votes

I'm curious what recourse you would suggest, short of muting the individual - there are also language filters that you can enable to at least hide some key derogatory words. Since you started during Christmas, you might be unaware that there are pings - nonverbal announcements via the minimap - that still occur if someone is muted. These provide a lot of game-specific info that you can rely on. The fact is, chat with specific individuals on your team is one facet of the game but not a critical one, especially if you're playing with your son in-game.

I've also seen people respond to negativity with positive sarcasm - "Thank you!" or "Noted" - which sometimes alleviates the situation. Not that it calms the negative person but it shows that their badgering isn't going to get to you and, as such, they generally stop. I'm sure as a father/mother, you can use certain situations as teaching material ("We never respond to negativity with negativity"). I should also say, if you're worried about exposing your son to the negativity and speech you saw in games, you should take a step back and ask whether your son should be playing this (or many other on-line games, where similar mannerisms occur) at this present age.

At the end of the day, are you enjoying the game-play? Good. Play and mute someone when you feel as though they don't add to the conversation. Is the game-play meh and you're worried about the community? Take a step back and re-evaluate whether this is the game you'd like to invest in.

KingWanahakalugiJan 5, 20162 votes

Zaletta,

After reflecting, I did want to say a few more things about the community:

You and your children are currently in a difficult position.

The low level experience in the game is currently the worst sector of the entire game experience. Many of the toxic players that have had main accounts banned from the game land there and will "smurf". As they level up, their behavior (sometimes) does not improve and they often find themselves having that account removed from the game via the reporting system as well. Riot has mentioned multiple times that they are diligently working to improved the new player experience, but they are not directly sure how to approach it properly.

It does get better.

As these toxic players are removed during the leveling process, the community moves toward a more neutral atmosphere. There will still be games where someone may just be having a bad day, but if he is not normally a toxic player he won't be punished too harshly. Every day more and more toxic players are being removed from the community.

I have played for over 3 years now, and since they made improvements in the reporting system over the years, I have noticed a decrease in the amount of toxicity. There were some very bad days back then, where you couldn't get a non toxic team all day, but I find myself in more and more games where no one is toxic or rages. I see more games where people are genuinely there just to have fun. Again, I hope you can find it in yourself to persevere through this struggle of the player experience, but whatever your decision is, I don't want you to think that the entire Riot community is bad, nor are the taking those who are lightly.

Again, have a nice day.

KingWanahakalugi

The GovernerJan 5, 20166 votes

Thank you for your comment. I sympathize with your situation but I have a few points to make:

1.If someone is abusive to you, use the "mute" button associated with the abuser(s) in the scoreboard to mute them instantly. Report them afterwards. 2.Leaving a match in any circumstances except for emergencies is not okay, because you are putting your team under heavy disadvantage against the enemy team. It is an unfun experience for either side, especially if you are playing in a ranked game and decide to leave for whatever reasons. 3.Riot is very vague in terms of whether how many valid reports are needed to punish a person (according to Riot it varies based on the offences as well), but it goes like this:

Automated warnings after you get reported consecutively for a number of times in recent matches. This type of warnings bears no consequences if the reports are false.
Chat restrictions
14-day bans
Permanent bans

Anyways, you should know that a valid report is actually taken into account by Riot's feedback system, even though it doesn't seem to provoke any meaningful consequences. A number of valid reports will always trigger punishments.

73150893_DELJan 5, 20162 votes

hey there.

thanks - but the issue is "a number of valid reports' _ again, we allow abuse to continue and let abuser play without recourse until a "certain number" has been hit??? wow..

The GovernerJan 5, 20163 votes

There isn't any specific number. In fact there is no official number. Riot has stated openly on several occasions that if the offence is severe enough the player will be punished in higher priority than other players, jumping straight to 14-day bans or permanent bans even.

No one is condoning this type of behaviours. We as the community loathe them as much as you and your son do, but you have to consider the fact some offenders are not repeated offenders and was "flaming" (the "slang" for verbal abuse in gaming communities) due to suffering bad mood or merely having a bad day. Do you want Riot to punish these people harshly and proactively for their single-time offences too? Maybe the abuser you met was among these people.

I am not justifying these behaviours, but you need to understand why Riot doesn't punish players for one-time offences, unless the cases are in the extreme spectrum.

73150893_DELJan 5, 20161 votes

Anyways, you should know that even if the reports do not seem to change anything, a valid report is actually taken into account by Riot's feedback system, even though it doesn't seem to provoke any meaningful consequences. A number of valid reports will always trigger punishments.

Poor compensation to those who have been hurt i would say - and extends the idea that not only do we condone such behaviour, but we protect the people who do it ...

Cheers and thanks! Z

The GovernerJan 5, 20162 votes

I am curious as to what other alternatives you can suggest. Like many others have suggested and implied, the solution of implementing "referee system" into the game is simply not feasible as it is neither financially sustainable nor possible in terms of human resource management to manage such a problem with referees when we have 67 million players and only 2000 Riot employees at hand.

Makior72Jan 5, 20165 votes

Your 11 year old son should not be playing competitive online games period. The toxicity in league is not specific to this game, ANY competitive game will have the type of people you encountered in it.

If you insist that he should play leaguebor games like it with you i urge you to get a 5 man premade together, and have your son mute everyone on the enemy team from the start.

Riot does what they can to combat toxic behavior like what you encountered, but if you retaliate against that same behavior then you can be marked as part of the problem (however in the right you may feel)

The simplest way to stay out of trouble is to realize that if you type something into chat that has no benefit to the game (discussing tactics and the like) then you should absolutely take a second to make sure you are ok hitting then enter button.

The disiplinary system in league is largely automated. A human only reviews a case before bans are issued. Dont get baited into saying something you shouldn't.

AnomanderJan 5, 20164 votes

Mute. Report. Move on.

While the mute button doesn't stop the initial damage that these actions can cause they do prevent further verbal abuse. And should be used liberally.

However you are responsible for your own actions. You choose to afk and leave the game making a bad situation worse for the remaining players. There is no reason outside of REAL LIFE emergencies that justify afking. And emergencies like that should be rare enough that it should not cause you to be punished.

I know that this seems harsh. I know that no one should have to put up with continued abuse. This is why there is a mute button and report feature. The mute button is to protect you from CONTINUED abuse in that game. The report feature is to help prevent them from abusing others in the future. If your leaving and not reporting the player you are causing more people to be harmed.

BenjalingJan 5, 20162 votes

This game has a T rating. If your son is 11 he's too young to be playing it anyways...

SarutobiJan 5, 20161 votes

If someone is being abusive in terms of typing offensive things the best thing you can do is mute and report them afterwards, Why you would leave a game just because of that just seems really childish. Nothing will get done aside from you getting Low Priority Queue, and that person who was toxic would go unpunished because no one will report them, and more than likely report you for leaving the game. We all have to deal with people like this, not only in this game, but in real life. With this being Riot's Game we have to abide by their rules. And while that person is breaking the rules as well, we need to do our part in that if it does happen reporting them will be our best option so that they are more than likely to get ban and either change their way, or not play this game anymore!

73150893_DELJan 5, 20161 votes

I see - so when my 11 year old son is called a ton of curse words, he should just take it- mute them and continue to play?

Im sorry, but if you dont see any issue with this - in that

A) - the abuse is allowed to continue in game and the abuser still gets the benefits of playing - while hurting others. b) - there is no visible recourse to ensuring that the abuser did this.

In fact, you are right - for adults that is fine, however, for children - which is nice and marketed all over the place too - there should be a little more senstivity to the children playing.

I find it interesting that you think that its fine to allow abuse to continue and just "play on".. would that be the same if it was a game with a live referee involved i wonder? For example, FIFA closed games to whole stadiums cause of abuse and racism.. so doesnt seem so childish to stop the game considering some of the language my children have been exposed to - pressing MUTE - is too late! the damage is done - so why would we continue to endorse the abuser by letting them play

Thanks for the eye opener to the community.. i can see its not a safe place for children at all.

TrulyBlandJan 5, 20163 votes

Well, the problem right there is that there can't be a live referee for every game. That's why the system relies on post-game reports. However the system is getting better and better at dealing with extreme cases like I imagine yours to be in a timely fashion. I doubt that person has gone unpunished.

As to whether it's a safe place for children; that depends on your definition of safe. Human individuals are best-case uncontrollable and worst-case unpredictable. If that is enough in your opinion to consider this to not be a safe environment for children, then you're correct. Personally I'd argue that this game could be a good way to teach your child how to maturely react to bullying; specifically online-bullying.

Either way, the bottom line is that this is a team game. And in all team games there's a certain amount of responsibility you have towards your team. This, too, is something that in my opinion should be taught to children. You don't let your entire team down because of what one teammate did to you.

AnomanderJan 5, 20161 votes

Children should not be playing this game without parental consent. Meaning that it is the parents responsibility to monitor the environment the child is playing in. By giving them permission to play you are asserting that they are capable of using the feature of the game and game environment.

This falls on the parent not on the game.

I am a parent. I will not let my children play league till they are 13 and understand the mute and that people who use such language are not worth our time.

Don't try blaming the game for you as the parent allowing your child to play it.

Kei143Jan 5, 20164 votes

Small note for you:

It is the community replying to your responses. The ones in charge (Rioters) have a red name.

And we as a community know it is not a safe place to be for kids. In fact, most online areas (forums, games, chat rooms etc etc) aren't. Though you have a lot of valid points in your posts, you are preaching to the choir and we all want those functions in game. The question is when is Riot going to implement them, and right now they are trying to help remove another bunch of toxicity that happens due to people fighting for champs / roles to play.

On a parenting note, you can't protect them forever, though you can educate them that this kind of behavior is not acceptable and teach them not to be like that. You can also teach them to ignore the abusers (just mentally switch off anything they have to say) or how to stand up for themselves without being swooping down to their level, tell the abusers to stop and that you don't appreciate what they are saying. But keep in mind, verbally abusing them back is not an acceptable behavior and 2 wrongs don't make a right. Just report them to the authorities afterwards.

73150893_DELJan 5, 20161 votes

thanks for you comments and you are right i cant protect them, but i can tell them that if they are in a situation that they are being maltreated to leave..

its just a hard one (if you are a parent, then you know what i mean) when they come back and say "we did what you said, but we are being penalized cause this guy called me a "xyz").

cheers and thanks.. i agree its an difficult issue - perhaps in-game refeerees are an answer.. - the ability to ping a GM or something to say " this is happening right now?!" that of course, is a company decision and becomes a question of whether the profit is more important that the environment they are creating...

Cheers, Z

Kei143Jan 5, 20163 votes

At least when the kid is bullied in real life, they can attempt to stand for themselves infront of the bully. Sadly, you can't do that in game nor over the internet.

If I were able to create something to punch someone over the internet, I would definitely be a gazillionaire within a month.

Someone linked this in another thread: http://recode.net/2015/07/07/doing-something-about-the-impossible-problem-of-abuse-in-online-games/ (credits to KingWanahakalugi) its an interesting read. But it also says "in-game real time referreeing" is not possible from a financial stand point, seeing that there are 67 million users and only 2000 Riot employees.

EDIT: On a side note, ESRB did rate League of Legends as: T for Teen. 11 years old is not quite 13 yet..

LostFr0stJan 5, 20161 votes

There is something that would be cool if you could do before you leave (if that is your ultimate decision; I respect that).

You represent a portion of the community that is largely absent from the boards. It would be valuable if you could submit a support ticket (under "submit a request") detailing your evaluation of the in-game situation for children and parents when playing this game, perhaps suggesting an auto-chat filter accessible in the options so that the children are not actually exposed to the abuse while still letting them know who to mute/maybe it auto-mutes the player before the abusive comment is posted.

League is not that old of a game, and with the continued expansion of e-sports and the like your situation will arise more and more and needs to be recognized.

-LostFr0st

BarkhoofJan 5, 20165 votes

May I, as a parent, make a suggestion? There are very few, if any, online games and communities that are acceptable for an 11-year-old. Especially one that pits player versus player, you're always going to have a subset of trash-talking that usually devolves to cursing. The rating on the game is at least teen and, while your son might even be mature for his age, I would suggest holding off on the gaming community if you can. You're the parent, enjoy time with your son. Just wanted to throw that out there.

The GovernerJan 5, 20161 votes

Especially when the game is rated T for 13-year-old Teen or above. Don't think the OP's son is eligible for this game yet.

Maximum MordeJan 5, 20161 votes

There is a mute button you know. Use it and report at the end. Old enough to be a parent but too dumb to use a basic game function. I feel sorry for you.

73150893_DELJan 5, 20161 votes

hmm. well thanks for a) the insult and b) not reading.

the mute button is after the damager is done.. my point is that if I tell my kids - if anyone treats in an abusive manner to leave the situation, then they come and say "Dad - i am banned or on a lower queue because i did what you said and wouldnt stay in a room where there is such behaviour", they are being punished for the work of others.

Saying "use a mute button" is after the fact - and im not sure about your comment - Old enough to be a parent - too young to use in game functions??? Care to explain what you mean there in the context of the overall discussion?

Actually - its ok really - from these simple comments i can see this is not a place for anyone in my family to play at all - since a simple discussion warranted such a response from you?

You dont need to feel sorry for me, really, but thanks and i hope that perhaps in the future, you can recognize the difference between a "solution" and the "Discussion of an issue" .

Maximum MordeJan 5, 20163 votes

{quoted}

Saying "use a mute button" is after the fact - and im not sure about your comment - Old enough to be a parent - too young to use in game functions??? Care to explain what you mean there in the context of the overall discussion?

Actually - its ok really - from these simple comments i can see this is not a place for anyone in my family to play at all - since a simple discussion warranted such a response from you?

Sure I'm happy to explain the comment. It was a passive aggressive dig at your intelligence level which I feel is lacking due to evidence presented within the thread. Admittedly I could have made the point without referencing children, I simply chose to use it as being a parent is conveniently supposed to be some indicator of adulthood.

You claim in your thread that you must stay in the game while the abuse continues to roll in, which is NOT the case if you mute them. Either you don't know about muting, or you are too stupid to use it.

You also ask what the best solution to your issue is. When people give you the best solution you just say it isn't good enough when it really is good enough and is proven to get people banned or we wouldn't have a new "OMG I'm banned" thread every few minutes. This implies that your sense of self entitlement is off the charts as you expect the problem to be dealt with now and you expect it to be perfectly okay to ruin a match for 9 other people by leaving.

In short, you didn't come here for a discussion, you came here to vent and hopefully get your viewpoint validated. I'm not interested in playing that game. Nobody wants to deal with emotional garbage on a video game forum. If you want an actual discussion, then examine your methods.

If this seems harsh, it is. I'm just tired of these threads popping up daily and felt like trolling a little.

AnomanderJan 5, 20161 votes

Hell I think that was harsh....But accurate.

73150893_DELJan 5, 20161 votes

hey there.. thanks for explaining it to me..

IN fact, you helped make the decision to send the account deletion email for all of us..

A shame that you missed the point of the OP was to gauge what is the situation to "best deal with this", i was asking opinions not looking for someone who is "tired from reading ..." and (in my opinion) might want to get off the game and get outside, if a parent who doesnt sit an watch the forums all day cant ask a question without being insulted. Further, the idea was that even with a Mute button, the point is that the "environment" for that game has been tarnished.

While I can appreciate that comment a previous person left about teaching children to be teammates and responsibility, i think that the team as well has equal an responsibility. I did find it interesting that in all of this discussion, it seems that the "rights of the gamer to continue to play the game" override any in-game response that one might have. In a team, other team members would not continue to play if one of theirs is being abused... just interesting to see in this community that a "Mute, Report, Move on" behaviour is prevailing - or that its simply "ok that this occurs".

to the comment " a person gets punished" - obviously there is an incident that occurred and in fact, for three games in a row we were put into a game with a particular person - so, for 4 hours, the abused person has to deal with this - muting and limiting functions they should be able to do - because of someone else.

And again - the point is not that abuse will occur, but that if a person can no longer tolerate the environment, because it has become so abusive, they have no method of letting anyone know - in fact, they are punished for protecting themselves (ban, lower prio, etc) and there is no way to say "Hey - please look at this, i had to leave cause of "ABC""..

Anyway - again.. Thanks for Maximum Mode for saying us time and energy in learning how poor the community treats one another...

cheers, Z

Awkward CouchJan 5, 20161 votes

Hey Zaletta,

I'm sorry to hear about your experience with League. There are a couple of things that I hope I can clear up for you.

if a person is abusive to me and continues to swear, shout and type derogatory comments

This is something that I see on the boards quite frequently, and it does get really frustrating. The good news is that Riot does punish/ban these types of people.

These are just the people who talked about getting punished (which there are more who don't talk about it on the boards) within the past 24 hours. There will always be people who fall through the cracks but a vast majority of them get punished. If you have more questions I would suggest taking a look at this.

One thing I wanted to note is that swearing in and of itself is not considered toxic. Saying something like "Man I fucked up" is allowed. Saying something like "Fuck you Lux!" is not.

In reading some of your responses in other threads, you say things like this:

Since this is your company policy and a "mute all" puts the onus on the person being abused to avoid it (rather than on the community to put a stop to this abuse and bullying)

you are saying that your community condones this abuse to continue and that i should endure 1 hour of this (at the option of having to mute everyone)

I would like to say that no one condones being toxic, that's the whole reason for this Player Behavior and Moderation board, is to stop toxisity in this game. I have to give credit to King Wanahakalugi and his response:

You should not be subject to abuse by another player, however, you are also punishing the other players of your game by excusing yourself. The mute button is meant to lead to neutrality long enough for you to finish the game.

League, and MOBA's like it, are different than games like COD or Halo. In League, or Dota 2 or Hero's of the Storm, there are 10 players throughout the course of the game. These players cannot change, with the exception of Dota 2, whereas in COD players can join or leave at any time and it will not affect the balance of the game. That's why leaving a game is considered unsportsmanlike in League.

i think that perhaps some "investigation" in to why a person is leaving (perhaps a checkbox to say "Leaving due to deteriorating environment" or something similar )

While that is an idea that I haven't heard of before, I just see something like that getting abused way too much. I just see people using this as an excuse so they don't get punished for leaving a game ever. But that's just my opinion.

I don't this toxisity problem is a problem with League alone, I've expirenced this with many other games including : WOW, CS:GO, Rocket League, TF2, and most recently Heroes of the Storm. But that's my experience so take what I say with a grain of salt.

NoobLearninGameJan 5, 20161 votes

Isn't there an option to censor swear words & such? I know those words aren't the only way to be offensive by a long shot but it might have helped.

There has to be a happy medium where the game isn't ground to a halt every time someone is offended, and which allows people to be punished for repeated offenses, this is about the best you're going to get in any competitive game for the most part (other than specific servers on games with strict & active admins that ban anything that would be offensive to the parents of children such as yours, or kid oriented games that have a strict policy & will ban/punish in some fashion shortly after reports are sent in).

Some game communities are nicer in general, but usually they're also a lot less competitive, or are pretty old games, with a smaller community that wants to retain players partly out of a sense of desperation to keep the population up enough for them to be able to play themselves.

Even in those nice communities you're still going to come across some very "toxic" individuals sometimes (who in some cases use cheat programs to make it even more unpleasant), and in many cases there's no reliable way to keep them out of the game, sometimes they'll even have the ability to bypass IP bans, something that can't occur in the same way in LoL because you've to have a separate account after one is banned, which requires a lot of time investment, a punishment of its own really.

Maybe it was just that I was not as capable back when I started & my performance bothered people I played with, but these days I seem to run into a lot less issues with other players (might be Rank & MMR based when it comes to Normals). There may be something to the idea that the lower levels in LoL are filled with the most toxic members of the community, many of them probably previously banned players that were forced to start a new account, and in other cases just impatient people of various ages who have a low tolerance threshold for anyone even creating a hint of negativity directed at them, intentionally or not.

I'm not trying to convince you to keep playing, but you do need to have skin of a certain thickness to be able to play more competitive online games that aren't strictly enforcing child-friendly policies. This type of behavior will always exist, and the only real option is to punish after the fact, or else 9 out of 10 people have to suffer through 20+ minutes of playing a slanted match because one person decided to leave. It's part of the agreement you make when you sign up not to do this.

themachampJan 5, 20161 votes

{quoted}

Hello Everyone..

I am "new" to League of Legends, having just started to play over the Christmas break.

While I am enjoying the experience in general, there is a situation that i am wondering how to best deal with.

The situation is that during a game, if a person is abusive to me and continues to swear, shout and type derogatory comments, in which the gaming environment has become one where I cannot stay (since to stay would allow myself to be abused further), the fact is that I am the one who is punished for being abused.

Based on what i have seen and read, the solution is that i should sit on the screen and finish the game, while the abuse and poor language continues being exposed to myself and (more importantly my son who is playing along with me) and then leave a "comment afterwards"? That neither indicates that this abuse was dealt with nor logged.

In fact, the reality is that if I dont sit and endure this 45 minutes of abuse, then I myself am penalized.

While I do like your game, the fact is that i wont sit in a game to be abused and i think that perhaps some "investigation" in to why a person is leaving (perhaps a checkbox to say "Leaving due to deteriorating environment" or something similar ) since currently, the Automatic Dropping of Queue for leaving takes a simplistic approach to dealing with Leaving and there are reason behind.

Or perhaps the TOU and the gaming community says "Nope - sorry, you stay and take the abusive behaviour and thats that" in which case, thanks for letting us know and we will look for entertainment elsehwere. Seems a shame to punish people for leaving an abusive situation without any method of discourse of defense.

BR/ Z

Yes, you can be punished for being abused...happens to a lot of people :(