Mastery is a measure of skill, not a tool for additional discipline.

Happy Jack·May 21, 2016·3 votes·537 views

Preventing already disciplined players from earning Mastery 6 & 7 through the Hextech restriction, is adding more punishment for seemingly no reason.

They have already served their prison term, paid their debt & are on parole (progressive discipline if they continue to violate the summoner's code).

The fact they can earn Mastery points for levels 1 - 5 but are stopped at 6 & 7 suggests this is a RIOT oversight due to the Hextech restrictions.

If it's not an oversight, then the inconsistent messaging of Mastery 1 - 5 is OK but NO to 6 & 7 really dilutes the intended behavorial changes that discipline aims to achieve.

99.99% of the time, disciplined players deserve punishment... but that doesn't mean they are the scum of the earth. Mastery 6 & 7 restriction is a step too far.

10 Comments

disregardableMay 21, 20162 votes

They're calling it a mastery level, but functionally it's more of a skin for your badge. Most people are going to pay money for it, I think.

Happy JackMay 21, 20161 votes

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They're calling it a mastery level, but functionally it's more of a skin for your badge. Most people are going to pay money for it, I think.

The merit of my points still stand. Piling on more and more discipline for extended periods... Is too much.

The player has already been disciplined and will be punished exponentially more harshly if he/she continue to violate the summoner's code.

disregardableMay 21, 20161 votes

It's not that bad. You reform, it goes away in a couple weeks. You don't reform, and you don't deserve chests.

Happy JackMay 21, 20161 votes

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It's not that bad. You reform, it goes away in a couple weeks. You don't reform, and you don't deserve chests.

Well I don't disagree, in the grand scheme, it's smallish stuff.

But you say if they don't reform they don't deserve chests.

Wrong. If they don't reform they deserve the next level of punishment, the already a stated policy of RIOT.

No where in RIOTs discipline policy is there a restriction of Mastery, I think it's an oversight that they probably won't correct.

disregardableMay 21, 20161 votes

It's Riot's policy that they don't deserve the free chests, mastery related or not. They can still pay for the chests and get mastery.

Happy JackMay 21, 20161 votes

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It's Riot's policy that they don't deserve the free chests, mastery related or not. They can still pay for the chests and get mastery.

Yes.

But the Hextech restriction had an unintended consequence when linked to Mastery.

My point is this was probably an oversight & if it was, it should be rectified.

PROJECT LeonaMay 21, 20161 votes

"99.99% of the time, disciplined players deserve punishment... but that doesn't mean they are the scum of the earth." Oh yes they are. I've met someone that got chat ban, and I understood why the person got chat banned as soon as I started the lane with him/her.

They are lucky that they didn't get permanently banned. They got banned because they deserve it. Think of all the players (they probably won't) that suffered from playing with them. People see mastery system as a reward. You got banned. No reward for you.

Happy JackMay 21, 20161 votes

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"99.99% of the time, disciplined players deserve punishment... but that doesn't mean they are the scum of the earth." Oh yes they are. I've met someone that got chat ban, and I understood why the person got chat banned as soon as I started the lane with him/her.

They are lucky that they didn't get permanently banned. They got banned because they deserve it. Think of all the players (they probably won't) that suffered from playing with them. People see mastery system as a reward. You got banned. No reward for you.

So your opinion is anyone who has ever been disciplined is the scum of the earth... And in addition to already being punished and on parole (pending perma ban)... deserves multiple other forms of discipline.

That opinion is in the minority.

Sure, some are just terrible people (maybe), but most are having a bad streak, rough patch IRL and so on... And they reform.

Even RIOT recognizes this as the tooltip suggests "80+% of punished players are never punished again".

PROJECT LeonaMay 22, 20161 votes

Why would you even get banned in the first place if you're not "scum to the earth" I've seen so many toxic players who never got banned. If you got banned then I can't possibly imagine how much more toxic one needs to be.