Your Chat Log is Meaningless Post-Punishment

Bernie Sąnders·5/1/2019, 2:11:29 AM·4 votes·2,236 views

I'm not here to try to justify why I think I shouldn't have gotten chat restriction

I'm here to give feedback/suggestion on how Riot can better justify their chat restrictions

Disclosure: None of my chat restriction(s) have ever been because of dialogues that included any racism, ableism, hate, or threatening language.

From reading my chat logs without context (the entire chat) you're essentially not showing the whole picture. When I read it back, it also just looks like i'm crazy and talking to myself. I can't imagine it being that hard for Riot to include the entire chat log if they were really wanting people to understand why they were punished, or if they wanted players to review the chat and reflect on what they did.

Thanks.

17 Comments

rujitra5/1/2019, 2:21:19 AM12 votes

They do this exactly because of people like you. They show you only your chat so you realize that only your chat matters. It does not matter what everyone else did. It only matters what you do. It doesn’t matter if you were responding to someone, if they started it, if they were worse, if they were trolling, etc. It only matters what you do.

They only give you your chat log so that you realize that your punishment is based on what you did, and the rules are applied to what you did - not what other people did - when determining your punishment.

Umbral Regent5/1/2019, 2:42:01 AM9 votes

I can't imagine it being that hard for Riot to include the entire chat log if they were really wanting people to understand why they were punished, or if they wanted players to review the chat and reflect on what they did.

How would adding other players' chat (which is not your own chat, which is consequently not what you would be punished for) help someone understand why they were punished?

How would adding other players' chat help someone review their own chat and reflect on what they did?

It seems more likely, to me, that the inclusion of other players' chat would lead to punishment cases devolving into an argument of who started what or whose behavior was worse. You're not reflecting on what you did if you're trying to see other people's chat and how it somehow relates to your own misbehavior - you're just looking for ways to try to justify what you did.

Zombie Gerbil5/1/2019, 5:49:00 AM5 votes

Doesn't matter if its not racism, ableism, hate, or threatening language. If you're negative or did any sorts of flaming, you simply defied the Terms of Use. You don't need racism, ableism, hate, or threatening language to break the rules.

AJStarhiker5/1/2019, 6:41:45 AM4 votes

Because the other players' chat logs don't matter.

They actually used to include everything back in the early versions of Tribunal. When they removed it to show only the reported player, there was no significant change in what people thought punishable.