"comments that distract rather than help" are a bannable offense according to support

mah1foo·3/17/2018, 7:11:22 AM·2 votes·1,285 views

Hi there, it's mah1foo again, still fighting Riot support about that case where I defended the enemy Darius from flamers. I just wanted to let you guys know of a few new rules that you might not have been aware of, just so that you know to avoid getting banned:

  1. Talking a lot without giving constructive feedback is spamming. None of the support guys have been able to point out where I flamed anyone, but they could point out that I didn't give constructive feedback during my time of talking. That's obviously spamming, and that's a punishable offense. So next time you wanna discuss about NBA in all chat? Don't. Or at least add some constructive feedback randomly in the middle.
  2. Comments that distract rather than help are also a bannable offense. So I suppose you don't even have to talk a lot, as long as your comments distract others. It's not like they can mute you, so this makes sense. Well sure, he listed many different ways to be toxic, but this one seems to be the one that fits my case the best (maybe the incessant whining also).

This is what we've come to, Riot system can just ban you and they can come up with any bullshit reason why they shouldn't revert it. Maybe I deserved this punishment, maybe I didn't, but so far none of the support guys have been able to point out any toxicity from my chatlogs, other than these nonsense rules they come up with.

27 Comments

TrulyBland3/17/2018, 7:34:57 AM23 votes

So, now that you found calling out Tantram didn't work out as expected, you make yet another thread on the exact same subject, but decide to just ignore his take on what happened entirely.

You managed to turn an absolutely valid complaint all the way into a good old case of "I didn't get the answer I wanted, so I'll pretend I got none at all".

Jo0o3/17/2018, 5:11:41 PM9 votes

Thread number 4, really? Isn't spamming what got you in trouble in the first place?

ModPeriscope3/17/2018, 7:42:02 AM8 votes

I think this issue has been pretty well addressed. The enemy top laner was inting, you tried to argue that it wasn't in an attempt to annoy the enemy team. Players didn't like it, you were reported, you were punished. Support reviewed the case, as did Riot Tantram, and many of us on the boards. Your chat was not welcome in the game.

If I weren't doing well in lane, I'd have appreciated a comment or two defending me. Not 60 some odd lines. That's not helping anyone. It's not helping to make League a better game.

Chermorg3/17/2018, 3:06:12 PM8 votes

None of that is "new" rules. The only new thing is you violated them this time.

YerroFever3/17/2018, 5:10:34 PM8 votes

This is your fourth thread about this topic. You are doing a VERY bad job at showing how you don't spam.

Leylania3/17/2018, 3:50:30 PM7 votes

The only thing you did defend was an inter, you did not support a bullying victim but rather tried to bully the enemy team by rubbing salt into the wound of them having an inting top laner. How can someone be this low to even make another thread after beeing called out on it and still try to act as if he is the good guy.

None of the support guys have been able to point out where I flamed anyone,

But Tantram did point it out and you know it. Just because the guys on the support team oversaw it or whatever was the reason for them not to name it, does not make you innocent. Trying to ignore Tantrams comments will not change this.

SavageConcordia3/17/2018, 2:22:14 PM7 votes

"that case where I defended the enemy Darius from flamers."

Aka

"that case where I defended the guy who was inting because he was feeding me"

o brigid o3/17/2018, 11:32:45 PM6 votes

Hey there! Before I knew all the details, I was actually on your side. Even so, I also have been punished for my behavior, and even though I'm reformed, I can sympathize with your aggravation.

To help ease your frustration at what you think are "bullshit reasons" for getting banned... I want to point out parts of The Summoner's Code that your behavior violated. This is the same Summoner's Code you agreed to before you even play any games on your account.


#3 ##Facilitate Civil Discussion ###...be mindful of how you present your point of view. If a player feels strongly on a subject, don't get caught up trying to have the last word. Just state your side and exit the conversation gracefully rather than give them the opportunity to pick a fight. ######I especially struggle with this one on the boards. It's something that I have to work harder on. (In your case, instead of just saying "hey, bullying isn't cool guys! top, you should mute them. don't pay attention to bullies." and then moving on, you spammed chat about it and continued to go on about it for the duration of the game. You also insulted other players after the game, which violates this section of the Code)


#4 ##Enjoy Yourself, but not at Anyone Else's Expense ###...If two players on a team start fighting, good communication and teamwork become nearly impossible. Once communication breaks down, the likelihood of victory is drastically diminished.

(In your case, you were in constant disagreement with the enemy team and you wouldn't let it go. Yes the mute feature exists, but your team shouldn't have to mute you for an argument with the enemy team that fills up the chat, which is how you violated this section of the Code)


#6 ##Show Humility in Victory, and Grace in Defeat ###Having a great game is one of the biggest joys that League of Legends can bring you. But always bear in mind that when you're relishing that landslide victory there is someone on the receiving end that is probably ripping their hair out. While it's alright to celebrate, make sure that you keep any gloating (or any other mode of self-indulgence) out of all chat. Instead, thank your opponents for the game. After all, despite their best efforts, they just made you a very happy person.

(In your case, even though you were "defending" your opposing laner, a lot of your chat was more of 'tooting your own horn' than really defending him. "I'm just so good and so strong there's nothing he can do." was the attitude and that kind of gloating violates this section of the Code)


#7 ##Be Resolute, not Indignant ###...If you end up in a game with an abusive player, don't lower yourself to their level. Instead, politely ask them to calm down. And remember, even if you're having a bad game, quitting or going AFK just ruins the game for the rest of the players. If someone's really starting to bother you, the mute and ignore commands are always there to resolve the situation.

######this one might be a bit redundant, but it's worth pointing out that it applies to this part of the code too (In your case, instead of just asking the enemy bullies to calm down or stop and then letting it go, you kept at it which can - and probably did - exacerbate the issue. By forcing the conversation to extend the length of the game and for insulting other players about it in post-game chat, it goes against this section of the Code)


Well, I hope this cleared up some of the confusion about why you were punished in this instance. I do genuinely sympathize with you because I know that your intentions weren't entirely malicious. Even so, we are all bound to abide by The Summoner's Code and have all agreed to do so before we started playing. I hope you do continue to play on a new account, and going forward you'll have the tools necessary to avoid a situation like this in the future.

Hoenheim7773/17/2018, 10:58:26 PM3 votes

Just stay away from this board honestly. Unless its an actual rioter commenting the responses will always be that you are toxic and deserve your ban regardless of whatever discussion you are trying to initiate.

colonel cranc3/17/2018, 11:22:37 AM3 votes

and another one

Bijeesny3/17/2018, 4:58:05 PM2 votes

mah1foo, don't try to turn sheeps against their sheperd, it's no use I think you did a good thing, and as long as there are people who are supporting you, there is no reason for you to tilt because of dumb sheeps move on ,and keep being yourself ;)

exitforever3/17/2018, 3:31:28 PM2 votes

sigh