"comments that distract rather than help" are a bannable offense according to support

mah1foo··2 votes·1,285 views

Hi there, it's mah1foo again, still fighting Riot support about that case where I defended the enemy Darius from flamers. I just wanted to let you guys know of a few new rules that you might not have been aware of, just so that you know to avoid getting banned:

  1. Talking a lot without giving constructive feedback is spamming. None of the support guys have been able to point out where I flamed anyone, but they could point out that I didn't give constructive feedback during my time of talking. That's obviously spamming, and that's a punishable offense. So next time you wanna discuss about NBA in all chat? Don't. Or at least add some constructive feedback randomly in the middle.
  2. Comments that distract rather than help are also a bannable offense. So I suppose you don't even have to talk a lot, as long as your comments distract others. It's not like they can mute you, so this makes sense. Well sure, he listed many different ways to be toxic, but this one seems to be the one that fits my case the best (maybe the incessant whining also).

This is what we've come to, Riot system can just ban you and they can come up with any bullshit reason why they shouldn't revert it. Maybe I deserved this punishment, maybe I didn't, but so far none of the support guys have been able to point out any toxicity from my chatlogs, other than these nonsense rules they come up with.

27 Comments

TrulyBland23 votes

So, now that you found calling out Tantram didn't work out as expected, you make yet another thread on the exact same subject, but decide to just ignore his take on what happened entirely.

You managed to turn an absolutely valid complaint all the way into a good old case of "I didn't get the answer I wanted, so I'll pretend I got none at all".

mah1foo1 votes

He left no take on what happened, go read all the unanswered replies to his answer. He never explains what I did wrong, he just says he would've punished me too. Okay, why?

Jo0o9 votes

Thread number 4, really? Isn't spamming what got you in trouble in the first place?

ModPeriscope8 votes

I think this issue has been pretty well addressed. The enemy top laner was inting, you tried to argue that it wasn't in an attempt to annoy the enemy team. Players didn't like it, you were reported, you were punished. Support reviewed the case, as did Riot Tantram, and many of us on the boards. Your chat was not welcome in the game.

If I weren't doing well in lane, I'd have appreciated a comment or two defending me. Not 60 some odd lines. That's not helping anyone. It's not helping to make League a better game.

mah1foo2 votes

The enemy top laner was inting

He wasn't inting, period.

Here's the demo for you to check yourself, maybe now you stop blindly believing everything Riot says: http://www.mediafire.com/file/lvd45yatayabhr4/EUW1-3559654395.zip

you tried to argue that it wasn't in an attempt to annoy the enemy team.

See above, he wasn't inting and I was defending him not to annoy the enemy team, but to stand on his side and support him.

Players didn't like it, you were reported, you were punished.

The enemies said "report troll trynda defending this noob inter" or whatever. You do realize people report each other for "noob champ" and whatnot?

Support reviewed the case, as did Riot Tantram, and many of us on the boards. Your chat was not welcome in the game.

Except based on comments and the up/down votes, clearly a vast majority of people agreed with me.

If I weren't doing well in lane, I'd have appreciated a comment or two defending me. Not 60 some odd lines. That's not helping anyone. It's not helping to make League a better game.

Oh yeah okay so let's ban the person. Let's just ban everyone who does something we don't appreciate. Fuck being different, fuck making mistakes. Ban everyone for whatever bullshit undocumented reason we want.

ModPeriscope5 votes

I'm not opening your file. If you're so inclined, black out the names and post it on youtube.

You do realize people report each other for "noob champ" and whatnot?

Someone called for reports on "troll support in my last game." Reports for non-toxic activity don't do anything.

It's true a lot of people weighed in on your topic, both for and against. Ultimately, it's up to Riot to make the final call.

You weren't banned, you were given a chat restriction. I know, I know, if it can trigger a CR then it can trigger a ban. But you weren't banned.

mah1foo1 votes

I'm not opening your file.

Then your opinion is irrelevant and you just proved you're brainwashed Riot fanboy. Sorry, but it's the truth, you take Riot's word as fact and refuse to check the evidence yourself. Stop posting on the forums if you're just gonna bash on everyone regardless of the situation.

TrulyBland3 votes

Opening files uploaded by a random stranger, especially when said person "dares" people to check it out, simply isn't a good idea. Implying that Riot brainwashes people into having good security awareness is honestly more flattering than you probably intended.

Edit: The fact that you didn't just put that link in the OP immediately, and instead only include it in fairly hostile posts replying to people who you describe as "sheep" and "brainwashed" really doesn't make this any more trustworthy either.

mah1foo1 votes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTUUOdeZPTw there you go

You're right I should've posted it in the first place, but I'm here now.

Chermorg8 votes

None of that is "new" rules. The only new thing is you violated them this time.

YerroFever8 votes

This is your fourth thread about this topic. You are doing a VERY bad job at showing how you don't spam.

mah1foo1 votes

And how is this spamming, I'm having a conversation with Riot support and I got an update on the matter, so I posted it here?

YerroFever2 votes

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And how is this spamming, I'm having a conversation with Riot support and I got an update on the matter, so I posted it here?

You are creating multiple threads rooted in the same incident. You are clogging the forums with threads about the same event. You created a total of 4 threads about this incident.

Also, why did you delete your replay of the game off youtube? Youtube says the video was removed by its user.

SavageConcordia7 votes

"that case where I defended the enemy Darius from flamers."

Aka

"that case where I defended the guy who was inting because he was feeding me"

mah1foo1 votes

Check the demo and decide yourself if he was inting or not: http://www.mediafire.com/file/lvd45yatayabhr4/EUW1-3559654395.zip

Now stop blindly believing everything Riot says, they're a company who wants to make money, they're not always on your side.

SavageConcordia8 votes

I'm not downloading some rando ass .zip file from a stranger online. If you want to share your video use YouTube.

Leylania7 votes

The only thing you did defend was an inter, you did not support a bullying victim but rather tried to bully the enemy team by rubbing salt into the wound of them having an inting top laner. How can someone be this low to even make another thread after beeing called out on it and still try to act as if he is the good guy.

None of the support guys have been able to point out where I flamed anyone,

But Tantram did point it out and you know it. Just because the guys on the support team oversaw it or whatever was the reason for them not to name it, does not make you innocent. Trying to ignore Tantrams comments will not change this.

mah1foo1 votes

The only thing you did defend was an inter, you did not support a bullying victim but rather tried to bully the enemy team by rubbing salt into the wound of them having an inting top laner.

Check the demo yourself to see if he was inting or not, go on, I dare you: http://www.mediafire.com/file/lvd45yatayabhr4/EUW1-3559654395.zip

It's sad that you all think Riot is some almighty god who leaves one comment and now you're all on your knees thanking Riot. Here's a fact for you: Riot Games is a billion dollar company who has no other purpose but to make more and more money, maybe you should stop believing them blindly and think with your own brain.

How can someone be this low to even make another thread after beeing called out on it and still try to act as if he is the good guy.

Being called out? Being called out for what? Yeah I said moron in the post game chat, how does that change anything? Riot support already confirmed that that's not the reason I was banned for, it was the chat spamming. Again good job blindly believing Riot on everything. I repeat, check the demo yourself to see who's lying, me or Riot.

But Tantram did point it out and you know it. Just because the guys on the support team oversaw it or whatever was the reason for them not to name it, does not make you innocent. Trying to ignore Tantrams comments will not change this.

I'm not saying I'm innocent. Like I mentioned a hundred times, I would've been fine with "you got punished for calling others morons". Yeah that's normal, I was toxic and I got punished. But that's not the case. That's not what I got punished for. I got punished for being the good guy and doing the right thing. Was I the bad guy later on? Maybe yeah, but that doesn't deny the fact that they punished the good guy not knowing he was actually bad.

Trying to ignore Tantrams comments will not change this.

What part of his comment ?? He didn't say anything, his comment changes nothing.

Leylania5 votes

Okay great so now you learned that constant spamming in chat is something that no one wants to read and you shouldn't do in the future since Riot, and if I had to guess most parts of the community, don't like it. It creates a toxic atmosphere (and is pretty annoying), ruining the game for everyone.

If your chat restriction is already over I see no reason why you are still complaining. You lost nothing so just move on instead of spamming here now aswell.

Riot Games is a billion dollar company who has no other purpose but to make more and more money, maybe you should stop believing them blindly and think with your own brain.

What reason is there to believe a guy that makes 4 threads talking about how great he is for defending the enemy top laner while spamming the chat and insulting? Tantram has shown us for years that he does a good job.

o brigid o6 votes

Hey there! Before I knew all the details, I was actually on your side. Even so, I also have been punished for my behavior, and even though I'm reformed, I can sympathize with your aggravation.

To help ease your frustration at what you think are "bullshit reasons" for getting banned... I want to point out parts of The Summoner's Code that your behavior violated. This is the same Summoner's Code you agreed to before you even play any games on your account.


#3 ##Facilitate Civil Discussion ###...be mindful of how you present your point of view. If a player feels strongly on a subject, don't get caught up trying to have the last word. Just state your side and exit the conversation gracefully rather than give them the opportunity to pick a fight. ######I especially struggle with this one on the boards. It's something that I have to work harder on. (In your case, instead of just saying "hey, bullying isn't cool guys! top, you should mute them. don't pay attention to bullies." and then moving on, you spammed chat about it and continued to go on about it for the duration of the game. You also insulted other players after the game, which violates this section of the Code)


#4 ##Enjoy Yourself, but not at Anyone Else's Expense ###...If two players on a team start fighting, good communication and teamwork become nearly impossible. Once communication breaks down, the likelihood of victory is drastically diminished.

(In your case, you were in constant disagreement with the enemy team and you wouldn't let it go. Yes the mute feature exists, but your team shouldn't have to mute you for an argument with the enemy team that fills up the chat, which is how you violated this section of the Code)


#6 ##Show Humility in Victory, and Grace in Defeat ###Having a great game is one of the biggest joys that League of Legends can bring you. But always bear in mind that when you're relishing that landslide victory there is someone on the receiving end that is probably ripping their hair out. While it's alright to celebrate, make sure that you keep any gloating (or any other mode of self-indulgence) out of all chat. Instead, thank your opponents for the game. After all, despite their best efforts, they just made you a very happy person.

(In your case, even though you were "defending" your opposing laner, a lot of your chat was more of 'tooting your own horn' than really defending him. "I'm just so good and so strong there's nothing he can do." was the attitude and that kind of gloating violates this section of the Code)


#7 ##Be Resolute, not Indignant ###...If you end up in a game with an abusive player, don't lower yourself to their level. Instead, politely ask them to calm down. And remember, even if you're having a bad game, quitting or going AFK just ruins the game for the rest of the players. If someone's really starting to bother you, the mute and ignore commands are always there to resolve the situation.

######this one might be a bit redundant, but it's worth pointing out that it applies to this part of the code too (In your case, instead of just asking the enemy bullies to calm down or stop and then letting it go, you kept at it which can - and probably did - exacerbate the issue. By forcing the conversation to extend the length of the game and for insulting other players about it in post-game chat, it goes against this section of the Code)


Well, I hope this cleared up some of the confusion about why you were punished in this instance. I do genuinely sympathize with you because I know that your intentions weren't entirely malicious. Even so, we are all bound to abide by The Summoner's Code and have all agreed to do so before we started playing. I hope you do continue to play on a new account, and going forward you'll have the tools necessary to avoid a situation like this in the future.

colonel cranc3 votes

and another one

Hoenheim7773 votes

Just stay away from this board honestly. Unless its an actual rioter commenting the responses will always be that you are toxic and deserve your ban regardless of whatever discussion you are trying to initiate.

mah1foo1 votes

You get downvoted to hell but you're correct, this board is nothing but brainwashed fanboys who refuse to think with their own brain. See this thread, I literally shared Riot's own demo as proof that Riot is wrong and I'm right, and they refuse to watch it.

exitforever2 votes

sigh

Bijeesny2 votes

mah1foo, don't try to turn sheeps against their sheperd, it's no use I think you did a good thing, and as long as there are people who are supporting you, there is no reason for you to tilt because of dumb sheeps move on ,and keep being yourself ;)

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