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Why aren't there warnings?

Rajin Kajin ·10/19/2017, 11:27:05 PM·2 votes·607 views

I just got a ten-game chat restriction. It's the first and only form of punishment that I've ever received, and I've been playing for a little over a year. I don't deny that I don't tilt. I'm sure I flamed a few times, etc etc. I just hate that there is no warning. There is no sense of where my place in the community is. I just got a little notification earlier today that "one of the people I reported was punished," so I was like, "hell yeah, contributing to the community." Now, out of the blue, I'm punished. Like I said, I'm sure I deserved it, but I just wish there was a better way to see what's going on. I wish I could see how many reports I have, how close I am to getting in trouble, all of that. My first warning, my absolutely first and singular transgression caused a ten game punishment, and me to not receive chests "until I improve?!?" I WANT to be a better player. I am GLAD that there's a system in place that checks behavior, and I'm glad that it's making me walk the line, but I really think that this is way too harsh. I've never told anyone to kill themselves or just flown off the handle like a lot of the people we see every day. I've never gotten in trouble before. I just think that the first notification, ever, that I'm a potentially toxic just absolutely crushes me. I think I was honor level four or five before this. I just wish there was a warning system. Like, how do I know that I've been being toxic, honestly? Do I really need to worry every time the 0/5 Yasuo is flaming me and threatening to report me? Because I have no idea how long I've been being reported, or what I've been doing wrong. Do you guys see where I'm coming from here?

TL;DR: I got in trouble for the first time, and I think it's too harsh. I know I obviously messed up, but I wish there was some way to be notified that I need to improve my behavior before I seemingly randomly get slapped with a penalty. I would've totally chilled out a long time ago if I knew that I was actually being toxic.

21 Comments

ExHentai10/19/2017, 11:31:23 PM6 votes

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I just got a ten-game chat restriction.

That is your warning.

OnlyYouCanHearMe10/19/2017, 11:44:20 PM5 votes

The 10 game chat restriction is the first and most minimal punishment. It basically IS a warning.

From the Instant Feedback System FAQs:

PUNISHMENTS GENERALLY FOLLOW A BASIC ESCALATION PATH:

First Offense: 10 Game Chat Restriction

Second Offense: 25 Game Chat Restriction

Third Offense: Two Week Suspension

Fourth Offense: Permanent Suspension

However, it is possible to skip to a Two Week or Permanent suspension based on the severity of the behavior in the game. Excessive negative behavior can result in a Two-Week or Permanent suspension at any time without having a chat restriction on the account.

TwinkiePro10/20/2017, 12:46:35 AM4 votes

There is a warning system actually. A year or two ago I received one saying chill out, click here if you promise to stop. However, the system can and will skip this step depending on severity.

Take this as a lesson, it sucks, but maybe a heavy hand is what is needed.

Telephone Booth10/20/2017, 1:58:41 AM3 votes

Hmm... I think your warnings should have come from your upbringing. If you were unfortunate enough to have parents that never disciplined you or taught you respect, then yeah that's your loss and you're gonna have trouble in life in general when it comes to knowing how to treat people and dealing with authority.

I get this feeling you grew up with the internet, where integrity doesn't exist. So you have this schewed idea of how to show respect and be good to people. It isn't Riots job to teach you how to be respectful and to instill values in you. They merely just don't want toxicity in their games, and will punish you when you show it. They aren't raising you. They're moderating their community.

If you "don't even know" that you're being toxic, then like I said, your parents failed to teach you how to speak in a respectful, or at least neutral way. Even school should have taught you this, but I know the American (if you are) school system fails in many ways and the only real goal of public schooling is to prepare you for wage slavery.

Riot does have a tier system in place so that those who are a bit clueless don't automatically get banned from their game. They get slaps on the wrist first (10 games of limited chat availability), and then when they don't learn still, they Up the ante. If anything, consider this light punishment to be your warning and consider yourself lucky to get upset over such a light punishment. It means you've had a pretty good life. Otherwise a 10 game chat restrict in a video game would be like nothing.

Edit: and how can you even say "I'm sure I was super toxic, I just had no way of knowing"? Like wtf does that even mean? Do you just black out during games and wake up after, not knowing anything you said? I don't get people like you. Sounds like you're trying to avoid taking responsibility for your actions and now suddenly you're a victim of a draconian system that punished you without a warning. Just seems so silly to me.

AJStarhiker10/20/2017, 1:34:20 AM3 votes

I would say there used to be warnings. I think they were scrapped aroind the same time the IFS was implemented.

When they still gave warnings, people would freak out because they thought it was the first level punishment (it wasn't). As they got used to seeing them, they completely ignored them.

Considering the number of people who think chat restrictions are a joke or not a "real" punishment, they would pay even less attention to nonpunishment warnings.

TheEvilQueen13510/20/2017, 12:23:31 AM2 votes

The initial warnings would be the terms of service that you agree to constantly, all the news posts that come up. look on the bright side, your restriction will be over before the end of season which means you still get ranked rewards. honor resets at the end of season so whoo.

i'm sorry this happened to you and that you feel this way but honestly you are probably lucky it's only a chat restriction and at least you know now for next season when honor and chests reset

AJStarhiker10/20/2017, 12:34:58 AM1 votes

Check your email (including the junk folder). If it's not there, you can file a support ticket and ask for the logs.

Until you post them, there is no way for us to see and help you understand what triggered your restriction.

nerak2310/20/2017, 12:43:58 AM1 votes

Self deletion

EDIT: I deleted my whole post is what I meant.

nerak2310/19/2017, 11:56:10 PM1 votes

Now, out of the blue, I'm punished. Like I said, I'm sure I deserved it, but I just wish there was a better way to see what's going on.

Okay, so now you know what you did wrong, correct? See, none of the rest of us do 'know' because you haven't posted whatever logs (in full) you received.

I don't disagree that there may be a better way of letting players know they are being reported. Seems like common sense to me but every time that a new ban-wave come out I do wonder if players understand the rules. GL though.

nerak2310/20/2017, 12:32:41 AM1 votes

Finally, because I feel like I've already explained this and that you're missing the point;

I haven't seen what I did wrong (yet).

What I did literally doesn't matter now. It's too late. It'll be fixed. Won't happen again.

Easy now , slow down ;) I agreed with you in part. Now, after reading the 2 previous posts from you I have to wonder... Are you just letting of steam or do you really want to know "Why aren't there warnings?"

If you haven't seen (understood) what you did to get punished , How are you going to fix it ?

Also, if you really have no ideal, no logs no e-mails etc. ASK for assistance from Riot. By that I mean threw the correct channels, support ticket should be first, You could even Ask for information from the many people who work for or assist Riot.