@Riot on Low Priority Queue - Prisoner’s island is a truly awful experience for the “prisoners”

Great Muta·3/19/2017, 7:14:33 PM·2 votes·1,004 views

From: http://nexus.leagueoflegends.com/2017/01/ask-riot-banished-to-prisoners-island/

>Question - Why doesn’t Riot queue negative players with negative players? What’s wrong with the “prisoners island” concept?

Answer >Reason Two: Prisoner’s island is a truly awful experience for the “prisoners” in more ways than one

>If we ship unsportsmanlike players to their own queue, they’d face a swath of issues that basically make League miserable by default. The queue would face higher rates of negativity in game, sure — but the diminished pool of players would also result in terrible queue times and lopsided matchmaking. It’d be emotionally satisfying to say they deserve it, but it’s squarely against our values of putting player experience first.

>Beyond that, building and operating a service for a prisoner’s island would suck Rioters and resources from efforts we truly believe in, like improving Instant Feedback, intentional feeding detection, and reworking legacy systems like Honor.

My questions to this are these:

  • Why do we care about how the people in Low Priority Queue feel? These people did not care when other people's games were being ruined. Most of them likely ignored and mocked the players who were contesting their actions. Guess who didn't care when the normal players had to deal with this? Riot and the trolls doing these actions. And why should they? You ban them, they make a new account for free and play on!

  • About terrible queue times - If someone is trolling in my game, they could waste up to 70+ minutes of my time. I would much rather wait an extra 10 minutes for a troll or AFK free game then have to deal with a troll for over an hour. I don't think I'm alone here either.

  • About lopsided matchmaking - You know what's really lopsided? When you have one team who has no trolls and another team with 1 or more trolls, turning it into a 5v4 and sometimes a 6v4 if they are feeding. Is that fair? As for the LPQ guys, again, they didn't care about ruining games for non-toxic players, why should we care about ruining games for them?

  • About resources and efforts - Once you make a one-time only script where players who are continuously reported are put into LPQ, I don't know what else you really have to do. You aren't changing the map, you aren't changing any champs and at most you are just adding a few popups letting people know how many more games they need to play to leave LPQ. Also wanted to note that I was looking through old Riot posts and I saw posts from 3 years ago about fixing the honor system. Does it really take this long? Riot is that short on staffing that it takes 3 years to fix something?

Sadly as usual, the responses on a lot of behavior related matters are disappointing from Riot.

24 Comments

AeroWaffle3/19/2017, 9:20:27 PM6 votes

Why do we care about how the people in Low Priority Queue feel? These people did not care when other people's games were being ruined. Most of them likely ignored and mocked the players who were contesting their actions. Guess who didn't care when the normal players had to deal with this? Riot and the trolls doing these actions. And why should they? You ban them, they make a new account for free and play on!

The people who are punished by the behavioral system are not just all lumped into one type of "toxicity". There are plenty of people who are punished because they didn't have the good sense to keep their opinions to themselves about afk's, trolls, or other unsportsman-like people.

Placing these types of players into an environment over saturated with trolls is not going to improve their behavior, likely the opposite in fact.

jpguy9023/20/2017, 6:31:39 PM2 votes

Cause if we don't care about other players, then we are no better than the trolls themselves.

Around999People3/20/2017, 5:51:33 PM1 votes

I'm not opposed to the idea, but it should be more than a handful of games. For the past 2-3 days I haven't had one game where I didn't feed. I just couldn't play right for whatever reason, be it getting countered, someone stealing my red buff at lvl 1, be it just having a bad day. I'm pretty sure at least someone reported me those days. So, should I be in that queue for having a bad few days? I didn't rage or troll or do anything but say 'gj' 'epic' etc when my team did great.

Basically, how would you seperate those that are toxic and deserve to be there from those just having a bad luck streak?