I'm so tired of players giving up at the slightest rough patch in a game

GiraffeFactory·8/29/2018, 6:57:49 PM·45 votes·14,796 views

It's becoming unbearably frustrating when I'm playing a game, especially a ranked game, and the smallest misstep leads to a player just giving up entirely. If you give first blood, you have teammates saying "gg." If you lose even a single fight, there's always that one teammate who just phones it in.

I feel like players don't realize how many losses aren't just because of the mistakes their team makes throughout the game, but how their "give up at the smallest misstep" mentality affects the game. When one player suddenly stops giving it their all because of a rough patch in the match, you're not only making it easier for the enemy team, but you're negatively impacting your team's mentality as well. When my teammate admits they've given up, I know it immediately affects me and my gameplay as now I have to deal with the fact that not only are we starting to lose the game, but now I have a whole teammate who just straight up told us he's no longer putting full effort into the game.

I apologize that this came out as more of a vent/rant, but this mentality has been present in the majority of my losses recently, and it seems like it's only getting worse.

41 Comments

Cavesloth8/29/2018, 8:07:44 PM38 votes

"it seems like it's only getting worse."

And it will continue to get worse, as long as riot continues down the 1-shot hyperdamage snowball meta.

LetMeCarry19838/30/2018, 2:08:53 AM17 votes

90% of the time, the team that goes 6-1 early is going to win. Why the fuck would I want to waste time playing out a loss? You don't want people giving up? Dont fuckin feed.

I just played a game where the enemy team had a troll support Garen who NEVER went bot. Just roamed around and got fed somehow. Our bot lane got a 2v1 adantage all laning phase. Want to guess what our AD carry's end game score was? Zero fuckin ten....that's right, 0-10. I really don't want to play out games with garbage players like that. So yes, you feed, I'm want to surrender, you prove yourself to be utter trash, I want to ff. Not gonna waste time playing with feeding garbage.

Professor Ward8/29/2018, 8:09:25 PM16 votes

To be fair, ive never played a game with so much gain/loss from a "single rough patch" either.

Say what you will, but this game is won and lost in single plays, i get the never surrender mentality, and i play to my fullest always, but sometimes games are in fact lost far before the end of game screen.

mack91128/29/2018, 7:38:58 PM12 votes

I think this game mentally exhausts alotta people especially when you are losing since the game feels so terrible when you are losing. It's all in there head you could say.

Curious Kat8/30/2018, 2:05:10 AM10 votes

At the same time i'm tired of players who think "we have the late game" who are 0/7, holding me hostage in a unwinnable match, that we end up losing 5 minutes later after they claim we have the late game.

Players need to learn both when not to give up, and when TO give up. There is a point of no return, and these players holding me hostage for 5-10 more minutes of my time for their ignorance and stupidity, and honestly, just annoying attitude, really urks me to no end.

I mean we could have the late game. If we could ever catch up to the enemy teams 2-3 item lead/4 level lead. But ya know, people gotta die every 5 seconds they are up.

Verxint8/30/2018, 1:14:09 AM8 votes

It's because winning in this game is amazingly fun while grinding out a comeback isnt. This is thanks to riot focusing on making sure champions high moments are as satisfying as possible but neglecting their low moments

hhaavviikk8/29/2018, 7:43:37 PM7 votes

fuck me I need those quickly giving up players in my ARAM and nexus blitz games, oh the score is 3-31? lolz vote no to surrender, we can winz diz guize! bloody assholes wasting my time

minorhacks8/30/2018, 12:27:01 PM3 votes

If i had a dollar for every surrender vote deinied that ended in a win Ild be a very rich man.

Phoenixdust8/30/2018, 2:13:41 PM3 votes

This is just a result of the meta. Rito can change this, but idk if they want.

But lets be honest, if somebody manages to get 3-0 in early, and his team is not total braindead, then that game is over.

Ash Lockheart8/30/2018, 6:52:02 AM3 votes

Remember back in the day teamfights took time? You had to move around to get to the back. The tank was a real tank and would last long enough to stay in a fight. Those days where zoning was important. And if you played a champ really really well it showed. I also remember if your team did poorly but took there time and farmed the come back was a real comeback. Hell the lane phase was 20 mins before a teamfight. Those were the days.

ACriticalThinker8/29/2018, 7:00:42 PM2 votes

Yup, Yup and more Yup.

TheUnrepentant8/30/2018, 1:21:30 AM2 votes

Got shutdown early in the jungle in a recent match. "Do we even have a jungler?" "I can take your farm (jungle camps), you're useless anyway." Jungler is the worst role to play with a non-premade. We came back and won the game (to toot my own horn, "perfect drag control woot!"), but it wasn't really too enjoyable.

Julianime8/30/2018, 1:29:37 AM2 votes

TLDR: Winning mostly feels like you managed to end the game in your favor after a painful endeavor. Losing sometimes feels like everyone you've ever cared about just told you to your face that they never cared back. Maybe life just sucks and it's not easy to deal with what is supposed to be an escape from reality thrusting more of life's problems onto you. Or maybe people are unsportsmanlike and should be reported, under the scrutiny of the players in the game who witnessed the behavior.

There's a thread I saw sometime last week that describes how winning barely feels satisfying, but losing just feels disproportionately awful. However, it could be entirely psychological, some people just react differently to certain types of stressful situations. It's absolutely happened to me on more than one occasion, to be fair, NEVER in ranked because I'm just not going to let my personal views interfere with competitive players, it's not worth my time or theirs, but people have bad days or even bad lives.

Sometimes you have to look at it from a different point of view, it's not necessarily that your teammate is no longer going to put in any effort, it could be that their confidence has been shattered and they think that no amount of effort they put in will be able to put them back at everyone else's level. They feel like they're now a hindrance to the game and can't really do anything because of how unbalanced the game has become. This isn't entirely unreasonable because the truth is even a few seconds off a trip back to your lane could mean the difference between keeping the pace, or an enemy who can dive you with absolutely no consequence (because turrets are garbage, essentially bendy straws, made of plastic, shooting spitballs).

In these cases, it's not anyone's responsibility to treat this person with special care, or baby them in any way, everyone's a victim of life's unfairness. But it doesn't hurt to help. Sure, some additional support to their lane can go a long way if they haven't really fed their enemy or if they have, just enough support to keep them from being consistently dived and killed without consequence. That way you and the rest of your team can start to feed off of a player who makes bad judgment calls from getting cocky after having been fed and mistaking that for extraordinary skill. At the very least, don't come crashing down on someone just because they've lost faith, understand that shit happens, and that some people play this game not just because they want to have fun, but because they need to escape the pressures of their real lives and then they can't handle when, suddenly, the game they wanted to enjoy becomes just another miserable reminder of how nothing they do is ever going to be good enough.

The easiest way to deal with it is to pay more attention to their positioning and coordination. If you need to back off of some teamfights, don't force engages, try to accommodate for some extra farming to catch back up. Most importantly, explain to them that you agree that it's a waste of time for them to try to force game-changing plays if they're too far behind to have a presence in teamfights or too weak to contest objectives, but the game isn't won by a single snowballed lane matchup (a lot of times it actually is, but this is assuming that the person on your team in ranked IS actually near enough to your skill level that they are neither intentionally feeding, nor foolishly over-extending once they've "given up").

Conversely, if you'd rather not deal with it so understandingly, buckle down on the player behavior and teamwork aspects and let it be known that the game isn't over and you'd appreciate it if they behaved more respectfully and less unsportsmanlike. You can report a player for negativity, just be straightforward and tell them that their negativity is affecting everyone else. Let them know that they can play safe and smart until the issue comes up to a surrender vote, and if they get outvoted it's only fair that they go with that diplomatic ruling, they chose to play a team game, so they need to be just as understanding of their team as you are of them. Tell them, as well, that as long as they don't intentionally feed, things will only get better for them, and that you're watching the map carefully to make sure they aren't trying to force the ending in their favor under the guise of "being caught off".

If they actually do continue with their unsportsmanlike conduct, you can mute them, continue to try your best and coordinate a 4v10 victory (4v10 assuming the one player is basically just a feeding trough for the enemy team) and report them for any offenses committed against the team.

Pacattack258/30/2018, 2:30:42 PM2 votes

Part of the problem is the game snowballs so hard that first blood actually is a pretty decent determiner for who will win the game... and first turret is basically a decree of the rest of the game. I mean at this point they should almost just save everyone the time and put the nexus behind the outer turrets so that we don't have to wait at least 15 minutes for a game that was already lost, especially the people who NEVER surrender just eating up more time for a lost game...

The game is WAY too snowbally right now and there's practically no chance for a comeback

Tundra Hunter8/30/2018, 5:37:47 AM1 votes

I strongly agree with this. It happens a lot in OCE as well. I feel this is much more frequent now that in previous season? I wonder why

SKT T1 DeadLY8/30/2018, 9:18:27 AM1 votes

I understand that you can win every game but when you are in a internet caffee and don't have much time it's not really the same. Like most of the time 2/3 lanes lose and the enemy just snowballs out of control i don't think there is hope at that point,we are just losing time.

KlydeFrog8/29/2018, 10:18:41 PM1 votes

That tends to happen in low elo and high elo

Luigi Tortellini8/30/2018, 1:42:33 PM1 votes

This entire game has been a rough patch since the end of season 5.

derbish8/29/2018, 10:17:48 PM1 votes

Then quit, everyone else did

https://steamcharts.com/app/20590#1y

CURSEÐ REVENANT8/31/2018, 4:23:55 PM1 votes

If the enemy team has 20 kills and my team has 1, then it is time to accept that you lost and move on to the next. you need to be courteous about other peoples time and how much time they have or are willing to put into a game. if the only chance of winning is drawing it out for an hour then there is no reason to continue playing. just move on to the next game.

Nøctμrne8/30/2018, 3:53:53 PM1 votes

Yeah, some people don't know when a game is actually over. As a jungler I'm constantly watching every lanes on the map. I can usually tell by how they are playing and what they notice if they will lose lane. They nearly always do, and unfortunately I get the sides where all 3 lanes lose, and I get blamed as a jungler. I know at that point the game is over and mute the entire team.

What I dislike is people trapping me in a lost game. When these instances occur, I'm usually fed 4+ kills and the rest of my team is at arouns 1 kill for every 3 deaths. I usually tell my team to give up, because what I saw in lane phase was not a winnable playstyle that can be reflected and should not be reflected in my elo.

Things such as getting early poked, (in the first wave), you dying to an enemy champion who is still for some reason at full health, teleporting in to die again within 10 seconds so you can blame me, and lack of map awareness to the point the wards you placed are absolutely useless and I have to spam ping them only for them to not listen and die from a gank.

These are usually when I tell my team the game is over, I'm well aware of my limits in carrying, and I just can't carry whole teams.

PowerSlave9938/30/2018, 4:41:04 PM1 votes

When people are giving up?

  1. When someone from your team gives first blood in jungle or in lane - gg wp, ff 15 plz, report rengar afk,etc.

  2. When bot loses tower in 4th minute mark - gg wp, report our bot thanks, no report jungle for being useless ,gg im afk, i'm feeding i dont care im smurf,etc.

  3. When people lose 1 teamfight - can we surrender plzzz, yes we can't win plzz, NO WE CAN STILL WIN --> 26:3 for the enemy team <----- NOOOOOOOOOOOO WE CAN STILL WIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINNNNNNNNNNNNN

  4. Enemy jungler successfuly ganking yours - gg wp, im out and so on

Norglics8/30/2018, 6:14:28 AM1 votes

i report them all , you should too , they are not only crybabies they are asshole subhumans too , they should die out at least from game