My account has been permanently banned for "feeding" in ARAM despite having a positive KDA

Halfroot·6/29/2018, 8:57:13 PM·4 votes·2,957 views

I don't know how this could possibly happen but would definitely like a reply to this false positive as soon as possible. These were the 3 games on my reform card that got me banned:

https://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2815284652/92419912?tab=stats https://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2814893925/92419912?tab=stats https://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2814744608/92419912?tab=stats

None of them had more deaths than kills and assists. I've already sent a support ticket but would really like to ask the boards if I did anything in those games that seemed remotely out of place.

Riot Game Support Ticket Status: updated: https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/requests/35366159

Edit: This account is currently banned but I would really like to chat with a Riot employee and actually debate over whether it was deserved or if it was a misunderstanding.

35 Comments

Umbral Regent6/29/2018, 9:03:12 PM6 votes

Positive KDA's don't mean that you weren't feeding or trolling. Judging by the fact that in all three games, you did the least amount of damage out of everyone on your team, I'm suspecting that you were barely fighting, not committing to anything, and focusing more on staying alive than actually helping your team.

And given that all three matches ended in defeat, it's pretty clear that your non-committal was wholly to your team's detriment.

TrulyBland6/29/2018, 9:14:56 PM6 votes

Right off the bat because it absolutely needs to be said: A positive KDA doesn't mean you weren't trolling during a portion of the game. It's also important to note that the stats that we as players see from this game are less than what the system that punishes you sees. That doesn't mean it didn't do a mistake, of course.

Now, as for my opinion: For an ARAM you have an unusually low amount of deaths in the Mundo game. The Viktor game also has a low amount of deaths, but more striking is how little damage you dealt to champions despite such a low amount of deaths. The Galio game I can't find anything suspicious.

With the limited information I have, I'd say both options are pretty plausible here, leaning towards it being a false positive. Hope you get your ticket answered swiftly either way.

SaberRattler7/7/2018, 10:29:20 PM6 votes

I'm going to butt in here. Because, OP has made several posts and wants an answer, which is understandable. As one of the people in one of the matches you were reported for, I'll explain my reasons for doing so.

After 3k+ aram games, I've reported less than 10 people for reasons other than afk. This was one of those rare situations where I'd go through the trouble to complain.

In your Victor game, you purposely choose Victor instead of Rengar from the reroll table. No biggie. But you didn't leave the pad until 3:53 minutes into the game. At 8:50, you basically went afk, chose to sit two turrets behind, and when enemy rolled in you died. As others have posted, one might chalk this up to dc, going to the bathroom, some inconvenience, I'll explain why it wasn't, because I was curious and went back to replay. Victor gets prototype hex core, but you bought pots at 0:10, which means you weren't late getting into the game. You moved your mouse at 0:53, waited until 3:53 because you wanted better gear to start off. Ok fine it happens. The problem is that even when you get the gear and the team is off to a bad start from a 4v5, you decide to just make an occasional hit to get the assist, then fall back into bush behind turret in the middle of a team fight we were winning. Then you take the chance to clean up kills or assists, and it's never a situation where you're an assassin trying to ambush.

{quoted} If you check the damage charts, I did want not contribute that much to the team and waited in brush for most of the game, as Udyr is not a very good champion in ARAM.

Ok some people play this way. They are unfamiliar with the champ or a champ that isn't well regarded for a certain mode. The problem is that this is an inconsistent statement. After the match, I spectated at least 3 of your other matches and looked at your match history. This type of behavior is a pattern. It's not just with champions you're unfamiliar or dislike with. Any time the the enemy team has a favorable team comp with hard poke, you basically roll over and don't participate. The matches you faced veigar a lux as a tank or fighter are good examples. You fight in so far as to not violate the letter of the summoner's code but still break it in spirit.

When the team has a favorable comp and more specifically you have a good poke champ, you go balls to the wall (your lux and ziggs match). You dive like crazy, and expect your team to tank and other players to back you up. You repeatedly ping the team tanks to help screen for you. Yet, when the shoe is on the other foot, you basically roll over, and end up having 1/5 the damage of the team support. When you play tanks, you basically sit behind turret and watch team get mowed down only popping out to make sure you get an assist if there's a chance. The exception is if there's a good team comp, you'll tank. Otherwise, you don't.

As someone who almost exclusively runs AP Reksai, AD ahri, etc... and multiple other weird off builds (in ARAM) because its often fun, I have no problem with someone being unfamiliar with a champ or doing weird builds. But they have to at least try to win.

The problem is that despite whatever excuses you provide, you clearly expect others to behave a certain way and don't do so yourself. You do the minimum to abide by the letter when team comps aren't in your favor to avoid an explicit feeding report, yet still do so implicitly. That was my evidence to Riot and they seemed to agree with me and the others who made the report.

Int Like Rickon6/29/2018, 9:05:49 PM2 votes

Your last few normal Yasuo games looked like you were inting. High deaths, low damage, low kp.

ı Sona ı6/29/2018, 11:56:13 PM2 votes

This sounds very unfortunate! I was in a scenario where I was banned and accused of the same thing (even though my score was similar to my allies and we were all being stomped). But I contacted Riot Staff and spoke with them through live chat and had it sorted out and cleared away in an hour. Hope it goes easily for you! :)

afmghost6/29/2018, 9:42:47 PM1 votes

People getting butthurt over unranked games.

In other news, it's hot outside.

Warlord Scrap6/29/2018, 9:14:10 PM1 votes

try submiting a support ticket appealing your ban. While i dont think your inting my opinion means nothing and neither does anyones on the boards truly. Only support can reinstate your account or at least shed some more light on why you were banned.

Felbhu6/29/2018, 8:58:22 PM1 votes

I'm calling bullshit.

Unstoppable Monk6/30/2018, 1:57:52 AM1 votes

I was almost surprised that people were rabid reporters in ARAM, but the culture of new accounts mixed with toxic players has created this mess.

BigBellBrute6/30/2018, 2:33:59 AM1 votes

You can be 10-1-10 and if that 1 was a deliberate feed and you get caught. you're punished.

Are you sure those were the games you were tossed for?

I see a 1-8 Katarina and a 3-9 Jarvan.

Plus, you're plat 5. And in your mundo game you went up against 2 low silvers and 3 unranked. What are you afraid of? In your other two games you were playing against people well below your tier.

And Aram rewards you for dying.