During my first Ranked of the day, our lucian died 1v3 under turret with 1/4 hp. Syndra mid and akali Jgl started saying "so bad, worst lucian ever" "get out of this game" etc. He RQ at min 9. Surely enough we lost.
I had to report all three of them because even tho RQ is not acceptable, what is the point of shaming someone and even be happy when that someone leaves?
What would u have done in my place?
What would u have done in my place?
Probably exactly that. They shouldn't have been doing that, obviously, and he should have muted them and played the game he signed up to play. My personal sympathies are with him rather than your mid/jungle, but that doesn't make it okay to abandon your team.
If it comes down to "blame," which is a silly thing to distill it to in my opinion, your mid/jungle are to blame for creating a poor game environment, and the Lucian is to blame for responding to it in a poor fashion.
While it is true I dont think he should have RQ. I personally think they deserved the loss and deserve all the blame, even if he DID Ragequit.
You know what this is?
in action.
You act like a self-centered, narcissist asshat to your teammates, shove your nose in the air and act like you are "superior" to your teammates, then suprise suprise you lose the match
Its the same people who will flame and degrade teammates for ONE mistake, then act completely oblivious when the target ends up getting SO tilted they end up making bigger mistakes and costing the match. This community is becoming more and more egotistical, more and more narcissist, more and more completely full of themselves and arrogant. They dont see thier team as well...Teammates They see thier team as "4 other witnesses to MY personal glory" So they spend the entire game talking down and degrading thier team, telling teammates how "noob/trash" they are every 5 seconds. And then they turn around "OMG how did we lose?" when that defeat screen comes up.
You flame your support, dont be suprised when they go off to support other teammates (Yeah if my adc spends the entire game kicking me around to make themselves feel superior, I will walk) If you flame your teammates and degrade them to make yourself feel more important, dont be suprised when they get tilted and frustrated with your ego and you dont get to blame them when YOUR over inflated ego causes a loss of the match.
True he shouldnt of ragequit, But The teammates that flamed him over and over to the point of breaking deserve their loss and whatever reports they get put on them. I am a firm believer in karma, you get out what you put in. You light fires over stupid little things (Omg u took 1 cs, ur troll, ur trash) or (Omg u took muh kill), then you are responsible if the match is a loss. You couldnt just play the game, you had to focus more on micromanaging the rest of your team.
What I'd have done if I were you is a few things:
I personally think this does two things. First, it says you're not going to leave him to the wolves. That goes a long way in making people stick with the team - the idea that there is one. Secondly, you need to put the ball in their court [with facts]. Simply saying "don't do that it's toxic" only encourages them. By saying "A good jungle would respond to a 3v1" you're (in not to many words) blaming the Lucian death on Akali.
If you've told him to mute them - which is occasionally necessary; to be reminded - then the ball is then in his court. I find I'm harder on myself than anyone else. But then to be told of my mistakes makes it seems like I'm also incompetent and that sends me into a blind rage.
"hey man, just mute them. Top and I didn't do anything. Besides, you're doing fine."
It would be nice if you don't have to engage in diplomacy, but it would also be nice if Riot took out the trash a little more often. Sometimes you have to play the hand you're dealt.
Imminent downvotes because it always happens when I say this, but I firmly believe that leaving the match when allied players are being toxic should be a basic right given to the players. It's a game, it doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things. It's supposed to be fun, and frankly I think people should be allowed to leave when it stops being fun for them. For some reason, everyone loves to victim blame and insist that being harassed all game is irrelevant, that there's some imagined obligation to stick it out because "your team needs you".
My team is welcome to stop being toxic griefers if they want me to stick around for their sake, to be honest. I will never understand why Riot insists we "owe" the griefers our time and energy when they aren't giving anything in return for it.
Assigning blame doesn't do anything. I'd report Lucian for leaving, and the antagonizers for running their gobs instead of playing the game.
Obviously the lucian. If you are dying 3 v 1 under tower at 9 minutes you are probably playing pretty horribly and deserve to lose.
And due to the existence of the mute button the only way that the rest of you team could "flame" the lucian is by him choosing to not press mute and then pay attention to what they type
Honestly I'm with Lucian on this one. Like, he deserved a report but if a player hard flames they also deserve to have their teammate rq.
I would have done the same; reported both the afker (report for afk) and the people who made fun of him (report for negativity/harassment depending on the language used). I can sympathize with the Lucian, but if he leaves the game, he breaks the rules and thus I report him. I cannot sympathize with the negatively behaved people. They are undermining the team's chance to win and thus (theoretically) could also be reported for griefing, but in practice that would never happen - so, negatve/harassment reports for them and a quick prayer to Bob so that he remembers to punish those two. I would most likely forget Lucian from the prayer.
Well I would say both the ragers and the quitter.
They ruined his experience and he made you go from a toxic 5v5 to a toxic 4v5
Both, but i think the team is "more" at fault.
The same thing you did bud.
As others have already said playing the blame game never helps. Think about it this way. If you had muted all at the start of the game would this have bothered you? You wouldn't even know.
But the lucian should have muted and stuck out the game honestly. Obviously the mid and jungle were toxic just sounds like a wash of a game.
I remember playing a game in flex on my smurf where I was the only one doing really well as Jax, while all the other 4 people were hard feeding, and for some reason, they were ALL flaming me. Since that happened, I just didn't care about winning or losing the game. I didn't ragequit, but I just did my own thing and didn't help my team defend or whatever.
Honestly, if they are ALL gonna be a bunch of dicks, then hey, I don't care either, if it's my smurf account.
i woulda reported all of them for verb and luc for afk
The afk. /mute
