Player Behavior & Moderation

TreeJay·Mar 31, 2016·1 votes·765 views

people who play bad and refuse to change, or take criticism in game should be punished as well as the people who are deliberately playing bad,

14 Comments

DaenMar 31, 20167 votes

In your last ten games, I see the following scores:

2/10/1 5/10/2 1/8/5

Do you feel you should be punished for playing poorly in these three games?

This is an intentionally loaded question, because it gets to the heart of what you're suggesting. Everyone has bad games, and it's unreasonable to assume that people are refusing to take criticism or are otherwise malicious in their poor play.

TreeJayMar 31, 20161 votes

good thing you didn't look at the other players on the team, you would've felt dumb.

BarkhoofMar 31, 20163 votes

When you went 2/10/1 you had an average of 3cs/min when everyone else on your team was pretty much positive.

Your 5/10/2 game, the only teammate close to your score was your lane-Naut (3/10/4) with approximately the same gold/cs.

Your 1/8/5 game was won not because of your contributions but, it would seem, in spite of them. Everyone else on your team was positive.

I fail to see where Daen would feel dumb looking closer at those games. I'm also a firm believer in removing the log from your own eye before attempting to remove the plank from your neighbors...

Chaotic SageMar 31, 20162 votes

Pretty sure he just needed a quick baseless retort to attempt to shield himself from the burn he just suffered.

TreeJayMar 31, 20161 votes

oh look we have an analyst here, seems riots refusal to release any game information such as chat logs ect has skewed your views. feel sorry for you mate. if they would however, you'd see a blatant refusal to work as a team.

BarkhoofMar 31, 20162 votes

I'm guessing the "analyst" crack is your attempt at an insult. I'm....hurt? If by "skewed my views" means "I don't believe that people who are playing badly or not listening to me shouldn't be punished", you're damn right. No one died and made you or me God's gift to gaming. If people are trying to win, they are welcome to play however they seem fit and frustrate me because I might not know better than they.

As an aside, I don't see where chat logs would reinforce your argument people playing badly should be punished. I'm merely pointing out that the other people on the team during those games seemed to have done well enough for themselves.

No flash no lifeMar 31, 20162 votes

I understand where your logic came from, but I can only agree with the last part since it kinda falls under intentionaly assistng enemy team category.

As for playing bad and refusing to improve, it'll be hard to justify that and will be difficult to prove. Think of it this way: in the eyes of faker-tier players, a diamond player is just as bad as a bronze since they're both much worse than they are. Going by your logic, does that mean everyone below diamond ought to be punished just because they haven't climbed to challenger after years of trying and what little improvement they developed is as good as nonexistent in the eyes of a god?

TreeJayMar 31, 20161 votes

its more of a, "let me realize that i've fed 3 times and should probably stop situation". when someone tries to correct them on it, they get defensive and bitchy, or continue to feed. one of the two.

MasterSomethingMar 31, 20162 votes

I'm a terrible player, but I have my moments where I shine. I won't stop playing, and I will slowly improve. But improving takes time- From months to years. You cannot give a man a sword and tell him to master it in one day. A man must get experience in fighting, develop a style, perfect the style, and learn through trial and error what works and what doesn't. This does not happen in one day.

LintheMar 31, 20161 votes

No.

o Maui oMar 31, 20161 votes

people who play bad and refuse to change, or take criticism in game should be punished

It's part of the learning experience. Why would you punish someone for not being good at something? They'll learn and get better, or they won't and stay bad. You can't force someone to get better at something, as frustrating as it might be to watch.

Also, just a thought: if it seems like a lot of people are responding poorly to your criticism, maybe you need to change the way you give criticism or stop doing it altogether. After all, you can't control their reactions, but if those reactions are consistently negative you might be better served changing the one thing you can control--yourself.

TreeJayApr 1, 20161 votes

the state of this games community is exactly like the state of the people in america, overly sensitive. its the internet and 2016; if you're still being offended by words, you probably should evaluate yourself and ask why you're so insecure with something that someone who you don't know said. people are going to say things that you were brought up being told were wrong or rude. deal with it, especially if you're going to try and ruin something for someone.

o Maui oApr 1, 20161 votes

Nothing you have said could possibly absolve someone of intentionally abusing someone else. Even if we are too sensitive and overreact to small hurts--which I don't necessarily agree with--then yeah we need that self-evaluation but we also need people to stop being jerks because it's petty, pointless, small, and creates a negative atmosphere that no one enjoys being in.

LintheApr 1, 20161 votes

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the state of this games community is exactly like the state of the people in america, overly sensitive. its the internet and 2016; if you're still being offended by words, you probably should evaluate yourself and ask why you're so insecure with something that someone who you don't know said. people are going to say things that you were brought up being told were wrong or rude. deal with it, especially if you're going to try and ruin something for someone.

Wrong.

It's not that Im offended. Personally, I couldnt care what you think about me.. But I play League to have fun... and having some guy bitch at me and belittle me isnt fun...