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Toxic Player Seeking Help (Long Read! Be warned)

Lennz·7/14/2016, 9:23:36 PM·2 votes·409 views

Just as the title says. It's been about 8-9 weeks since I got off my 10-game chat restriction and when I got it I was shocked. The way they worded it, "among st the few X% of our player base that is toxic enough to be issued this punishment", it really got me. Am I really someone who is rude, toxic and with bad behavior towards others? I took a a week off LoL, because I wanted to collect myself and modify my behavior. I served my sentence, and I made sure to barely even look at chat, and kept playing my games, more successfully, not ironically.

Then came time to hit ranked again, and this is where I'm experiencing problems again. If someone is toxic towards me, such as "you're bad, kys, blah blah blah", anything like that, I don't care. I ignore them (mentally, not chat wise) and just keep playing. I will sometimes even answer, "what would you suggest I do? I'm open to advise". And I do my best to play off their style, if they cannot conform to mine. I have no problem with that. But then I get those games where people are struggling, and I offer advise, and it is either met with hostile retribution or somebody piggybacks off my comment and turns me into a villain. This is when I get toxic, when my drive to fightback kicks in. It's not like I want to fight, but if someone's messing up, and I'm giving them help, and in return they either flame me, or just intentionally do the opposite to hurt the team, that ignites a fire in me. To give a fresh example:

Trundle (top), Ahri (mid), Alistar (supp), Twitch (adc), Amumu (jg, ME) vs Xin Zhao (top), LeBlanc (mid), Leona (supp), Vayne (adc), and Gragas (jg). I started by welcoming everyone, wishing them luck, and asking for a leash. At about @5 we had our first trade occur in mid lane with Ahri vs LeBlanc, she ends up dying, and politely calls out to help, I make sure to assist her next time. Unfortunately, next time, she froze mid gank, and was killed, an immedietly Gragas came and cleaned me up. So I told her, that it was ok, and we would try again after I helped bot snowball a bit. Went bot, helped twitch get a double to get him a head, and got fire drag. In between coming back, she dove/ulted leblanc while she was 40 CS behind, and 1 kill down. So at this point (from the advise i've been given from higher elo players) I told her to play a bit more passively, and sit by tower till we could for sure shut her down, but she continued to dive her 3 more times. At the 5th death, where i told her to please just hang back and no response from her, I asked my summs to report her for intentional feeding. It's been 5 deaths, where she has done nothing but straight up dive her and die, when she's got a 5 kill, and 60+ CS lead on her. When I say please report, immedietly Trundle, whom i had ganked for earlier in game and helped him snowball, begins to be nasty towards me, saying I'm a toxic player and that he'll report me, if I report her. So i reply with, "just please get her to stop feeding and i'll keep my mouth shut." Nope. No change. At this point LeBlanc is 6/0 and can 2 shot twitch and me despite having a fair bit of MR. So when grouping Ahri instantly dies, and Trundle blames me, for, get this, "feeding LeBlanc" and being toxic towards the team, and that I have no right to say anything because I'm not 10/9 like he is (5 of his kills, being ganks i provided.). Normally I wouldn't care right? But this is ranked, my elo is on the line, it's not just YOUR game. I have given you 45+ minutes of my time, and my full attention to try to win, and I can't just not tell her to play safe, and let her feed, that's an obstacle your putting in MY path. So I didn't say anything until @47 where I got sick and tired of his attitude and I ripping into him. I got more toxic than Singed and Twitch. Needless to say we had already lost. This is my problem right here. It's competitive play, and it's a team game! I have a responsibility to them and them to me, but I'm punished for being vocal and helping/reporting those that create unnecessary obstacles. And then everyone takes it as a joke. "You're a cry baby, a flamer". So I'm not supposed to care/try to impact my game? Am I supposed to just go zombie mode, and do nothing? Like I'm not toxic because I want to be, I'm toxic because I care about something, and people do everything in their power to take a dump in it if the game doesn't go their way.

So that's my story, I dropped from doing ranked for today, even tho my win rate is 65%, I felt the need to cool off and type this out, because I do have a responsibilities to my other summoners and I'm not going to join the queue tilted. But what do you guys think? What can I do? Where's the healthy balance? Is it my fault? What can i do to inspire others to work better, rather than divide a team?

Thank you in advance.

4 Comments

Deathspasm847/14/2016, 9:39:18 PM3 votes

Your major problem is suggesting for everybody to report someone for feeding. Anytime anybody says that they are in most people's minds being toxic or a troll. Most times peope aren't intentionally feeding they just suck or are being outplayed that game. Nothing you can really do about someone that is playing awful like that and not taking any advice.

Lennz7/14/2016, 9:46:47 PM1 votes

So the answer, is to just accept the feed and take the loss? Because for the rest of the game, until that last tower protecting the nexus blew up, there was no backtalk from me, I kept playing trying to mend the wounds all over our lanes that a fed LeBlanc,now grouped, was creating. But Trundle was still being nasty. So what do I do? Lose game and endure harass? If doing nothing is the key, I'm not sure I want to keep doing ranked, where my fate is completely decided by 4 other's mood in a game.

Totalwanabe7/15/2016, 7:01:54 AM1 votes

don't ask for report ever. that's what got you get punished. All chat or team chat doesn't matter. considered has negative behavior. Even if you're in the right to ask for it. Probably because it's a usa based corporation like you has a civilian you must not help someone life because they can sue you if you break a bone to keep them alive. Funny part it's like a crime is being committed and riot tell you not to ask anyone at the crime scene to call the cops.