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Bans for false reports

Morgana Ultima·9/8/2018, 10:55:36 PM·1 votes·3,190 views

Back in the day if you filed so many false reports you were given a 1 week ban. We need to bring this back.

Why do we have so many reports? Its because reporting costs nothing. Somebody in the game says they hate the Steelers and you like the Steelers? May as well report because there's no repercussion not to. Who knows, you may actually get them in trouble.

Sure, you may say that eventually the value of your report decreases. That's true. But if you're reporting everyone you dislike you're going to get a successful punishment eventually.

Something needs to be done to combat report-happy players. If you have to report somebody at the end of a lot of games then the problem is with YOU not the other players.

Some possible solutions:

  • If you report so often and the reports are invalid you're given a warning followed by a 14 day ban and then a permaban. Reporting to grief somebody should be considered equally as toxic as any other "mean" behavior.

  • Each account should only have so many reports that can be issued per day/#number of games played. If you're reporting somebody every other game then you're probably the problem. If you're throwing down 20 something reports in one day then you're probably the problem.

It's time to hold players who cry wolf accountable for their behavior.

33 Comments

Sukishoo9/8/2018, 11:00:33 PM12 votes

Back in the day if you filed so many false reports you were given a 1 week ban. We need to bring this back.

That was never a thing and never will be.

DuskDaUmbreon9/8/2018, 11:02:04 PM8 votes

There's five problems with that:

  1. You do sometimes just run into that many toxic people in one day. It's not common, but it's happened before.
  2. Riot doesn't want to discourage people from reporting for things that could be interpreted either way. If I report someone for something that, to me, would be highly toxic, but Riot doesn't punish for it, that could ultimately end up in me being punished, despite the fact that, given my upbringing/culture/whatever, what they said was extremely toxic.
  3. False reports don't carry any negatives for either party. You can be reported 9x every match for over a thousand matches in a row, and it won't result in any kind of punishment if you didn't actually do something wrong. It might result in Riot looking into your history personally because nine thousand reports in a thousand games would be astounding, but if they found nothing wrong, it would just leave Tantram and the other PB people scratching their heads for a while.
  4. Partly derived from the above: You make it sound like it's a bad thing that they're getting people punished. It's not like they're actively ban-baiting someone or anything like that.
  5. This would only serve to discourage people from reporting actual toxicity simply because they're afraid it might not be counted and they'd be punished.
Kei1439/8/2018, 10:59:27 PM8 votes

[{quoted}](name=Morgana Ultima,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=3kk6NP6b,comment-id=,timestamp=2018-09-08T22:55:36.035+0000)

Back in the day if you filed so many false reports you were given a 1 week ban. We need to bring this back.

It never happened. It did change your report weight to make it useless when you blindly reported people.

Why do we have so many reports? Its because reporting costs nothing. Somebody in the game says they hate the Steelers and you like the Steelers? May as well report because there's no repercussion not to. Who knows, you may actually get them in trouble.

You won't get in trouble if you did nothing wrong.

Sure, you may say that eventually the value of your report decreases. That's true. But if you're reporting everyone you dislike you're going to get a successful punishment eventually.

Actually, since the IFS, report weights are no more.

Something needs to be done to combat report-happy players. If you have to report somebody at the end of a lot of games then the problem is with YOU not the other players.

It's called better education and clarity that false reports don't do anything to others.

It's time to hold players who cry wolf accountable for their behavior.

They actually get punished. It may take them a few games, but eventually the system catches up to them.

AeroWaffle9/8/2018, 11:30:00 PM7 votes

A statement comes to mind here with your suggestion;

[{quoted}](name=Morgana Ultima,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=EbeO4bee,comment-id=000000000001000000000000,timestamp=2018-09-07T19:06:57.275+0000)

Okay so I guess League just doesn't welcome emotionally mature players who know how to stand up for themselves. That's fine. We can take our business else where.

Protecting trolls is apparently more important.

You're now suggesting that people have a chance at being punished for reporting, which would discourage reporting when someone does see something they feel like is worth reporting. Since a lot of people would tend to prioritize the safety of their own account over trying to make sure Riot is aware of the other person's poor behavior.

Thus, protecting more trolls.

EvilDustMan9/9/2018, 12:30:18 AM6 votes

No, 9000x reports won't make your tiny bit of toxicity punished.

No, reports have never worked like that.

You are just a bundle of wrong.

Voldymort9/8/2018, 11:00:35 PM6 votes

i don't understand the purpose of this post

if you are reported and you do nothing wrong, nothing happens as a result

so what would this policing reports thing that you're suggesting be used for?

[sg-lux-2]

Phoenixdust9/9/2018, 8:11:05 PM2 votes

We also need a reporting system, where you can report players who report too much, and we can also punish players who falsely report players for reporting too much.

We can extend this for eternity. I think this is a pretty good way, to spend time with useless shit, yet still thinking we do something.

MrFawknSunshine9/8/2018, 11:12:19 PM2 votes

there is tiers of punishment. it typically starts with 10game chat restriction , 25 game chat restriction, 2 week ban, perma ban.

depending on what you did you can skip tiers.

and if you are falsely reported it ignore those if it finds nothing.

zPOOPz9/9/2018, 1:56:47 AM1 votes

No. Just no...

mlm olo mlm9/8/2018, 11:15:04 PM1 votes

I guess Riot has finally given up on the whole "machine learning" bit?