What do you expect when you flame your teammates?
Do you expect them to go from 0/5 to 14/5 and and magically carry? Seriously, I want serious answers.
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What do you expect when you curse after hitting your toe at the edge of the bed?
I wont flame people for no reason. But I will flame them if they're going out of their way to make the game as hard as possible. Take my recent ranked for example.
I had Nasus top in my team who wasn't doing that great. I told him to just play defensive and stack under tower. But instead he kept pushing the lane, and ofc fed both top and partially jg. I told him several more times to just play def, which he didnt listen and even went to take scuttle and shit without vision, getting caught out. And then he said "Not my fault man, I played with enemy top last game and told him I'm streaming, now he's ghosting me"
i told him NICELY to turn off stream then, but he refused, and proceed to play the same (feedling enemy team) And then I got pissed and started to flame him.
We won that game in the end, but it would end quicker and easier if he just listened.
okay, I'm toxic and all but, how to react to shit like that?
I put it this way. In order to win, you need your team to HELP you. So by flaming and degrading your teammates who dont meet YOUR skill expectation (You want diamond, they play bronze) That is like spending the entire game telling your neighbor how much of a worthless "Trash" neighbor they are, and then wondering why said neighbor (team/teammate) refuses to help you carry a heavy sofa up a flight of stairs.
If you spend the entire game Telling your team how pathetic and garbage they are, You dont get to complain when they want nothing to do with you. When they dont want to be around you, when they dont want to help you. People say "its a team game" and try and use that as an excuse as they spend the entire game telling thier team how "dumpster fire trash" they are, how they are nothing but "feeders" or "inters"
Far as I am concerned, if My team flames me, I am under NO obligation to assist them in any way. and if they lose the match? that not me "Greifing" or "Throwing. That is -natural consequences- of you acting like you are "Too good for this trash team", acting like your team "deserves to be flamed for being such garbage"
Yeah you flame your team and stress them out, they will not play better, they will infact play MUCH WORSE. But wait, watch people come in and use something like "kda" or "win/loss" as a free pass to dismiss this arguement. They use INDIVIDUAL stats to validate or dismiss a point on a TEAM BASED, OBJECTIVE ORIENTED (aka NOT RELIANT ON KILLS) game.
Yes.
What do you expect when you call legitimate advice "flaming"?
I flame people because they need to understand that if they play ranked I am going to hold them to a higher standers then in norms. That means: having map awareness, warding, objective control, and having a basic understanding of your champion and you matchup. If you do not do these things and we are losing because of it I am going to get mad and tell you to go play norms or bots until you understand these concepts better.
Only delusional people will tell you how they want to help them improve so they flame them for their own good.
Lets be logical here, most people that flame do it just because they are unsatisfied and feel bad because they are losing, even if it may be the fault of the player that is getting flamed.
There are many different types of people out there, some may just flame worse players then them, others are bad themselves and flame, one thing all flamers got in common is that they flame because they feel bad and want to feel better by flaming you because they think you made major contributions to losing that game so they want you to feel worse.
In my opinion, I feel trash talking can motivate someone to play better. This is not always the case obviously, as some people take offense to different things, but for me getting called bad simply motivates me to prove the other person wrong. There's no better feeling than getting flamed all game for feeding or doing poorly in lane, then managing to turn the game around and shut your entire team up, or the enemies. It doesn't always happen, and it feels bad that I didn't do well and couldn't find a way to turn the tides, but it always leaves me with the feeling that next time I'm going to do better in those cases.
There is definitely a difference between a bit of trash talking and being excessive or inappropriate, but to me, calling someone a bad player, trash, etc. doesn't mean that they should get reported. For many people that might hurt their feelings, but that's life unfortunately. Your boss in real life telling you that you aren't doing well enough or that you're doing something wrong is also going to hurt your feelings. That's where people rise to the challenge, or simply continue failing and lose everything. A mature, successful League of Legends player isn't going to let someone calling them bad stop them from improving and succeeding.
There has to be some sort of reason why this recently dinged lv 30 thresh got dia with 30% wr so you just assume everyone is trolling you. Riot is trolling you, ur mates are trolling u... So u proceed to flame them for being a bunch of degenerates. Does that make sense?
Might make them feel as bad as it does to play with them.
I flame to potentially have my teammate improve. The flame being beneficial or detrimental depends on their mentality and how they perceive flame
I don't flame people, it's not like there's any point to it.
That depends on if they're doing bad intentionally or not. If they're trolling, flaming them only makes it worse because you're giving them what they want, which is attention. If they're genuinely bad, flaming will just make them feel like shit and not want to play in general. Overall, just don't flame, because nothing good is going to come of it. You'll just piss people off and probably get banned.
I am not a flamer, but according to some flaming streamers I watch they say it makes them feel better, that's it. They don't have any illusions of player starting doing better. They logic if one useless/"inting" is being flamed it won't be any worse, and they just want to reveal stress. Note I in no way support this position, and know that flaming is always making things worse regardless how hard you want it to be false. But yeah here is somewhat serious answer.
Nothing and that's precisely why I flame when I flame.
It's a form of release me and mild punishment, I put my heart in the game at least I'm making the fkin' punk feel stressed and annoyed like me
In the rare occasion I did used to flame it didn't help much... Except for when it did. Sometimes people respond well to flame but most times they just do worse.
I expect to relieve some stress that has been building up from their horrible decision making. That's about it.