As a avid gamer since 2004...

StudMuffinChris·12/27/2016, 7:46:41 AM·5 votes·992 views

...I honestly gotta say that this game has cultivated, without a doubt, the whiniest, and softest generation of gamers I have ever seen. Honestly, when did you people grow such thin skin? Some one was mean to you? Mute them. Get over it. Grow a pair.

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ModPrandine12/27/2016, 8:18:09 AM8 votes

The mute button is not a get out of jail free card. If you force someone to have to mute you then you're doing something wrong. From Ulanopo's Knowledge Base:

“People who report are simply being oversensitive. The mute button exists for a reason.”

Let’s start with the Riot quote on this (link (http://forums.na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=30696571#post30696571)):

Why is verbal abuse punishable if there is a mute button/language filter? Players shouldn’t need to rely on features like the mute button or language filter to engage with other players in positive ways. When a player verbally abuses another player and forces him to use the mute button, they have already created a negative experience for that player.

Simply put, Riot says no. You can scream and cry all you want, but it is their house and their rules.

With that out of the way, I think the topic deserves some further discussion. The theory is that, if people resolved to care less, then they would be happier. I often refer to this as “Argument from Stoicism” and I think it is a fairly weak philosophy because it places the burden on the person being expected to endure the behavior rather than the person exhibiting the behavior. “You should be able to handle it” is just a flimsy excuse for being a bully or a jerk. I have to be the bigger man so that you can do whatever you want? That hardly seems fair.

There is also the issue of how I spend my limited free time. Like most people, I am constantly required to make value judgments between the different forms of entertainment that are available to me and, let's be honest, we live in an age of nearly limitless entertainment options. If I'm having a bad day in League, I can just fire up Steam and play a whole bunch of games that don't require me to put up with someone's BS.

This is not an issue of weakness or thin-skin; it's a question of choosing activities that don't leave me feeling frustrated and angry. Too many of those experiences and I'll just find something else to do. Riot knows this.

AeroWaffle12/27/2016, 10:40:37 AM7 votes

As a gamer since 1994, I can't say I like how internet anonymity has turned people into thinking that they're entitled to be assholes without consequences.

Kitty Cat Tosha12/27/2016, 9:12:46 AM5 votes

Gaming since 2004 and you still have not learned how to cope with adversity? What games have you been playing?

EvilDustMan12/27/2016, 10:09:39 AM3 votes

I've been an avid gamer since 1992 and I don't like having loud randos on the internet getting on me for every little mistake I make.

bad arcade kitty12/27/2016, 8:24:10 AM3 votes

riot has a very bad moderation policy when their main effort it's to punish those who are negated with /mute instead of aiming to mainly punish inters/afkers/trolls/scripters

i wish they copied dota's policy, it would make the game much better

NiamhNyx12/27/2016, 8:08:10 AM2 votes

I know, I remember back when I played some other online games (Halo, CS) and if someone was being a rude ass hole, all you did was kill them, and if they were better you sucked it up and took the punches. But this is the era of "The Free and Offended Americans!!!"

Martensitic12/27/2016, 11:54:11 AM2 votes

As an avid gamer probably since before you were able to spell the word "Computer" (based on the fact that you started gaming long after I became an adult), I can safely tell you that toxic morons were NEVER accepted in gaming communities.

The only difference is, that there were fewer of us back in the goold old days, and getting rid of idiots was easier, because once they were banned from the clan or blacklisted on the server, there was no appeal/make new account, and since everything was dependent on your handle and street-cred., hiding behind online anonymity wasn't really an option.

bad arcade kitty12/27/2016, 1:50:49 PM1 votes

you know, nobody questions that the "toxicity" i.e. verbal abuse should be addressed in some form, but riot simply does it both very tough and very clumsily

permabans and 14 day long bans aren't a common instrument to address it, it's usually the stuff vs those who cheat, actively ruin multiple games or with whom the company in question has some financial disputes (chargebacks, sometimes even fraud etc). it's ridiculous how little permaban is worth in the league comparing to the most of the games. it's a pretty usual case when somebody, after a certain amount of reports against them (and everybody who plays this game is reported) was reached, is chat restricted or banned for stuff like "f yourself" (pretty often said when they were provoked) or even for "typing too much" (c) one rioter answering a guy who didn't type a single insult why he was banned, and then they are permabanned because when their term ended they said somebody that they did a bad move or something like that, were reported again and this time it didn't need a lot of reports to ban and permaban them. it's not something which i invented btw, it's how it happens. i usually suggest people who were banned once to keep full silence for a while when they play again not saying even "hi" to protect themselves. how people try to justify this crap would be beyond me unless i remembered that most of people are sheep, that's on a side note.

so, this system firstly is very tough to a few people who certainly didn't deserve such a severe punishment and is very clumsy because it allows those who are actually "toxic" to insult people for a long time till they get the needed amount of reports to be banned, at least if they avoid the tabooed words (mostly sex and race related ones). speaking of the tabooed words, a few people are banned for quoting insults in their address ("he called me n-----!"), because the bot considers it as them using the same word themselves... very silly, indeed

now, several people did tests that if you keep silent you can ruin hundreds of even ranked matches with inting, afking, trolling and you will not be banned, because the focus of this whole system is the verbal abuse. meantime those, who are annoyed at you and bm you for trolling, can be banned if you report them. it is completely unacceptable. it should be vice versa, those who troll the games should be banned and the proper punishment for verbal abuse it should be chat restrictions, maybe even permanent chat restrictions, but not bans, the more so permabans.

do you realize that you can be way more free in what you can say when you are talking on this forum than when you are talking in the game? we can call each other names here, the more so we can call each other bad players etc, without any risk to lose our account, and usually without any risk to even get our posts deleted, meantime speaking in the game we are at risk to be banned for saying the very same stuff. it's weird and very wrong, the in-game chat punishments should be similar to the forum ones i.e. it should be chat restrictions with limited pings per minute and stuff

Risk of Fate12/27/2016, 1:03:25 PM1 votes

As a gamer who suffered through Super Man 64, I would rather sit through that painful experience again than to hear how bad I am. Let me enjoy playing the thing, if I mess up, okay tell me. If I mess up and you question mark ping my dead body and call me a retard, I'm not going to be happy. If you tell me to kill myself, you obviously have issues yourself as it's a stupid piece of electronic. OMG, you're Diamond!?!? Don't care, you can play this game, I'm going to play Stardew Valley and compare who's having the better time.

GarthBrooksIV12/27/2016, 8:58:05 AM1 votes

I think many people take pride in the way they play the game and think that they are good and realize they make mistakes.

When other players rub the mistakes in their face, flame in all chat, spam enemy missing, it is just frustrating as hell to them so they respond negatively to the harass from their team.

You're right that people should just mute and focus on enjoying and improving their game, but that mentality isn't always there for many people.