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Why is it toxic chat gets punished but griefers do not?

TaTer120·2/7/2017, 2:49:31 AM·3 votes·817 views

Why is it that I constantly get put with teammates that grief but never get punished? I'll report a toxic teammate who was toxic during a game, but whenever somebody intentionally feeds or refuses to help the team, they just get away with it?

Example A: My most recent game. My mid Ahri gave first blood to the enemy team's mid Katarina. Then a little later she died again. Our jungle Xin Zhao starts whining in all chat about "This is why you ban Katarina" "ggwp" "I'm just gonna afk farm until we can ff" and proceeds to do that. He didn't mention anything about banning Katarina in champion select or anything. He just raged once she got a tad ahead and refused to help the team the rest of the game. So we had to go about 4v5'ing until the enemy team won.

Now I almost guarantee this guy won't get punished for essentially griefing us into a loss. Had he just helped us when the enemy dove us or anything at all, we most definitely could have come back.

Why is it I continue to deal with players like this and It seems like its never ending, but as soon as someone says one bad word in chat, its a chat restriction?

I would rather deal with a teammate being abusive over chat and still playing the game, then waste 30 minutes of my life being forced into a 4v5 by a teammate that didn't get their way and refuses to help.

4 Comments

EyesOfTheFox2/7/2017, 2:56:52 AM1 votes

You can still report those people after the game. They get dealt with depending on how often they get reported. The more they get reported the more likely they are to receive a temporary/permanent ban. Also it's hard to tell what "not playing with the team" really means. Did you go in 1 or 2 vs 3 or 4 or 5 and then blame them for being across the map when you initiated? Did your decisions in game lead to them not wanting to be a team player if they specifically say they aren't going to help? This game is hard to come back and win if other lanes have a rough go. I've lost a lot of games today because other lanes are fed and there's nothing I can do to help because my lane went into a stalemate or got gangbanged by said fed champions. I chose not to play with the team in certain instances because they just kept diving in and dying even though they were behind in levels and items. This is a tricky game full of humans. If you really feel you were wronged, just report it at the end and move on.

AeroWaffle2/7/2017, 3:00:16 AM1 votes

The simple answer is; it's easier to detect and reliably hold someone accountable for.

Your chat behavior is 100% controllable by you, you can't accidentally flame someone. So Riot can be sure when you're judged on your chat.

Comparatively, playing poorly intentionally is harder to detect since playing poorly un-intentionally is not against the rules. Riot want to be extra safe and not punish someone for just being bad at the game, which unfortunately means that more people get away with griefing.

This Is Your Dad2/7/2017, 5:44:57 AM1 votes

Your chat behavior might cause people to grief. Try letting a couple mistakes slide. The moment our jungler ganked bot lane and all three of them died, our vi said gg. So we lost. Just stay as chill as you can.

KVbqbFsC8e2/7/2017, 7:24:08 AM1 votes

Laziness. Trolling can't be easily detected by an automated system, and Riot rarely punishes people for that due to "just a bad game".