RiotRepertoir and Meddler please read,1st chat restriction ever in over 2 years,a warrented penalty?

For RiotRepertoir or Meddler, before you freak out at all this text, and commit to reading all of this, just search for your names on specifically why I asked one of you to read this below, its in the paragraph that is numbered 3. If you decide not to read this after reading that paragraph I understand because I know you guys are likely very busy with other things in your area of focus for this game, but if you do I would really appreciate it as you two in addition to having good game knowledge you likely have a big influence on what may be considered deserving of a penalty or not.

Want to emphasize this is my first chat restriction after almost three years of actively playing, and first post on forums, honestly what warranted my penalty exactly?

I want to point out I have been playing this game consistently for over over 2 years and close to 3 years, and I want clarification here and others opinion on my first chat restriction. This is my first post and I typed all of this in a rush so please excuse minor grammatical errors. I want to also point out I have always stood firmly against obnoxious behavior on this game not just because it hurts the atmosphere of the game but because it does not help teamwork and makes it more likely we will lose the game.

Now I want to give context because according to the chat log, this does NOT show what happened in champion select, would be nice if somehow riot could look that up somehow, I am unaware if they can or not but it would be helpful.

So giving context to what was not in champion select; both our jg and sup did not ban a champ, usually if someone isn't planning on banning someone they ask their teams for bans. So I am paraphrasing because I don't remember my exact words(which is why I want champ select chat log), I asked, " why no bans? I would have asked to ban ww?" our jg who had cho hovered who chose to ban noone replied negatively and rude in a way to suggest no good teamwork with this guy, honestly don't remember what it was he said exactly but he did reply to suggest he was switching from cho jg to Kassadin jg with grasp of the undying just for the sake of trolling and out of spite to my comment, which is and understandable question for a ranked game; if it was norms I couldn't care less.

In addition to thresh our sup did the same thing and banned none, and I suppose our sup was also poking fun at what the jg was doing which made me assume they were premades doing the same thing to bother me. Regardless we had a troll jg who was obviously tilted in addition to our sup who was probably autofilled and tilted, and I said in champ select I am dodging; usually when people act like this in champ select they are almost always negative in win rate by a decent amount.

I don't dodge often but honestly was hoping maybe someone else might and I waited till just before 2 seconds on the timer before the game starts to load, because this was likely an auto loss because their team comp was much better. Turns out after I closed the game and relogged the dodge did not register and I was stuck in the game; that made me even more annoyed than I already was considering I knew this game was very likely going to be a disaster and strategically it only made sense to dodge because I was not in my promos.

So of course we lost and funny enough their jg carried as Warwick and helped to snowball everyone's lanes, and ww was also who I asked if could ban in champion select rather than not banning any champ.

I want to also emphasize our jg kass went 2/13/1 and thresh went 3/11/5, by far our worst players, which I was not surprised in champ select. None of us did great that game(hard with a ahead ww) but it's no surprise they played the worse and at the end it is safe to say Kass was intentionally feeding and not even trying to fight well as a team.

Thank you for reading the context of this, now this is what I said in game:

Game 1 Ramaero: when I try to dodge and do it too late Ramaero: please report kass troll pick and insults in champ select Ramaero: when someone questions why you ban none Ramaero: im scared of our jg feeding Ramaero: and the duo thresh trolling around too Ramaero: stop defending ur buddy just caues ur premade Ramaero: im gold Ramaero: almost in promos Ramaero: i dont dodge often Ramaero: jhin Ramaero: did u not see what went on in champ select Ramaero: gj Ramaero: u get my honro if u carry dar wp Ramaero: wwtop Ramaero: bot ult? Ramaero: wwbot Ramaero: mb should have bakced Ramaero: .. Ramaero: wwbot Ramaero: tresh Ramaero: stop pinging Ramaero: mute thresh this guy Ramaero: u need to come help ur duo faster Ramaero: slow reply Ramaero: just teact faster with better map awanreness please Ramaero: muted now Ramaero: dar try not push too high ww good Ramaero: this is why u ban ww Ramaero: just going to stay in lane and roam top Ramaero: sorry jhin Ramaero: sup top Ramaero: just hit yes Ramaero: i pinged not to fight Ramaero: wanted to get bot towr Ramaero: who said no id like to know how u want to play this so we win Ramaero: hit yes Ramaero: we dont have a jg with the troll pick and thresh is tilted with him and we are behind Ramaero: thats why i asked earlier how u think we will win Ramaero: i want to move on Ramaero: report kass please after its over Ramaero: gj dar Ramaero: can someone gegt a farsight Ramaero: i have oracle Ramaero: if u werent os fed Ramaero: so* Ramaero: ww op Ramaero: i kileld xayah bot Ramaero: what happned mid Ramaero: ... Ramaero: and ww came bot for me Ramaero: 2 ppl Ramaero: please report kass and thresh Ramaero: u werent only one dar

Now I have four things I want answered:

1- Why can I not see the ENTIRE chat log AND all that was said in champion select so people can see the context of what I am saying which is by far NOTHING compared to how some people trash talk in this game. The closest thing that I said that was offensive, and was out of retaliation for what thresh was doing is: Ramaero: tresh Ramaero: stop pinging Ramaero: mute thresh this guy Ramaero: u need to come help ur duo faster Ramaero: slow reply Ramaero: just teact faster with better map awanreness please Ramaero: muted now

I said this to and it was directed at thresh because they were invading our bot jg and fighting kass which I came first to help before anyone and thresh spam pinged me when I died trying but I took xayah with me at least even when I was outnumbered because bot reacted late to the invade on our jg kass and thresh started spam pinging me after, on top of that spam pinging me quite a bit in this game with enemies missing, in which I muted him. Told him I muted him(which I did, i muted everything) to hope he wont waste time trying to bother me and focus on the game.

2- Why is it that I got a penalty yet I did not see Kass receive one either, how can you not have chat log in champ select be a part of your decision making process because that is relevant?

3- I want to hear a response from two separate people from riot. I want to hear from one person whose job has nothing to do with player behavior, ideally RiotRepertoir or Meddler because even though I don't post on forums I do read posts occasionally in gameplay and in the dev corner and respect how those two do their work in general on here and are very active with the community; however I want to see someones insight that does not specifically deal with player behavior to better understand where I'm coming from and knows how things can go often when playing this game and can keep it in perspective how the context of this game went in addition to what was said, AND what was said with the STATUS QUO of this game with all the experience I have playing, and was definitely not considered worthy of a penalty with people getting away with far worse.

The other response I would like is from the person who specifically judged me and gave me this penalty, and how much he really looked into this game, or he judged me just from what I said without the context of the situation or in general how my honors are and this being my first chat restriction for good reason for almost 3 years.

4- If there was no mistake or oversight in my penalty and by your standards it was deserved, then please clearly point out what were the things I said that caused the penalty so I know better what not to say and am more mindful of what can be said without receiving a penalty.

Reason why I typed so much in game was because we were losing and needed better teamwork to try to win what was very much likely going to be a LOSS THAT I DID NOT want to be a part of in the first place which is why I tried to dodge. You have any idea how many games I have gone through that people have said things MANY TIMES WORSE THAN I HAVE, yet I did not receive a message stating they received a penalty after I reported them? What I said in this game is NOTHING compared to what I deal with frequently when people throw insults around at each other.

Notice even though Kass troll picking was the player who really cost us this game, yet I did not even say anything directed at kass this entire game after we actually went to lane

Everything I said below was before we actually started getting cs in lane and was utter frustration from being provoked by teammates in chat and finding out that the dodge did not go through even though I know I closed league when the timer hit 2 seconds, I am not good at dodging but seems like I have to do it earlier than that for it to register as a dodge:

Ramaero: when I try to dodge and do it too late Ramaero: please report kass troll pick and insults in champ select Ramaero: when someone questions why you ban none Ramaero: im scared of our jg feeding Ramaero: and the duo thresh trolling around too Ramaero: stop defending ur buddy just caues ur premade Ramaero: im gold Ramaero: almost in promos Ramaero: i dont dodge often Ramaero: jhin Ramaero: did u not see what went on in champ select

That was what i said before we started getting cs in lane, much of it retaliation from thresh and kass. I want people to understand I am not saying I was the "ideal friendly summoner code following" player this game; I am not deluded enough to think that; I hold my hands up and say I said harsh things in chat this game. However the point I am trying to make is, my replies were as a result of provocation do to INTENTIONAL DECISIONS made by teammates IN CHAMPION SELECT and IN GAME to annoy and lower our chances of winning that were unsportsmanlike. Much of my replies suggest me simply communicating with my team and trying to have good teamwork such as:

Ramaero: gj Ramaero: u get my honro if u carry dar wp Ramaero: wwtop Ramaero: bot ult? Ramaero: wwbot Ramaero: mb should have bakced Ramaero: .. Ramaero: wwbot Ramaero: can someone gegt a farsight Ramaero: i have oracle

Believe it or not I am not the type of person who curses, it's not my style of talking despite it being such a common way of communicating in general by people, I did not trash talk anyone in the game, I gave constructive criticism at times and even asked for others opinions, because I am not acting like I am the best player at the game and know everything, especially when we were so far behind, like here:

Ramaero: who said no id like to know how u want to play this so we win Ramaero: hit yes Ramaero: we dont have a jg with the troll pick and thresh is tilted with him and we are behind Ramaero: thats why i asked earlier how u think we will win Ramaero: i want to move on

I said this when I voted surrender and basically I wanted for the people who said no(there were two) how you think we can win because honestly we needed a miracle. And if in any way these statements were a part of the reason why I got a penalty I am at a loss for words for what you consider appropriate communication, because I do not see anything wrong with what I commented on with those 5 messages; and I put emphasis on this being in comparison to being nothing compared to the things many people say in this game that is far worse yet get away with it.

I can't emphasize enough this was a match I admit I was not as friendly as I should have been, I hold my hands up and say that; HOWEVER my unfriendliness was directed ONLY at thresh and kass due to how they were behaving and their intentional provocations, and I could have acted MUCH worse and you KNOW people in this game act much worse than I do given similar circumstances, that is an understatement.

I pride myself in encouraging people who aren'y playing well or having a bad game in not saying things in game to make them feel bad, I try to help them play better and be positive; because that type of mentality is what wins games and creates comebacks and helps make the game more fun in general. That is how I am as a player and in general as a person and strategically it is the most logical way to communicate simply because it is a team game and we have to help each other play better.

The only time when I bend the positive and logical mentality I have to communicating with people in this game are situations in which I know I am being provoked by someone wanting to sabotage a game or is just trying to make someone feel bad online, which is something in general I avoid doing but when someone is pushing you for no good reason naturally you want to push back, and that is what I did this game HOWEVER, and this is a big however, this is absolutely nothing compared to the garbage I commonly see people say in this game especially when they have practically no reason to talk that way and were not provoked.

The reason I typed so much and explained this so thoroughly is because of how I behave in this game in general is well above how most people do with regard to respecting people online and creating a friendly gaming environment. I may sound egotistically with that comment but that is the honest truth, this hurts my ego as someone who tries to always be a good teammate and encourage and help people and because this is actually me at my worse yet this is no where near as bad some things players have said and done that I have experienced yet they have gotten away with it, and frankly the majority of people on the game don't set the bar very high to do that, which is why receiving a penalty considering I am one of the nicest people you will find in this game is just wrong. Like even if I just got a warning without the chat restriction I would still be posting this, maybe not with the same elaboration or intensity, but definitely I would be because I believe comparatively it is undeserved.

I personally do not believe I deserve this penalty because in comparison to how I see people act on this game then I every time I report someone for verbal abuse or intentional feeding, etc. then at least 50% of them would receive a notification, AT LEAST 50%, yet it is safe to say 10-20% of my reports I receive any notification on people getting a penalty AND I have reported people who have acted MUCH WORSE than I have in this game yet they receive nothing? I wouldn't even think twice for how I was behaving and what i was saying to be considered reportable. Where is the consistency in that?

So please I want my above 4 requested answered ideally by at least two people from riot, but at the very least please tell me what in my chat log was specifically considered deserving of a penalty so I have a better understanding of where you guys draw the line; because honestly considering I have reported people for far far worse and they get away with it, I really want that at least answered.

It's a complete disgrace I am receiving a penalty for something that is NOTHING COMPARED to the ill intent and malice people show in this game, especially when I say with confidence again that I am without a doubt one of the more respectable and good-natured players on this game, and well above the average for how people act with their attitude and obnoxious behavior online. PLEASE ANSWER THE 4 QUESTIONS I ASKED ABOVE IN MY POST, because as far as I understand, even though I acknowledge I said somethings that were harsh, considering what I see people get away with in comments that are completely full of malice, immaturity, and hostility , and I came nowhere near some very obnoxious people I have experienced in my history of playing this game who have gotten away with having said and done FAR WORSE things than this by far; with how I understand your games communication standards after playing many games for almost three years consistently I find it disgraceful and undeserved that I got a penalty for this.

And if this really is a deserved penalty, I suggest you give warnings without any penalty associated with it like chat restrictions to people who have played at least several months if not at least a year with a good standing just a warning to get a better idea of what communication you don't want in your game especially considering you know people get away with far worse than what I have done. Since I have played for almost three years now there are countless people who have acted absolutely despicably and full of negativity and malice in this game THAT I HAVE REPORTED and received no word of their penalty, that is what is hardest to accept about all of this. I believe riot as a company handles this game well, but this is the first thing I have found so questionable, riot kindly respond to my first post on these forums. Please answer the 4 questions I asked in a way that also isn't open to interpretation or full of ambiguity.

Also to other players reading this I welcome your thoughts on this too, constructive criticism is appreciated. I know this is wordy but I really want to here from riot their thoughts on this please, as well as if people who have played this game for years and can admit to having said worse than this yet have not received any penalty, I am sure there are plenty out there. I hope I did not bore you, thanks for taking the time to read this.

Poll below, please vote honestly, hit yes if I deserved a chat restriction despite the common vulgar abusive comments people say in this game often that are far worse that what I said, or vote no if I did not deserve the penalty. Please be honest about it.