Where on Earth do I even start with this...
Effect -> nothing.
You don't know this for certain. Unless you have a reliable source of information about whether or not a player is punished, alongside something to tell the future (because not all punishments happen immediately), you can't know for absolute certain what the effect was.
Thanks guys for such wonderful system where for saying "sell skin" or "useless jg" you are getting a permaban...
Coming off of a 14-day ban, you'd get a permaban for that. Don't act like Riot just drops the ban hammer for chat offenses on a whim, toxic players work their way up to that point with consistent misbehavior.
...meanwhile for trolling the game you get nothing.
Are you absolutely, positively, 100%, without a shadow of a doubt certain about that? Because, surely, you realize there's evidence to the contrary.
There's eleven examples of players punished for trolling. Even one of those examples would be suitable to prove you wrong, but points are seldom proven on one example - nevermind zero.
So let's just sum up, what tool do people have against trolls in their team?
The post-game report feature and Support Tickets. They aren't immediately satisfying, but they're the tools that you have at your disposal.
Can they kick out a player and replace him with bot the way it's done in HotS?
The ability to kick players from a match-in-progress in League is a topic that's been done to death, and the consensus is that it could very easily be abused by premades and would cull off-meta strategies and people who, for whatever reason, happen to underperform in any given match.
Besides, a bot would do you no better than a troll in a PVP match. Don't ask for something you don't actually want.
Okay, so maybe what about the report?
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They must have got at least honor decrease for sure.... nope.
How in the world do you know whether or not someone had an Honor decrease? Are you breaking into Riot's servers and extracting information you're not supposed to have? Or are you just throwing out assumptions in the hopes that it'll suffice as an argument?
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Mocking players for withholding judgement for lack of reliable information doesn't serve to reinforce your point. By default, we tend to err on the possibility that a player had a bad game because people are known to be petty jerks who'll try to pen the blame on someone else and vilify them in any way they can - and in League, that typically involves painting someone as a troll so they can act like someone went out of their way to ruin their game, when in fact they just got outskilled and had their ass thoroughly handed to them.
I'm creating this post because each time we are having an argument about that, you always say the same thing all over again, ALWAYS!
And this post only furthers the stereotype that we try to avoid validating by saying that. Yes, you may well have run into a troll, but is anybody going to give a damn if you start slinging mud because people don't immediately assume foul play on every low score?
Frankly, I wouldn't. The moment you start pulling that derisive alternating caps case, you lose any vestige of good faith in your post.
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Aren't boots unique, unstackable items now, or am I just conflating the Tear-stack change a while ago with being only able to buy one boots item?
Regardless, obvious cases of trolling tend to get punished faster. Building useless/detrimental items is pretty easy to notice, which, to my knowledge, is why it's not seen all that often.
Trolling exists and Riot does very little to help people fight it.
The fight against trolls is a war on two fronts - and, whether you believe it or not, Riot is doing their damnedest on their end. The other end belongs to us players, and frankly, the community does a poor job of it. Crying "wolf" over pugs, and raising arguments over how trolls are dealt with and how we should respond to them - like right now, even - doesn't help Riot catch trolls any faster.
I have to wonder why people take that stretch of logic, where having difficulty doing something equates to not actually doing it. Have I ever actually played Dark Souls, then, given how difficult of a game it is? Did I really actually beat For Honor on Realistic difficulty, or, did it not actually happen because it was difficult?
I will never understand that line of thinking.
But I guess it is fair to permaban people for saying "useless yasuo 0/10"...
If they just got off of a 14-day ban and continue to belligerently harass their teammates, it's absolutely more than fair that they get permabanned.
...although you can always mute them...
Having a mitigation tool does not change that the misbehavior being mitigated is, say it with me now, against the rules you agreed to upon creating an account to begin with.
...but it is not fair to ban people for trolling because "maybe they had a bad game".
If there is the possibility that they didn't intend to play poorly, if it cannot be proven without a shadow of a doubt that they intended to sabotage the game, then Riot must stay their hand.
Intent is the operative factor in gameplay-related punishments, not score, not builds; intent. The other factors may contribute to figuring out the intent, but they are not in and of themselves concrete evidence of misbehavior.
...now I know that whenever I'm suiciding into enemy team and throwing the match.... I'm just having a bad game. I also know that building mikaels on teemo and having 1/14 stats is the way ;)
If you do troll, don't expect any sympathy from us when it inevitably comes back to bite you.
Hey OP,
