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Why am I punished for this. How is this toxic. 2 week suspension for this shit.

orangetakeover·1/27/2020, 3:20:02 PM·1 votes·2,916 views

Just played a game of Aatrox and my jungler Ekko wants a leash on topside red buff. I say in chat I don't really like leashing top since he would probably path bot and never interact with my lane. But I leash him anyway and just like I say, he paths botside. The enemy Olaf knows to level 3 gank my ass tho right? So I'm then forced to tp away and Shen freezes the lane so I'm basically fucked. So I go into all chat and say "Leashing top is bait, junglers start top and never interact with your lane." Ekko calls me toxic and says he's muting me.

Fast forward to 9 minutes Ekko finally decides to gank my lane. We kill Shen and he immediately comes in chat and says "Stop fucking crying now"

I just don't get this. Am I not allowed to criticize a player in this game anymore? Is simply pointing out his mistakes considered toxic, but him telling me to stop crying isn't?

And then my support Senna is watching my lane all game to spam ping every skillshot I miss (w's and q's). When I defend myself and say I can't land every skillshot I throw at him and how a Senna player wouldn't know about that, he then also says I'm toxic and that I'm muted. What the actual fuck? So I get flame pinged and when I defend myself I'm toxic? I didn't point out his score, I didn't watch his lane to see the mistakes he was making. I did nothing but defend myself saying I can't hit every skillshot. How is that toxic?

At this point I feel like I'm targeted just because I'm an Aatrox player. I just got done with a fucking 25 game chat restriction the day before yesterday because I was vocal about how broken Ornn is as a champion. At this point, whenever I play this game again I will permanently have my chat disabled and fucking ignore all pings in the game. Since anything I type is considered toxic. Remove this post, permaban my account, fucking find my IP and come assassinate me, I really don't give a fuck. I've had people call be a "r%%%%%ed %%%" reported them and never get back an instant feedback report. The other day I played a game of ARURF as Ekko and the Karma on the enemy team literally called me the hard r. I personally went to the "report a player" site and reported him AGAIN and it said we've seen this report already or some BS. Yet I check his account and he's still playing games? But I say in all chat "Ornn players are cringe." and I'm toxic? I can search the Master Yi player who called me the "r%%%%%ed %%%" comment and still see that he's playing games. But aye we banned that toxic Aatrox player who called an Ornn player cringe.

Logs for whoever cares. Logs always looks toxic when you have no context of what other people are saying huh. This game is such a joke man.

Game 1 In-Game orangetakeover: Wait orangetakeover: Its actually real@? orangetakeover: ah orangetakeover: I dont really like leashing top orangetakeover: Since you would path bot orangetakeover: and never interact with top orangetakeover: Just as I said orangetakeover: Olaf is topside at three mins orangetakeover: But my jungler is bot orangetakeover: Not getting anything orangetakeover: The joys of toplane orangetakeover: I mean orangetakeover: You better get a lead orangetakeover: My lane is fucked orangetakeover: Quite depressing honestly orangetakeover: No dive? orangetakeover: Free kill orangetakeover: Toplane is fun orangetakeover: Leashing top is a bait orangetakeover: Literally just asks for a leash then never interacts with the lane orangetakeover: It only took 9 minutes orangetakeover: wait orangetakeover: so Im toxic? orangetakeover: How tho orangetakeover: Olaf level 3 ganks my lane orangetakeover: forcing me to tp away orangetakeover: but when I get upset orangetakeover: Im the toxic one? orangetakeover: So weird orangetakeover: How taht works orangetakeover: Really interesting play by olaf orangetakeover: So here if I was really toxic orangetakeover: I would spam ping your r orangetakeover: But jungle players are so privilaged orangetakeover: Everyone has to give everything to you orangetakeover: and then a support player is commenting on my lane orangetakeover: This game orangetakeover: Is such a joke orangetakeover: I haven't said anything about how your lane is going orangetakeover: maybe pay more attention to your own game orangetakeover: And that's what a skillshot is orangetakeover: It misses sometimes orangetakeover: I know a senna player wouldnt know orangetakeover: about that tho orangetakeover: And there it is orangetakeover: I get muted orangetakeover: For what orangetakeover: This game orangetakeover: and its community orangetakeover: is such a joke orangetakeover: Mute aatrox tho orangetakeover: Toxic player orangetakeover: For defending himself orangetakeover: After being flamed orangetakeover: For missing a skillshot orangetakeover: I miss a skillshot orangetakeover: On shen orangetakeover: Senna immediately starts flaming orangetakeover: I defend myself orangetakeover: im toxic orangetakeover: Interesting how that works orangetakeover: It is just because of the champ orangetakeover: Im playing orangetakeover: Just hate aatrox players orangetakeover: Everyone in this game orangetakeover: Hates aatrox players orangetakeover: I simply said hey I dont really want to leash top since you will path bot and never interact with my lane again orangetakeover: And that's exactly what happened orangetakeover: Once orangetakeover: Like man toplane is such a joke orangetakeover: Olaf immediately ganks my ass level 3 orangetakeover: Forces me to tp away orangetakeover: And I get nothing orangetakeover: For leashing top orangetakeover: Reported for what? orangetakeover: Criticizing a player? orangetakeover: We're not allowed to that anymore? orangetakeover: I can criticize your pathing orangetakeover: if i want to orangetakeover: Why did you start top orangetakeover: if you weren't going to gank top orangetakeover: It is 0 hassle to botlane orangetakeover: To leash orangetakeover: It fucks me to leash top orangetakeover: Then when I get upset orangetakeover: im the toxic one orangetakeover: Who the fuck is hashinshin orangetakeover: WHO orangetakeover: So funny calling an Aatrox player hashinshin bro! orangetakeover: Yeah we know to spam ping me tho orangetakeover: Watch from a far then spam ping

23 Comments

Imperial Pandaa1/27/2020, 3:39:22 PM7 votes

You just came off a punishment, so you haven't exactly had time to show you are behaving properly.

You start with what can be considered passive aggressive. Continue to be passive aggressive.

If you expect Olaf or enemy jungle is going to do a lvl 3 gank, then ward or be safe. No matter what position you play, you shouldn't expect leashes, ganks, or roams. No one is entitled to one.

More passive aggression and mindless complaining.

Arguing, not simple disagreement.

Senna has a skillshot too. More arguing and passive aggression.

If you have no qualms about being assassinated for a game, you should probably consider seeking help as that is not a healthy mindset. If you don't enjoy playing the game, perhaps you should take a break.

NF Remilia1/27/2020, 3:30:51 PM3 votes

my jungler Ekko wants a leash on topside red buff. I say in chat I don't really like leashing top since he would probably path bot

With your logic , botlane shouldnt leash junglers too since they will path toplane? >.> But anyway , yeah you was negative and toxic. If you already had 10 and 25 games chat restriction then the next is 14 days. Sorry but the next ban is gonna be pernament. If i was you i would change my behaviour in order to keep my account.

M1stry1/27/2020, 3:39:35 PM3 votes

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Kuthillick1/27/2020, 3:38:28 PM2 votes

I mean yes. If a jungler starts at a top side camp as their first camp, they will path bottom initially. That's how jungle pathing usually works. You should help leash not because you are going to get something out of it but because it will allow your jungler more agency and allows them to be healthier when they gank somewhere, go for scuttle, invade, etc. Don't help a teammate for pretty much free just because YOU'RE going to get something out of it. Do it for the team. It's a team game.

PresBushDid7111/27/2020, 3:38:12 PM2 votes

You JUST came off a 25 game chat restriction for complaining, and you spend this entire game using chat to complain. You whine about something that happened 3 mins into the game for the entirety of the game. Frankly if you are just going to complain and whine all game for top leashes; don't top leash. You weren't banned for being an Aatrox player. You were banned for the same thing you were previously punished for... negativity,

Chinesus Chryst1/27/2020, 8:28:13 PM2 votes

You are correct this is not toxicity, perhaps annoying but not toxic.

orangetakeover: This game orangetakeover: Is such a joke

This right here is your problem, you dared to criticize a game owned by china. Riot owned by china and any criticism is met with death.

Yin Yang Taoist1/27/2020, 7:37:06 PM2 votes

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Just played a game of Aatrox and my jungler Ekko wants a leash on topside red buff. I say in chat I don't really like leashing top since he would probably path bot and never interact with my lane. But I leash him anyway and just like I say, he paths botside. The enemy Olaf knows to level 3 gank my ass tho right? So I'm then forced to tp away and Shen freezes the lane so I'm basically fucked. So I go into all chat and say "Leashing top is bait, junglers start top and never interact with your lane." Ekko calls me toxic and says he's muting me.

Fast forward to 9 minutes Ekko finally decides to gank my lane. We kill Shen and he immediately comes in chat and says "Stop fucking crying now"

I just don't get this. Am I not allowed to criticize a player in this game anymore? Is simply pointing out his mistakes considered toxic, but him telling me to stop crying isn't?

And then my support Senna is watching my lane all game to spam ping every skillshot I miss (w's and q's). When I defend myself and say I can't land every skillshot I throw at him and how a Senna player wouldn't know about that, he then also says I'm toxic and that I'm muted. What the actual fuck? So I get flame pinged and when I defend myself I'm toxic? I didn't point out his score, I didn't watch his lane to see the mistakes he was making. I did nothing but defend myself saying I can't hit every skillshot. How is that toxic?

At this point I feel like I'm targeted just because I'm an Aatrox player. I just got done with a fucking 25 game chat restriction the day before yesterday because I was vocal about how broken Ornn is as a champion. At this point, whenever I play this game again I will permanently have my chat disabled and fucking ignore all pings in the game. Since anything I type is considered toxic. Remove this post, permaban my account, fucking find my IP and come assassinate me, I really don't give a fuck. I've had people call be a "r%%%%%ed %%%" reported them and never get back an instant feedback report. The other day I played a game of ARURF as Ekko and the Karma on the enemy team literally called me the hard r. I personally went to the "report a player" site and reported him AGAIN and it said we've seen this report already or some BS. Yet I check his account and he's still playing games? But I say in all chat "Ornn players are cringe." and I'm toxic? I can search the Master Yi player who called me the "r%%%%%ed %%%" comment and still see that he's playing games. But aye we banned that toxic Aatrox player who called an Ornn player cringe.

Logs for whoever cares. Logs always looks toxic when you have no context of what other people are saying huh. This game is such a joke man.

Game 1 In-Game orangetakeover: Wait orangetakeover: Its actually real@? orangetakeover: ah orangetakeover: I dont really like leashing top orangetakeover: Since you would path bot orangetakeover: and never interact with top orangetakeover: Just as I said orangetakeover: Olaf is topside at three mins orangetakeover: But my jungler is bot orangetakeover: Not getting anything orangetakeover: The joys of toplane orangetakeover: I mean orangetakeover: You better get a lead orangetakeover: My lane is fucked orangetakeover: Quite depressing honestly orangetakeover: No dive? orangetakeover: Free kill orangetakeover: Toplane is fun orangetakeover: Leashing top is a bait orangetakeover: Literally just asks for a leash then never interacts with the lane orangetakeover: It only took 9 minutes orangetakeover: wait orangetakeover: so Im toxic? orangetakeover: How tho orangetakeover: Olaf level 3 ganks my lane orangetakeover: forcing me to tp away orangetakeover: but when I get upset orangetakeover: Im the toxic one? orangetakeover: So weird orangetakeover: How taht works orangetakeover: Really interesting play by olaf orangetakeover: So here if I was really toxic orangetakeover: I would spam ping your r orangetakeover: But jungle players are so privilaged orangetakeover: Everyone has to give everything to you orangetakeover: and then a support player is commenting on my lane orangetakeover: This game orangetakeover: Is such a joke orangetakeover: I haven't said anything about how your lane is going orangetakeover: maybe pay more attention to your own game orangetakeover: And that's what a skillshot is orangetakeover: It misses sometimes orangetakeover: I know a senna player wouldnt know orangetakeover: about that tho orangetakeover: And there it is orangetakeover: I get muted orangetakeover: For what orangetakeover: This game orangetakeover: and its community orangetakeover: is such a joke orangetakeover: Mute aatrox tho orangetakeover: Toxic player orangetakeover: For defending himself orangetakeover: After being flamed orangetakeover: For missing a skillshot orangetakeover: I miss a skillshot orangetakeover: On shen orangetakeover: Senna immediately starts flaming orangetakeover: I defend myself orangetakeover: im toxic orangetakeover: Interesting how that works orangetakeover: It is just because of the champ orangetakeover: Im playing orangetakeover: Just hate aatrox players orangetakeover: Everyone in this game orangetakeover: Hates aatrox players orangetakeover: I simply said hey I dont really want to leash top since you will path bot and never interact with my lane again orangetakeover: And that's exactly what happened orangetakeover: Once orangetakeover: Like man toplane is such a joke orangetakeover: Olaf immediately ganks my ass level 3 orangetakeover: Forces me to tp away orangetakeover: And I get nothing orangetakeover: For leashing top orangetakeover: Reported for what? orangetakeover: Criticizing a player? orangetakeover: We're not allowed to that anymore? orangetakeover: I can criticize your pathing orangetakeover: if i want to orangetakeover: Why did you start top orangetakeover: if you weren't going to gank top orangetakeover: It is 0 hassle to botlane orangetakeover: To leash orangetakeover: It fucks me to leash top orangetakeover: Then when I get upset orangetakeover: im the toxic one orangetakeover: Who the fuck is hashinshin orangetakeover: WHO orangetakeover: So funny calling an Aatrox player hashinshin bro! orangetakeover: Yeah we know to spam ping me tho orangetakeover: Watch from a far then spam ping

All I see is talking a whole lot. I don't think that this deserves a 2-week suspension.

Reading further - I mean, you can't really criticize anyone and you actually typed that you were. You can spam ping the shit out of people like the Senna did. If she pings you when you miss skillshots, you do the same. Or just mute everything if you dislike it and don't indulge in it yourself. [slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

Also, you don't have to leash the Ekko or any jungler top. There is no punishment if you refuse to leash. You can play any way that you want to but criticizing isn't allowed because it can offend people. And anyone offended or uncomfortable with what you have to say can report you for it. Which in turn could get you on the desk for a review. Another point to note for future reference, do not argue. Even arguing can lead to getting punished and you're already 2-week suspended. [sg-jinx]

Look, if your lane was frozen because of a gank from Olaf and Ekko refused to help. Don't complain, just take Ekko's jungle or push to break the freeze. You die? That's not your problem but the team's. If they whine about it, say that you asked for help earlier. Remember, you have to think thrice before you type. Don't type anything that can be taken as 'Negative'. Even stating some facts which might be true but 'Negative' can get you punished. For example, pointing out someone's KDA, deaths. Now, back to your lane issue there - The alternative was sitting at your turret or just taking Ekko's jungle, right? So deal with it by action, not speech.

If Senna is harassing you with pings, either mute her or just ping back when she misses out on stuff. Now, I'm not encouraging you to harass anyone or start with harassing anyone with pings but if you have to and are on the verge of typing something to them and they have been spam pinging you then you can do the same to them. Please don't start spam pinging teammates, it will tilt them. You will put yourself in a bad spot if you initiate this. To conclude, you don't have to type stuff to get back at someone being a jackass. [draven-pose]

Another thing to watch out for. You're playing Flex Q. And in Flex, people are grouped together like the Senna, Ekko and the MF may have been. So when you offend one guy, others are going to definitely pick on you and things aren't going to look too bright. That's how you probably got 3+ reports for it. So either mute them completely, don't type and play your game. Or just go on a Solo lane push rampage, do some PVE with Ekko's jungle and pretend that you're a Tryn on a split-push mission if you can't handle your teammates being toxic. Of-course, you will likely lose the game but if the alternative was getting a perma. by typing something then do this instead. Or just get off the game, turn off your computer and take a break. [katarina-love]

No one can force you to play the game. An odd-AFK or Leave because you simply can't handle toxic teammates is excusable as opposed to typing something back to them which can get you perma'd. As long as you don't make a habit out of it! Good luck, OP. [galio-happy]

Tele II1/30/2020, 12:44:33 AM1 votes

So you admit the logs look toxic, and only in context of what they were saying to you would they seem less toxic? Well there you go. Thats why you were punished. Because there is no context that the rules state it is okay to break the rules in. So now that you know that, it should be easier to avoid that impending permaban. Just know there are NO stipulations in the rules that allow you to break said rules. So next time you feel the urge to argue with some anonymous stranger, realize that you are then breaking the rules alongside them. Just report them instead of contributing to the chat war. Its how most people prefer their games. Focus on the game, not arguing with strangers. Ill go on social media if I want to see that.

Bulshlaka1/27/2020, 3:36:24 PM1 votes

you wrote a novel there bud bans occur on the following 3 conditions

1: high report rate in the last 100-300 games (im not sure if it was 100 or 300) 2: actually being toxic 3: very specific feeding criteria that rarely do anything as people are very capable of masking their inting

if you are writing novels every game i wouldn't be surprised if you got a few reports over the last 100 games

my report rate when i last looked at my acc info was something like 12% which is quite low i think it takes around 30 or 50% for the system to flag you for a ban based on rate alone

LovroZelje1/29/2020, 7:05:13 PM1 votes

I know how you fell and i to be honest i don't think this is a deserved ban because u tried to go for a passive conversantion and then u lost ur cool like I did and i got ban, but i sweared a lot for braindamaged players...

Kei1431/27/2020, 3:28:12 PM1 votes

Well, looks like you already have a solution, so how about you use the rant boards?