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Isn't placing toxic people among other toxic people counter productive? (Warning: Rant)

concert clown·8/14/2018, 9:47:40 PM·1 votes·2,292 views

EDIT 2: Sorry, I didn't know Riot doesn't do what I thought they did. Good to know it's just bad luck and I'm not going crazy.

EDIT: I should say I really am trying to work on my behavior, but it's not very forgiving when every game I've played today has had a complete jerk on it.

In all honesty, I'm getting the most toxic people I've met in my entire life in these games. I don't know if that has to do with me being dishonorable or what, but it's honestly quite infuriating and only makes me want to be more toxic.

My earlier game I got inted for taking one siege minion and I feel bad for the 2 other players that were still trying to win, but he and his duo could not give a single fuck about anybody else in that game except themselves.

My most recent game everybody on my team was a piece of shit. My mid lane banned my top laner's pick because it was a troll pick (Shyvana). About 2 minutes in I get flamed for not warding river by my ADC even though I had already used my ward earlier, and I messed up sums and got flamed by my jungle for calling the wrong summoners. Then about 5 minutes later the jungle takes like 3 minions and the ADC says don't tax me and the jungle calls him an egotist ironically enough when everyone in that game was acting like entitled children. Towards the end of the game, the top laner starts to call everyone on the enemy team trash and terrible at the game because he did so well. To top it all off I had to play Kassadin support because when I asked to trade with the mid he was like no I don't want to play Kassadin anymore.

How can you put me with people like this and expect me to not flame them? I wanted to run it down mid at 10 minutes just to stop playing with these complete ass holes, and I haven't inted in 4 years.

I get that it might be a temporary solution, but I feel like it'd be far better to make people feel bad about their actions instead of just placing them with ass holes of equal level. Maybe put a stupid thing around their name or something. Put "musky" in front of their name or something (nobody wants to be known as the "musky momfker123" guy) I don't care, but the current solution is absolutely horrid and solves no problems.

tl;dr: The current way of fixing toxic attitudes doesn't fix anything and to actually fix toxic behaviors it should be known to all players that some guy was being an ass hole recently and it should be shown in a demeaning way.

P.S. While we're on this topic I think the honor system could act in a certain way too, not just by having "wow cool little banner thing before game if I get honored," but like something that actually is visible when a player is super sportsmanlike.

11 Comments

Sona Ping8/14/2018, 9:54:12 PM4 votes

"Isn't placing toxic people among other toxic people counter productive?"

That is why Riot has repeatedly stressed that they have no desire to implement systems that would have such an effect when they are suggested.

disregardable8/14/2018, 9:54:26 PM2 votes

yes, that's why Riot doesn't do it.

just mute toxic people, they have nothing valuable to contribute to the team.

Aneirin8/14/2018, 9:54:55 PM2 votes

I get that it might be a temporary solution, but I feel like it'd be far better to make people feel bad about their actions instead of just placing them with ass holes of equal level.

Toxicity/honour doesn't affect matchmaking. While it sucks that you've had several toxic teammates lately that's just a run of bad luck, not anything Riot is doing. They've always stated they're against the "Prisoner's island" punishment system which is what you describe.

concert clown8/14/2018, 9:56:40 PM1 votes

Okay, well it's good to know that it's just bad luck and not because of my dishonorable. I am seriously still in favor for a system that shows visibly in lobby or in loading screen that someone has been toxic recently or is dishonorable.

HalcyonDweller8/14/2018, 10:17:32 PM1 votes

I agree that it sucks to get matched with toxic players, especially when you've been trying to improve your own attitude / tilt levels.

However, Riot doesn't go out of their way to match you with toxic players, they also don't go out of their way to not match you with such players. Just making sure you know that there's no prisoner's island type of thing going on. It's just bad luck that you're getting matched with players who act rude.

There's one thing that you can do, although it may be really difficult given how rude some of the other players in your games might be. If you can manage to be nice to people or at least not say anything passive aggressive or mean to anyone (even if people deserve it) then you can rest assured that you haven't done anything to contribute to the toxicity that surrounds you.

If you want to chat in more depth about recovering from toxicity and dealing with teammates just let me know, I've done a lot of thinking about it in the past and I do have some wisdom to share, it's just not 100% on-topic for this post, so I won't launch into it unless you want me to.