Players banning teammate's pick intent need to be addressed

The Deckowner·May 28, 2016·21 votes·1,784 views

Just had a in my team who intentionally banned our support's and said very inappropriate things about sona players. This is not ok, the content he said was not ok, his act of banning teammate's pick intent was not ok.

Rito please address this issue, intentionally trolling teammates in champ select is extremely rude and need to be punished.

(I have seem this a lot and I reported them all, as far no notification was sent to me saying someone is punished.)

44 Comments

TTK DreadnoughtMay 28, 20167 votes

One game the other day our jungler (fourth pick) banned our top laner's prepick (first pick). we asked why. "didnt want to fight it"

Really?

Soldier of 4JhinMay 30, 20161 votes

Was it ekko ban?

TTK DreadnoughtMay 30, 20161 votes

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Was it ekko ban?

no, our top laner was going to play Illaoi. they were first pick out of the two teams. but the last ban on our team banned illaoi with that excuse.

looked at their history, they only played against an illaoi twice in the past month. both times were over 3 weeks ago

Soldier of 4JhinMay 30, 20161 votes

Meh it happens all the time when I pick intent jhin mid all I say you just lost a free win

TTK DreadnoughtMay 31, 20161 votes

{quoted}

Meh it happens all the time when I pick intent jhin mid all I say you just lost a free win

yea, same thing when i prepick Illaoi.

BeMyFriendPleaseMay 29, 20166 votes

I always laugh when they ban your intent pick then want to report you for not liking your off-meta pick.

League of egocentric children ftw

Rand0mH3r0XMay 29, 20165 votes

Sometimes I'll pick Rammus mid, just to watch our team waste a ban on Rammus.

KrigjerMay 28, 20164 votes

It's a form of griefing your teammates, pure and simple. Anyone who says otherwise is a moron.

(This is different from banning an OP pick when the intent is at the bottom and first pick does not own said champ to trade. )

aj502 OneillMay 28, 20163 votes

Not really always the case - but you can bet the player that got their intent banned most likely will get butthurt about it, even if you give a reasonable explanation.

ErksuoMay 29, 20162 votes

How the fuck is it griefing, if im playing botlane i dont wanna play with some viegar support bullshit or whatever off meta pick you wanna play. You queued fill or support because you dont like queue times so im not gonna play in some bullshit lane thats gonna get destroyed by meta picks instantly.

KrigjerMay 29, 20161 votes

How the fuck is it griefing, if im playing botlane i dont wanna play with some viegar support bullshit or whatever off meta pick you wanna play. You queued fill or support because you dont like queue times so im not gonna play in some bullshit lane thats gonna get destroyed by meta picks instantly.

You can ban that Veigar and they'll just pick Ahri or Anivia. What good do you think you're doing by banning a single champion? If they want to make your game suck by playing an off pick, you're not going to stop them.

If my team wants me to play a tank and bans my squishy intent pick, guess what, I'm just going to pick some other squishy champion. The sooner you realize you don't get to decide what your teammates play, the better. Or you know, learn to fucking dodge.

ErksuoMay 29, 20161 votes

if they pick ahri or anivia guess fucking what they are getting banned not me for banning theyre shitty ass champion, becuase they are just pulling some DoToT shit and deserve to get taken out of the game

KrigjerMay 29, 20161 votes

if they pick ahri or anivia guess fucking what they are getting banned not me for banning theyre shitty ass champion, becuase they are just pulling some DoToT shit and deserve to get taken out of the game

Playing an off meta pick is not bannable. You can report it all you want, but in the end it is NOT bannable. Keep thinking that though. ^^

Remlap1223May 29, 20163 votes

It's pretty simple. You ban a champion that your teammate wants to play, and your justification isn't "I wasn't paying attention" or "The champion is super popular and you had zero chance of getting them", you deserve to be reported for greifing your teammate.

LycanoonMay 29, 20163 votes

Solution to Pick Intent being banned by a dumb, egocentric, piece of trash, scumbag team mate... #Dodge.

Go smoke a cigarette or whatever it is you gotta do while your dodge timer counts down.

Rand0mH3r0XMay 29, 20164 votes

Isn't that what you want when you banned my pick?

LycanoonMay 29, 20162 votes

I've never played a match with you...and I avoid Dynamic Que like it's got an incurable disease. Nice Try though.

Rand0mH3r0XMay 29, 20162 votes

Woah, I rarely need to quote, but you changed your entire post and added some. I was referring to the trolls I played with. I don't discriminate, a trolls a troll.

The DeckownerMay 29, 20166 votes

Why should we, the ones who are trolled, getting punished with LP loss and low priority queue, because some idiot decided to be an a**hole?

WoonStruckJun 1, 20161 votes

You are not a special snowflake. Them having different ideas than you does not make them an asshole. You thinking they're an asshole makes you inconsiderate, even if they may have been inconsiderate as well by banning what you wanted. There are two sides to every story.

If they have a personal reason for banning your intended pick, you should listen to them. If they feel they cannot trust a random with that champion, that is a legitimate concern.

If you play an inconsistent champion that relies on doing well early (kindred, graves, nid, etc), you should voice that you are experienced with them. Especially on weeks they are free if you're playing Normal Draft.

The DeckownerJun 1, 20162 votes

These excuses are just excuses, banning teammate's champion is strictly against Rito's rule and altho some situations they can be justified, more often than not they are just being a**holes. "I don't wanna see this champion" and "I want X in my team instead of Y" aren't proper justifications.

WoonStruckJun 1, 20161 votes

Not wanting to see a champion or wanting another specific champion instead are definitely not justified excuses.

However, if someone voices that they do not trust someone using a specific champion because they do not have fall-backs and are often mis-used, like Nid, Kindred, Graves, etc, I do not find that as invalid reasoning.

Not denying that most people do it just because they're assholes, though.

Again, I do believe a warning confirmation should come up at the very least, as it would solve a lot of issues at the cost of nothing.

The DeckownerJun 1, 20161 votes

just a side note, out of the champs you mentioned, Kindred offers priceless utility even when behind, Graves still do tones of dmg even when played poorly, Nid is the only one that requires really good mechanic skills.

WoonStruckJun 1, 20161 votes

Regardless of what they do, the lack of CC on all of them makes them a liability when behind.

Most Graves' do not know to abuse his early game strength, since he has very little pressure if you don't make use of it.

Same with most Kindreds.

Same with Nid, especially if they aren't speedclearing the jungle alongside that.

The fact that they can so easily be a liability if not played exactly how they are supposed to is part of the reason I'm so willing to ban them specifically. Especially since I see them fail more often than not.

The DeckownerJun 1, 20161 votes

if you watch LCS you will realize all 3 of these champions are top tier because of their fast clear speed, spammable mobility, and high dmg with limited items, and their early game power are tighted with their clear speed not map presence.

WoonStruckJun 1, 20161 votes

Meanwhile the majority of players are not LCS material and do not utilize these champions correctly. Just look at Azir.

People play these champs because they have a gimmicky early game that lets them get ahead easily. When they don't, or when you hit mid-late game, they have no idea what to do, and it is not fun to be in matches with those players.

71883083DEL1May 29, 20163 votes

I feel like Riot's PR doesn't give a damn, honestly. It's all about that net income of $ bro

Maximum MordeMay 29, 20162 votes

I'd just switch to trolling by intent picking cancer so you couldn't ban that. Either way, your match is gonna be a bad time if I feel like making it a bad time. The sooner you learn that you can't fight it without ruining the game, the better.

The DeckownerMay 30, 20161 votes

the problem is people actually think u will take that champion and they waste ban on it.

Eyyy its SogoleMay 30, 20162 votes

While I don't agree with the ''inappropiate things about sona players'' Think it's legit to ban out your own teammates.

BlueThingamajigMay 29, 20161 votes

I recognize that this is an issue, but until Riot addresses it, there's a really simple workaround you can do: Use your 'pick intent' on a champion that is NOT the one you want. Maybe choose one that has a similar playstyle, or go with a vague statement about your actual champion choice being better for the team composition.

It's like Matt Parker's recent video on mapping 3 indistinguishable dice to 2. There are several 'duct tape engineering' solutions that might not be pretty, but they work far faster and more conveniently than a perfect mathematical formula. Reference Video

NotSpecialDudeMay 29, 20161 votes

Only problem with false pick intents. It screws over teammates that fills the team's needed roles.

For example, I like to go jayce top, but if we don't have a tank I'd play as maokai or sion. If our jungle pick intend Sejuani and I was higher on the pick order, I would grab jayce. If the sejuani then picked yi then we would have a problem with team comp.

If you an't gonna pick what you intend to then leave it bloody blank. I hate both but the former is worse since it only hurts team players.

BlueThingamajigMay 29, 20161 votes

You're right on that last point, I failed to mention the option of just not selecting anything for pick intent. And showing Sejuani and picking Yi would be pretty rubbish, but that's different from showing Sejuani and picking Zac, or showing Sejuani and picking Amumu. All 3 have reasonably similar 'initiate into the backline and be disruptive' tanky playstyles.

If someone showed Sej and picked Yi, I'd be pretty miffed about it too, but I'd be (probably) fine if they showed Xin Zhao or someone and then picked Yi. The key thing to my argument there is the playstyle similarities between the champion "intended" and the champion chosen.

TrueNoxusMightJun 1, 20161 votes

this has happened to my friends and i more in the past 4 days then it ever has, people find a game, look when they have to go back on the game and go look at facebook or something, when they come back they either automatically ban a champ wich half of the time is a allied champ they have been sitting on or they wait till the last few seconds and "panic pick" as they like to call it wich is more frustrating because they were even looking at the screen longer,luckily i stopped maining one champion but its still very annoying and %%%%ish to ban an allied champ just because you are lazy, like you said half of the time my champ gets banned by a team mate they say the same thing you said "i dont want to fight one" even tho i have counters to my champions i play and sometimes im even first or second pick, its dumb, what my friends and i do and you can call this rude or whatever we either ban his champ or choose it before he does,wich results in him getting salty but its not like we care...

Nik NikersonJun 1, 20161 votes

I'm starting to think Riot giving those messages that someone they reported has been punished may be a mistake. I understand why they did it, and in a vacuum, it's a good idea, but now everyone wants to get them all the time, and get upset when they report someone and don't get it.

WoonStruckJun 1, 20161 votes

If you do not trust your teammate using a specific champ because they are risky, especially at your MMR, what's wrong with banning them? (kindred, graves, Nid, etc based on your comp)

However, a warning confirmation should definitely be introduced. There are no downsides to implementing one, and it will make sure that you second guess the ban for cases like what Technolians mentions.

When people banned Kass, it was both because they didn't want to play against one and did not want to play with one that fed early. Same with Lee. Same with Shaco. Same with Leblanc. It was not wrong then, it is not wrong now.

The DeckownerJun 1, 20161 votes

You can't trust someone to play Sona SUPPORT? literally one of the easiest champion mechanically and strategically? In a ranked game where free to play champions aren't allowed?

The Lucian literally said "you sona players are all whinny bitches" and "Play Alistar or dodge", how can you justify that?

WoonStruckJun 1, 20161 votes

I never said banning out your teammates is always justified. I said sometimes it is, and that you should consider that.

There will always be assholes, and there's no exception even in cases like these.

That doesn't mean that banning out your teammate is never valid, though. Sometimes its justifiable. Many times its not.

The DeckownerJun 1, 20161 votes

so what is your arguement?

WoonStruckJun 1, 20161 votes

That not every case of someone banning out your champ is a case of them being an asshole. Sometimes they have personal justifications, and they aren't always invalid.

Sometimes they are invalid reasonings. Sometimes they are not.

John 13 34Jun 1, 20161 votes

I just started a similar thread, about how I ban Taliyah when someone wants to play it support. Sometimes banning weak champions from your idiot teammates is okay. Any associated trash talk, however, is not.

ZedOrBruhAug 6, 20161 votes

I wish that riot could make that you can not bann your team mate pick intent because its completely ignorant and rude to bann your OWN team mate champion. Saying exuses like "All Yasuo players are feeders and noobs" or like " Teemo is shit champion and the people who use him is trolls" is the most provoking shit ever and causes unrelevant tilt. At the very least check their winrate on lolking, you are worse than Donald Trump Taliyah saying all "Mexicans are drug users and they steal jobs". like cmon games was made to have fun but just now it feels like work and i have to spend 40 min of my life with you, acting nice.