People on this forum like to point out Nubrac deserved his ban, but them im also told that CS/XP Belongs to No one!!
Whenever I queue into ranked solo in plat, i play ashe support and take the cs but everyone blames me for losing every game and saying i will get banned.
Im getting mixed reactions
Edit: I really appreciate how people take the time to downvote but not add to the discussion. Such a great community
Nubrac did not just take CS/XP. Nubrac intentionally, without coordinating with his team, refused to play his assigned role of support instead playing some mix between jungle and multiple lane carry roles.
You will not get banned simply for farming as a support, assuming you are playing as a support. If you are intentionally attempting to let your lane partner die just so you can steal the kills, that may be something that would factor into a decision. Similarly, if you are attempting to tank to let your partner escape, if you are building items that have utility (ex: cc, slows, heals, armor shred, etc) then that would be a positive.
Griefing/trolling decisions in cases that are not blatantly obvious (ex: someone running it down one lane all game) are not based on one or two behaviors - the players’ behavior as a whole, through out the entire game (and many times multiple games) is evaluated and a determination is made as to whether the player is acting maliciously or not.
Edit: I really appreciate how people take the time to downvote but not add to the discussion. Such a great community
Is anything today not going to upset you? You're spamming the board with posts and then jumping on everyone who replies to you if you don't like their replies. Ignore people you don't agree with. Ignore up/downvotes. They're meaningless.
Edit: I really appreciate how people take the time to downvote but not add to the discussion. Such a great community
people can see how you've been responding all dam day to those who dont echo your nonsense and they dont want to bother engaging with you, pretty simple stuff
Not going to downvote, but tempting as you don't seem to be looking for answers, rather just arguing position sans care for evidence.
However.
1st question, I think ashe supp taking CS might be bannable. The reason "off meta" is sometimes banned is that it puts you team at a disadvantage if they aren't made aware of it first thing in champ select. Champ picks, rune set up, etc are made with certain expectations. The "no one's CS" statement is usually in reponse to an adc complaining about a support taking ANY cs. It's a little more sketchy when the support is actively CSing (especially since some of the support starting items punish you for CS).
There's no concrete statement from Riot concerning what is bannable in terms of "off meta". They only recommend that if you think your strategy may require explanation that you do so first thing in champ select. Likewise, if you say your intentions and the team disagrees, and you still so it, this may become punishable.
Lastly, to the Nubrac situation. He didn't communicate his intentions in champ select or if he did he disregarded team feedback. Riot also found that his "off meta" picks had a high correlation to if a streamer was present in game. If one was, he tended to do "off meta".
The noncordination, coupled with the attention seeking attempts to rile up streamers, is what lead to punishment.
Edit: Should have read further as others covered Nubrac.
the entire nubrac and nightblu3 debacle has gone on long enough, riot banned both - effectively stating that playing off-meta is allowed as long as you are coordinating with your team and/or actively trying, or winning the game. while nubrac did say what he was going to do he did not coordinate with his team afterwards.
the other statement is that community outrage against a streamer can get him in trouble - but we already knew this.
if you are planning to play off-meta in ranked communicate in champ select to solve any problems they might have with it. do none of them want you to play off-meta? then play either on-meta or pick a different champ.
if anything practice off-meta strategies with a 5-stacked blind pick game, and see how it holds up. once the strategy is found to be performing good enough to be viable and consistent, go to ranked with friends or duo, or just negotiate with your team.
That's all.
You are getting downvoted cos your arguement is long over due.
You also don't have your facts rights.
Go through all the Nubrac vs NB3 threads and see why Riot punished Nubrac.
Perhaps people downvote without commenting, because a different comment already covered it. They dont wanna just echo points that are already made, and instead just upvote the points they like, and downvote the ones they dont. I dont see anything wrong with that.
When it comes to gameplay offenses, what it ultimately always comes down to is: Why did you do what you did?
Even intentionally dying can be okay... if you are doing it in good faith, e.g. by intercepting a projectile to save a more valuable member of the team. Inversely, however, pretty much everything is bannable if it is not done in good faith and instead is only done to incite negative reactions.
It's not hypocritical to say that it's not inherently against the rules to die 15 times in a game, while still demanding punishment for intentional feeders. Likewise it isn't hypocritical to say that nothing Nubrac did ingame was inherently against the rules, while still holding the opinion that he deserved punishment.
