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'First Time' Dilemma // Hardcore Hate

Master Noct·8/6/2017, 6:42:55 AM·2 votes·461 views

Aight. Simply put, why is it so hard to understand that people want to learn new champions?

[slayer-jinx-unamused]

I'll go by what JUST happened, for your info.

Alright, I had in mind playing Lux support, but then again, I wanted to be more varied in my champion choices. So I pick Thresh . Someone starts nagging about "there are no smart players in bronze (I'm Silver 5, mind you), that she always has to get the whole team in her ult to be good" blah blah, you know.

Game starts, I promptly say again "I'm first time Thresh, so yeah.", Rammus in my team says "lol bot gg", while Tristana helps me understand what I should be doing, and how and when, so that made me feel better.

A while in, I'm being ping spammed every time I miss a hook (because I'm used to Blitzcrank 's hook travel time being 2x shorter and faster than Thresh 's), while Rammus keeps commenting on me being bad. Whatever, "Rammus muted" (but I don't, because the best way to catch someone in the act, is to not be "present" but actually be), starts going on commentary about me being bad, and I should just delete the game, that I'm worthless and have done nothing (when I helped my Trist get fed early 2-3 kills), and then split for a tower.

Katarina gets insanely fed and starts roaming, so that was a good side to this game. Problem is, Rammus had more interest into telling me how bad I was instead of being useful and providing insight into how I'm supposed to do things.

So I asked the other team to report him as well, then he played the victim card, saying I wasn't taking his 'advice' and criticism and I'd never be good for taking it (mind you, 'I'm bad' helps me play better! -sarcasm-)

Around mid game 20-25 minutes, more ping spam constantly over every single missed hook I had, plus more "criticism" as Rammus called it (by calling me bad and giving no advice on how to properly pull hooks off).

So they want to /ff. I say no. Because I don't want to /ff. I want to keep getting the feel for how Thresh actually works. But that's too hard for Rammus to get.Katarina

Any who, later on (around 30-35), both Katarina and Rammus started going at it against me, because I'm not challenjour in low Silver with a mastery 7 on Thresh , mostly cursing, harassing, etc, towards me, trying to /ff still, with me and our Teemo not willing to.

Game ends, with us in defeat because the enemy DrMundo was steam rolling us, with Yasuo in tail.

I simply asked for people to report Rammus for his constant negative behavior and toxicity, then he ridicules me for even existing, and that I should stop fully playing because he's Master in the Bronze/Silver elo.

TL;DR: The Rammus acted like a huge dick and instead of providing real hints and tips on how to play, questioned my build path, made fun of any of my attempts of being helpful, and constantly harassed me the whole game with no provocation.

Why? Why does it have to be like this? Why can't people just keep their mouths shut if they have nothing constructive to say? I get it, "oh you should have just muted them", see I could have, but I care too much about this community to just let them be loose out their on their own, possibly ruining other people's games (and their 'first time playing [champnamehere]' attempts), maybe I care too much for my own good, but I'd rather be harassed that one last time and have people penalized and properly punished for it, than having that person making me miserable, and 100's more as well. I seriously cannot fathom what kind of advantage you could get from aggravating your own team, at the cost of making you seem something you truly aren't.

Come on.

If people want to try something, let them. And yes, bot games do exist, but what kind of practice is it when something just takes punishment instead of acting like a person would do in different situations?

I would understand getting pissed in ranked. But this was damn draft. If it's this bad in draft, it might only get worse in ranked.

I guess I was a fool into thinking some other person would care, but that's the problem...

Final word: Guys... Don't be dicks... If you wanna help someone new out, do it, if you want to make fun of them, don't, this game already has a bad rep as it, don't make it worse and keep your shit to yourself. Some people have enough to deal with in their lives.

Anyways, thanks for reading this much. I'd like to know if any of you had this happen, and how and why it did.

22 Comments

SecondAirbane8/6/2017, 6:49:58 AM1 votes

typical bronze game

this is why i tryhard in norms to get my mmr up shits fucking cancer ITS LITERALLY NORMALS WHO CARES LOL

I suck at Jhin8/6/2017, 1:00:32 PM1 votes

"Needs to get a whole team into his ult to be useful".

What kind of bronze is that?

One hook on right person and it's end of the game.

ValyrianBlade8/6/2017, 8:09:59 PM1 votes

Do not first time in ranked.

Why is this so hard to understand?

You go in to a normal draft game, first time something, tell them, and you may get some negative feelings but overall shouldn't have issues. People in normals, while often wanting to take it seriously, are okay with you first timing something. They understand that you care more about ranked and are playing in normals for the benefit of not throwing a ranked game. All they ask is that you try your best.

In ranked? People "understand" that you don't give a damn about your rank and are willing to ALSO sacrifice their chances at winning just to play something new. You've already established that you don't give a damn about them, so why should they care about your feelings? I'm not saying it's appropriate (it's not), but don't act like you're any better. You're doing something that 99% of players would not want you on their team if they knew you were going to do that.

ojusms4568/7/2017, 10:25:26 PM1 votes

Use the practice tool. Add intermediate bot/s and play for like 10-20 mins to get a feel. That's what i do on a new champ. Y jump into pvp?

There are tens of other things we can be doing to improve our lives but we CHOOSE to play league in that same time instead. The least we want is to not feel like our investment of time is utterly worthless right? Meaning we want WINS. So that we have that self justification and satisfaction after investing our precious time. I once had a singed top first time who went 0/9 in a RANKED. I was very verbal about it. I mean cmon man its a damn ranked match. Needless to say it was a loss and waste of time. So i can understand what ur teammates were going through when u came out with the "first time".

"Guys...don't be dicks". You could be a dick by ruining someones game right? Reason i say this is because some ppl actually make a lot of sacrifices IRL to get in more games. (Including me). I sacrifice my sleep for that 1-2 extra games. Heck its 4 am right now as im typing this here. We never really know what the other person has given up to be playing this game sitting behind our screens. We all stranger to the other. 1 persons dedication is another persons amusement. But i guess that is the nature of a team game where the players dont see eye to eye irl. I'm not saying this to insult u, im just letting u know why it is that ur teammates abused u. Many ppl will still jump into pvp first timing a champ, but atleast we can bring about a change 1 person at a time :)