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Toxicity VS Frustration

Zyzeran·8/10/2016, 7:32:17 PM·4 votes·1,153 views

What is Toxicity to you? Is it someone who constantly types in all chat "x 9 Y summoner" or "gg this X". Or maybe someone who after a 30 minute game is ready to throw in the towel and AFKs and starts bashing their team. Either or, it's really easy to see these people are just taking out their frustration on you or are deflecting blame from themselves and are thus being rude and ruining your game experience. Anyone can see they're toxic.

What is frustration on the other hand? It's easy to see when someone is frustrated if they're constantly trying and failing to do something in the game i.e. go for a kill, take a tower, or pick fights out of position. These players aren't toxic, but they aren't exactly helping you out either. However unlike the former group, they are far from your enemy. It's not your job to get them to calm down and get a hold of themselves, but it is your job to reassure these people that they are your ALLIES. Don't turn someone who's frustrated into someone who's toxic. It's really fucking easy to just put one missing ping over their head or add one snide remake into chat and get a reaction out of someone who's frustrated. DON'T FUCKING DO IT. You know who you are. Unless you're of the former group, and you WANT to piss them off and are yourself toxic. In which case I can't stop you in the first place. But if you find yourself in a situation, and you will because it happens in almost every game I play, where someone is clearly frustrated with either themselves, their allies or something else and they aren't doing well. Just tell them that teamwork is how you'll win, and they should just try to get back into the game. You don't owe it to them to listen to their life story, but just reassure them that it isn't a 1v9 game, otherwise it's a 6v4 for you. And if you're the stubborn type who refuses and the game was 1v9 for you already, then just don't say anything seriously, you don't need to throw your ego around because you're upset with someone else in the game. This is doubly true if you're the one who's frustrated. Being frustrated isn't a free pass to take your aggression out on anyone else in the game.

ON A LAST, BUT VERY IMPORTANT NOTE. And if you take away nothing else but this, please do so. KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO. SOMEONE WHO IS FRUSTRATED ISNT NECESSARILY TOXIC. If someone is voicing their FRUSTRATION, that doesn't mean they're toxic. It's that simple. Don't get a witch hunt going just because they're upset. IT doesn't help.

24 Comments

AllahThaGreatest8/10/2016, 7:37:05 PM3 votes

toxicity to me is being met with constant intolerance and disrespect. fore example, i asked someone for help and they tell me to piss off

Dragfin8/10/2016, 7:34:35 PM2 votes

Toxicity (AFK's/DC's, feeders, trolls, bad attitudes, non team players, no communication) causes frustration causes toxicity (chat). RIOT don't get it because they are not very intelligent common sense wise.

Billybaroo23148/11/2016, 5:48:13 PM2 votes

Problem is, people don't know toxic vs frustrated vs helpful because the trolls are out of control. People are on edge in game because the trolls think it is funny to try to flame their own team. "This Morg", "this Kled" "This lucian" is never a productive statement unless and rarely funny to most players unless it's because you 10/0. 0/1/1 and "this mid" from bot lane is rarely ment to be positive. Had a game not to long ago Pinged three times my mid was missing, even pinged danger on a prob course he was taking to go bot for a gank. They were over extended, and I was back buying, but pinged the MIA. Bot lane "ping missing" "I did, and danger" "no you pinged danger" "check the chat log" (trying to stop the useless discussion)....next response is "This Morg" just never positive. Continues to point at 5/2/5 and good cs they continuation of "this mid", "this morg" because people want to be funny and add whatever you want behind it breaks team down, and personally I don't want to help them anymore. THAT IS TOXIC.

Asking your team to ward X spot, or "Group and stop chasing kills into bad position before we throw" is not toxic, it's a fact that happens way to much. Team response of "you bitch to much" because you see a team come back from 25/15 to 28/30 because we have chased and taken 0 towers because they want to chase into unwarded jungles that turns momentum and game around IS NOT TOXIC. It's the fact of what is happening and costing the game. Just played last game where we refused to group, our ADC who was fed chased kills long enough that they caught up, got ahead, won game. We had 3 chances to take a tower and inhib and he left lane to go chase a kill. Asking to focus objectives over kills IS NOT TOXIC.

TL/DR: correct people don't know the difference between Toxic, helpful, frustrated due to BAD COMMUNITY and Trolls that think they are funny. Fix that, can then fix the chat part.

KEONIEPPE8/10/2016, 8:16:39 PM1 votes

Cant agree more riot doesn't care about how the game plays out other then afk. They only care about how many reports and the punishments even if it is out of context.

Zyzeran8/10/2016, 8:18:00 PM1 votes

What happened to me was I had a jungler who was neither helpful or were they feeding, they just did nothing. I asked them, to quote I said "nid, would you mind placing a pink for me there (ping)". No response to that. It's a normal mind you so I can't exactly expect everyone to be on their A game. And I was pissed off that I wasn't getting any help after I'd been repeatedly ganked, nor when I roamed and she was either doing her own thing farming, or just dead. Again. I didn't mention anything and the game just quickly went downhill. All 3 lanes fed and we were just getting nowhere. I said, and I realize I'm bad for saying so, that I don't want to play for another 30 minutes for 80 IP and a headache, so I'm down to surrender if anyone else is. It's a normal, it's nobodies promos, and nobody was doing well. I get that I'm wrong for wanting to surrender, but I really don't feel like a normal in which we ended up going 6:21 is really worth the "Never give up" mentality. If it was ranked, sure, but it's a normal, let's just forget it happened and move on to the next game. Nid chimes in, "Oh, I bet I can guess your rank". And I snapped and said, I bet I can guess how many times you ganked, or put a ward where I asked you, or helped anyone, or how many assists you have. We were both in the wrong, but I was ready to just leave that game alone and move on without ruffling anyone's feathers, but because I voiced how frustrated I was with her, she had the nerve to call me toxic for calling her out. Is nobody allowed to call someone out on THEIR bullshit? I know I'm far from in the right on this one, believe me I know, but don't antagonize me and then call me toxic. That's what you wanted isn't it, to get a response out of me. Why? Because it would vindicate you somehow? I was frustrated, and I wanted to surrender, I asked if anyone else was down. If you want to play, fine, tell me, shut up I want to play it out. I know it's rude and it lowers team morale. But it's not a fucking psych ward, we're not bomb techs, we're not soldiers, we're just people playing a game. Yet people seem to treat it like it's fragile and that a stiff breeze might get us all demoted to bronze 20 at the end of the match.

It's very important sure, but it's not as if morale is going to win us the game when we're nearly 20 behind by 20 minutes. There's a time and a place for everything. The option to surrender exists, if it didn't, I'd understand, but it exists for games like that and reasons like these. Don't give up when you think there's a chance sure, but if nobody is carrying, and you've already been outscaled, just move on. Don't frustrate yourself anymore than you have.

Morality Coach8/10/2016, 8:18:19 PM1 votes

Most toxic thing is to pick an off meta pick with sub 40% winrate when you are Bronze 5.

Being total dead weight and saying it's just a game. This should be bannable but these people buy most of the skins so they get hand held.

Ada Wong8/10/2016, 10:08:15 PM1 votes

Honestly its really "Frustrating" when your idiot jungler throws off your lane, first he comes in okay we barely won the fight he actually helped, Both times he didn't follow the proper jungling rule on either gank, but does it again but gets the enemy ahead +1 kill +cs because they do not pay any attention at all, and when your playing champions that have to work around a team based comp more its an issue....

This is when I flat out just give up /mute all, Turn off my frigging sound and play the game I just don't care its hard to care when one or more of your members are going to flat out troll you, then you don't have to put up with the bullshit or hear anything but the chances to win go down highly...

Although "Frustration" does lead to toxicity in many cases, unlike Over Watch where its more fun even in ranked, and you can change heroes whenever League, and such you are forced into a specific champion or hero after locking so its more stressful when you get players being who in your mind are flat out dumb, and there is nothing you can really do about it without changing to deal with the situation.

Itankyou8/10/2016, 10:52:42 PM1 votes

This 'post' is toxicity. Please stop verbally abusing me.

EvilDustMan8/10/2016, 7:34:49 PM1 votes

Voicing your frustration is demoralizing and highly annoying if you do it constantly, especially if it is about your own team.