So I was lucky and had my account unbanned - Why did I get rebanned for this?

Hard Carried·8/10/2018, 9:30:35 PM·1 votes·2,238 views

In-Game Hard Carried: 5 days til BFA Hard Carried: why didnt she die Hard Carried: i have red buff Hard Carried: flashed by accident lol Hard Carried: nami is beast Hard Carried: fizz ur more than half the teams deaths Hard Carried: u need to relax Hard Carried: we lose because fizz is inting Hard Carried: look at team deaths Hard Carried: this game was free Hard Carried: we lose because our mid laner is inting Hard Carried: he is more than half the teams deaths Hard Carried: what do u do at that point? Hard Carried: ur not Hard Carried: he literally is Hard Carried: 12 deaths is more than half of 22 illaoi Hard Carried: oh i didnt know ur retarded Hard Carried: whats half of 22 then Hard Carried: back up Hard Carried: dont die Hard Carried: turtle Hard Carried: turtle Hard Carried: fizz please Hard Carried: fizz Hard Carried: this fucking fizz ints again Hard Carried: please report fizz for inting Hard Carried: doesnt matter how well u play this shit game Hard Carried: always one retard that has to troll Hard Carried: gg report fizz guys Hard Carried: definitely report fizz for inting Hard Carried: i spoon fed him to start the game Hard Carried: he was 5/0 Hard Carried: even if we win this game, im still reporting this fizz for inting Hard Carried: end Hard Carried: end Hard Carried: report fizz for int thanks Hard Carried: yeah its fine our entire team reporting him dw

Is this really toxic? Our mid lane was running it down mid so I understand I spoke too much about it... but I get permanently banned for this?

33 Comments

ModThe Djinn8/10/2018, 9:35:21 PM17 votes

The first thing to note is that after an unban your account is on the thinnest ice possible.

Hard Carried: oh i didnt know ur retarded Hard Carried: always one retard that has to troll

This is definitely insulting, and calling things "retarded" is something Riot takes serious action against.

Hard Carried: fizz ur more than half the teams deaths Hard Carried: we lose because fizz is inting Hard Carried: we lose because our mid laner is inting Hard Carried: he is more than half the teams deaths Hard Carried: this fucking fizz ints again Hard Carried: please report fizz for inting Hard Carried: gg report fizz guys Hard Carried: definitely report fizz for inting Hard Carried: i spoon fed him to start the game Hard Carried: he was 5/0 Hard Carried: even if we win this game, im still reporting this fizz for inting Hard Carried: report fizz for int thanks

This is excessive and unnecessary player blaming and negativity. Everyone can see what is happening, and you don't get to turn the entire game into a dog-pile on one player just because they're breaking the rules.

HalcyonDweller8/10/2018, 9:57:44 PM7 votes

I'm going to explain it as best I can since I think I may understand why you were punished. I hope that this helps you understand too. I'm not here to talk down to you or to treat you bad for what happened. I just want to help you understand it the same as I understand it.

Here is a sample list based on what I see in your chat log that could have been punishable:

  • Threatening to report another player
  • accusing another player of being a troll (inter)
  • lobbying for multiple people to report someone
  • called someone retarded
  • repeatedly did the above things

First of all, lets talk about calling someone an inter:

Look at it this way, a teammate who is dying a lot is one of two things: They are either a troll who's inting to piss teammates off, or they're an innocent player who's just badly tilted and playing very very poorly. Now in either of these situations, lets look at what happens when you single them out and call attention to them.

If they're a troll, they want to piss you off. By calling attention to it, you're rewarding them for trolling by showing them that their efforts worked. Now tell me, do you think they will stop after you call attention to it? NO! They are going to do it more, because they could see that it worked and they will want to do it even more.

And if they're an innocent player who's miserable already, you're going to make them feel defensive, nobody likes being accused of something they didn't do. Dying on purpose to try to lose the game is a terrible thing to do. And someone who didn't do that is going to be very pissed off for being accused of doing that. Now do you think this is going to make them listen to you or the rest of the team or make them focus and play better? Hint: probably not.

Now lets talk about lobbying reports and threatening reports.

Reports don't stack. The IFS reviews the player you reported if the boolean variable for "reported" is true. This variable is like a light switch. You can turn it on, then your duo partner can try to turn it on by reporting them too, but it's already on. There is no need to report someone more than once, they will be reviewed just the same if it is 1 report or 9.

Calling for reports against someone or threatening to report them for their behavior is a way of singling a player out and making them feel targeted and harassed. And again, going back to what I said earlier about trolls vs innocent baddies... If they're a troll then they want the attention, so in doing this you're just giving them what they want and not actually making them stop, and if they're innocent then it's an incredibly abusive thing to do to somebody who doesn't deserve it.

And lastly lets talk about the word "retard"

In general it's already derogatory to call someone this. You obviously meant harm when you said it, and that by itself is pretty bad, combined with the other things it's definitely enough to earn a punishment.

All of that aside though, recently "retard" seems to be considered zero-tolerance language by Riot, so using it twice like this could result in a very harsh punishment all by itself.

disregardable8/10/2018, 9:41:45 PM4 votes

I don't understand how you thought this was acceptable.

didn't you need to show support that you understand the rules to get unbanned?

Umbral Regent8/10/2018, 9:34:17 PM3 votes

Hard Carried: oh i didnt know ur retarded

This on its own is enough to justify the ban. And it's there on top of you harassing Fizz.

Zombie Gerbil8/10/2018, 11:10:57 PM2 votes

You deserve it. The way you talk to your teammate is simply disgusting and against the Terms of Use. Just so you know, Riot will not be unbanning any accounts now, their experiment is over. Also, they will not want you to reform on this account either. Simply because they don't want you here playing their game. If you do make a new account, then you do not ever say the things you said here. Which part? All of it.

Jo0o8/10/2018, 11:05:31 PM2 votes

I really hope you weren't one of the people in the recent experimental reformation group.

The Nocturne God8/10/2018, 9:38:17 PM2 votes

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In-Game Hard Carried: fizz ur more than half the teams deaths Hard Carried: u need to relax > Hard Carried: we lose because fizz is inting > Hard Carried: we lose because our mid laner is inting Hard Carried: he is more than half the teams deaths Hard Carried: 12 deaths is more than half of 22 illaoi > Hard Carried: oh i didnt know ur retarded > Hard Carried: this fucking fizz ints again > Hard Carried: please report fizz for inting Hard Carried: doesnt matter how well u play this shit game > Hard Carried: always one retard that has to troll > Hard Carried: gg report fizz guys Hard Carried: definitely report fizz for inting > Hard Carried: even if we win this game, im still reporting this fizz for inting > Hard Carried: report fizz for int thanks

Is this really toxic? Our mid lane was running it down mid so I understand I spoke too much about it... but I get permanently banned for this?

Everything in bold is considered a high offense, rest were low to mid.

DuskDaUmbreon8/10/2018, 10:01:32 PM2 votes

Hard Carried: we lose because fizz is inting Hard Carried: look at team deaths Hard Carried: this game was free Hard Carried: we lose because our mid laner is inting

Hmm. I wonder why.

KVbqbFsC8e8/10/2018, 10:19:17 PM2 votes

You've done anyone who has a banned account a great disservice.

ModPeriscope8/11/2018, 9:34:29 AM1 votes

That's unfortunate. I was pulling for ya'll to keep your accounts.

BEST MEAT BALLS8/10/2018, 10:08:46 PM1 votes

are you the guy who was recently perma banned and got unbanned ??

PresBushDid7118/10/2018, 11:55:35 PM1 votes

Actually you can, kind o, perm mute yourself. If you goggle search unbind enter key lol you will find a forum post on how to do it. I did it when I got my 25 game chat so I didn't move to 14 day ban. It basically makes your enter key do nothing, which also means you can't call for ff or remake.