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Is Riot getting softer?

USAvsIRAN2020·1/19/2020, 1:07:26 AM·3 votes·2,810 views

Okay, I really don't understand this 25 game chat restriction for the life of me. First Game I was just talkin' trash to the enemy mid laner I was going against because he started talking shit to me. I really don't think I crossed the line anywhere. Maybe calling him a noob was toxic enough for chat ban? idk. I just dont understand because Riot has a loading screen quote that encourages banter. I just don't see how I crossed the line between banter and "extreme toxicity"

2nd game: I get chat ban for bitching about yasuo? I wasnt being toxic I just fucking hate that champ. How do I get chat ban lmao wtf. Also idk how I even get in trouble for that game in the first place when we had two players rage quit before 5 minutes into the game so it was a legitimate 3v5 lmao. We ff 15'd with 3 votes. But alright Riot. In-Game 20th Account Ban: ill have fun dunking on you 20th Account Ban: oh wtf 20th Account Ban: uh wut 20th Account Ban: lmao noob 20th Account Ban: using cheap tactics 20th Account Ban: kindred isnt adc 20th Account Ban: says silver 20th Account Ban: u dont understand do u 20th Account Ban: nice flash bro 20th Account Ban: dude calls someone bronze not realizing assassin < adc early 20th Account Ban: how are u behind me in cs 20th Account Ban: ez game 20th Account Ban: trist u had to have been like a pixel away from death 20th Account Ban: idk how u were out of range 20th Account Ban: kindred u lost lane just deal with it 20th Account Ban: youre losing this game kindred sorry 20th Account Ban: u r 20th Account Ban: u r 20th Account Ban: at least hes honest 20th Account Ban: such an easy game. thanks for the free win kindred 20th Account Ban: youre the one that played a ranged mid 20th Account Ban: nah he flamed earlier 20th Account Ban: so he deserves this 20th Account Ban: no i wont 20th Account Ban: i havent said anything bad 20th Account Ban: riot encourages banter and trash talk, just not toxic 20th Account Ban: ez 20th Account Ban: love a free win 20th Account Ban: lmao 20th Account Ban: u muted me? Game 2 In-Game 20th Account Ban: yas such a noob champ lol 20th Account Ban: zero skill require for yas 20th Account Ban: but gg mf ragr quit 20th Account Ban: But like honestly yasuo needs to be removed from game 20th Account Ban: why 20th Account Ban: ? 20th Account Ban: cuz yasuo requires zero skill 20th Account Ban: and is insanely op 20th Account Ban: its 3v5 lol 20th Account Ban: yo if u look at the score 20th Account Ban: thats what the team is right now 20th Account Ban: ok 20th Account Ban: i just called them 20th Account Ban: they said no 20th Account Ban: is yasuo not the most broken champ riot has ever created or nah 20th Account Ban: then why does every bronze player ever play yasuo 20th Account Ban: ive played like 3 kass games ever and thsi guy mains yasuo 20th Account Ban: so? 20th Account Ban: i said that cuz u were flaming me for my cs 20th Account Ban: i dont care bout this one 20th Account Ban: i just hate yasuo 20th Account Ban: for certain champs sure 20th Account Ban: yasuo tornado has a huge hit box 20th Account Ban: one of the hardest to dodge in game actually 20th Account Ban: ok go play mid then 20th Account Ban: im going bot 20th Account Ban: and? 20th Account Ban: u said hes easy 20th Account Ban: surefire phrase to get banned but ok 20th Account Ban: how? i just lost 20th Account Ban: me losing lane is less re*ortable than you falmign me all game 20th Account Ban: no it snot 20th Account Ban: complaiing about a champion being op is not

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Umbral Regent1/19/2020, 9:29:48 AM4 votes

From Game 1;

20th Account Ban: lmao noob

A mild insult, but an insult nevertheless.

20th Account Ban: kindred isnt adc 20th Account Ban: says silver 20th Account Ban: u dont understand do u

Detrimental arguing and rank-shaming.

20th Account Ban: dude calls someone bronze not realizing assassin < adc early 20th Account Ban: how are u behind me in cs

General negativity. Also, do you not find it ironic that you dismiss someone for being Silver, and then get onto someone else's case for dismissing someone for being Bronze?

Because I find that very, very ironic.

20th Account Ban: kindred u lost lane just deal with it 20th Account Ban: youre losing this game kindred sorry 20th Account Ban: u r 20th Account Ban: u r

Unsportsmanlike behavior, general harassment.

20th Account Ban: such an easy game. thanks for the free win kindred 20th Account Ban: youre the one that played a ranged mid 20th Account Ban: nah he flamed earlier 20th Account Ban: so he deserves this 20th Account Ban: no i wont 20th Account Ban: i havent said anything bad 20th Account Ban: riot encourages banter and trash talk, just not toxic 20th Account Ban: ez 20th Account Ban: love a free win 20th Account Ban: lmao 20th Account Ban: u muted me?

And the rest of the game proceeds with more of the same; being a sore winner and harassing Kindred, and getting into a detrimental argument.

Bear in mind, none of what you said throughout the match is banter. There's trash-talk, certainly, but you also cross the line into inflammatory behavior pretty readily. And no; regardless of whether or not they flamed, Kindred did not deserve you harassing them and beating them down over losing lane.

Sportsmanship > trash-talk. If most of your chat involves trash talk, you're probably doing it far too much.

Going on to Game 2...

20th Account Ban: yas such a noob champ lol 20th Account Ban: zero skill require for yas 20th Account Ban: but gg mf ragr quit 20th Account Ban: But like honestly yasuo needs to be removed from game 20th Account Ban: why 20th Account Ban: ? 20th Account Ban: cuz yasuo requires zero skill 20th Account Ban: and is insanely op

Excessive complaining about Yasuo, which is pointless and detrimental. I'm not sure what you expect to accomplish by voicing your opinions in-game, but whatever it is, you didn't get it.

And on top of that, negativity through calling an early "GG" and pointing out a teammate disconnecting.

20th Account Ban: its 3v5 lol 20th Account Ban: yo if u look at the score 20th Account Ban: thats what the team is right now 20th Account Ban: ok 20th Account Ban: i just called them 20th Account Ban: they said no 20th Account Ban: is yasuo not the most broken champ riot has ever created or nah 20th Account Ban: then why does every bronze player ever play yasuo 20th Account Ban: ive played like 3 kass games ever and thsi guy mains yasuo 20th Account Ban: so? 20th Account Ban: i said that cuz u were flaming me for my cs 20th Account Ban: i dont care bout this one 20th Account Ban: i just hate yasuo 20th Account Ban: for certain champs sure 20th Account Ban: yasuo tornado has a huge hit box 20th Account Ban: one of the hardest to dodge in game actually

And the excessive negativity just really doesn't stop at any point here.

20th Account Ban: ok go play mid then 20th Account Ban: im going bot 20th Account Ban: and? 20th Account Ban: u said hes easy

Like, there's not a single line in this chat log that isn't some degree of excessive, pointless negativity or detrimental arguing.

20th Account Ban: surefire phrase to get banned but ok 20th Account Ban: how? i just lost 20th Account Ban: me losing lane is less re*ortable than you falmign me all game 20th Account Ban: no it snot 20th Account Ban: complaiing about a champion being op is not

From the first line to the last, it's just non-stop complaining and bickering and arguing. If you need to vent, get a friend and ramble at them, don't spill your negativity into chat.

I just dont understand because Riot has a loading screen quote that encourages banter. I just don't see how I crossed the line between banter and "extreme toxicity"

A quick Google search should prove pretty enlightening on that front.

Banter noun

  • the playful and friendly exchange of teasing remarks.

verb

  • talk or exchange remarks in a good-humored teasing way.

None of what you said in Game 1 was good-humored, friendly, or playful. You were just insulting a player for the sake of rubbing salt in the wound when you beat them. That's neither banter, nor sportsmanlike behavior.

I get chat ban for bitching about yasuo? I wasnt being toxic I just fucking hate that champ. How do I get chat ban lmao wtf.

Well, to start with, you spent nearly half the match complaining specifically about Yasuo (12/32~ lines of chat), and the rest of the lines you spent complaining about the general state of the match being a 3v5 or otherwise arguing with your teammates.

If you hate Yasuo, talk to a friend about it or make a post in the RANT subforum. Or, if you can get into nitty-gritty details without being hyperbolic and point out flaws or issues in his kit that needs addressed, you could try your hand at Gameplay, but bear in mind that the standard for posts there is fairly high.

Nobody wants to play a match with someone who spends way too much time complaining about a given Champion being "OP" or "broken" or whatever else. That kind of negativity detracts from the game and makes your teammates not want to work with you - and when you're already down two of them, you're definitely shooting yourself in the foot by annoying the other two.

Also idk how I even get in trouble for that game in the first place when we had two players rage quit before 5 minutes into the game so it was a legitimate 3v5 lmao.

Other people breaking the rules doesn't give you free reign to break them yourself. Unless you can find a stipulation somewhere in the Code of Conduct that says "These rules are considered void if other players break them first", but I've breezed through it a couple times myself and haven't seen anything of the sort.

We ff 15'd with 3 votes.

Good to hear you at least got out of that match relatively early enough, but that doesn't change the fact that all of your chat in that match was exceedingly negative, pointless, and detrimental, and that someone reported you for it.

As stated above, there's no stipulations in the Code of Conduct that consider the rules void at any point or under any set-specific circumstances.

Kendren11/19/2020, 2:06:24 AM2 votes

Kendren approves of this chat restriction.

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xHeimtechZX1/19/2020, 6:52:11 AM2 votes

Game 2 seems fine. Hashinshin complains about champs all the time and he doesn't get chat restricted for it, he also types a lot. Maybe trying to go bot was what made them report you. Game 1, people might get annoyed by "ez" "noob" or just pointing out certain things like a person's cs or losing lane. Honestly, I wouldn't report this if I was in those two games. Idk, I'm very lenient when it comes to reporting. Like if you're playing Darius and you said to me "ill have fun dunking on you" then I'll be really enjoying that game lol. But yeah, just don't use the words ez and noob and you're probably fine. If someone is getting annoyed or someone is flaming you, just let off chat.

Kei1431/19/2020, 2:49:18 AM1 votes

There's a fine line between banter and harassment.

I personally would classify this as having 1 foot over that line.

However, if you did this over many games, it will probably will lead to a punishment, which is what seemed to happen here.