if you cant handle online chats then dont play online games

serko ex·5/20/2018, 9:23:27 PM·3 votes·1,755 views

i really dont understand this "toxic" shaming wave. what kind of shelter cyber bully crowd community is this? if you have a player playing like trash, goes negative 10 kda, support does more dmg, etc, someones need to tell him thats hes sucks. dont take it personal, just use it as motivation to get better. i can understand someones raging and using other as a scapegoat as "toxic", thats different. but when Player A goes negative 10, then Player B thats has a pefect KD has everyright to call player A on his poor play. This is not Chess. this is highly competitive game where players get caught in the moment. if you ever play any competitive sports in high school. its the same way. if you are costing the game, then you are going to get shit on. this dialogue of "toxicity" is a strictly online where you can be anonymous. I cant imagine a grown man whining about someone being mean during a match to one of their peers. ive been online games since halo 2 and the only thing that i cant tolerate is racial slurs. and guess what, I just mute them. /rant.

15 Comments

Chermorg5/20/2018, 9:30:24 PM16 votes

No, it's not. You play competitive sports in high school and start shitting on your teammates, your coach is going to bench you for at least the game.

Source - I actually played competitive sports in high school.


Ignoring that part of your argument, nobody plays a game for fun to get raged at. There's no coach, team captain, or boss here. You have no right to shit on others just because you think you're better than them. If you were really so much better than them, you'd be ranked much higher than them and not be matched with them.

Umbral Regent5/20/2018, 9:50:15 PM8 votes

if you cant handle online chats then dont play online games

If you can't handle online games with their own well-enforced rulesets, then don't play those specific online games.

if you have a player playing like trash, goes negative 10 kda, support does more dmg, etc, someones need to tell him thats hes sucks.

No, nobody needs to tell them that they suck. They likely already know they're on the shitty end of the stick, and don't need their team bearing down on them.

dont take it personal, just use it as motivation to get better.

That is the single least motivational thing I can think of. Maybe, rather than try to claim that insults and shit talk are "motivational", try to actually come up with something genuinely motivational to say? Because, if the only motivational thing you can think to say is "you suck", you don't know what motivation is.

And I know what's coming next - "well I always take it on the chin and prove the person wrong" etc. etc. - well, good for you buddy. You somehow translate insults into encouragement. That doesn't mean everybody else is capable of the same thing.

Some people (most human beings, really) need positive motivation. Words of genuine encouragement. Some rare few people (like yourself) can somehow subsist on negativity. Then there are those like me who motivates himself enough that nobody needs to try to encourage me.

Besides that, though, your negative "encouragement" isn't welcome in League anyhow. The game has rules against negativity and insults.

but when Player A goes negative 10, then Player B thats has a pefect KD has everyright to call player A on his poor play.

No, Player B does not. That's like saying you go to pottery class, make a crappy, lumpy bowl, while the guy next to you made a smooth, elegant pitcher. Does that mean the guy who made that amazing vase has every right to take a sledgehammer and demolish your work?

(the answer, by the way, is no.)

Just because someone is doing better than someone else doesn't give that first person the right to be an asshole.

this is highly competitive game where players get caught in the moment. if you ever play any competitive sports in high school. its the same way. if you are costing the game, then you are going to get shit on.

Competition does not itself breed anger or toxicity. They're not mutually exclusive, by any means, but they're not one in the same, either. You can have competition without someone throwing a nuclear-level shitfit. You can have competition where people aren't being assholes to each other over small mistakes.

Trying to use the competitive nature of a game as an excuse for people being assholes is a weak excuse.

I cant imagine a grown man whining about someone being mean during a match to one of their peers.

And do you see any grown men whining about that at all? 'Cause I don't.

On the flip side, I can't imagine a grown man complaining about rules in a videogame being enforced, but, I've seen a handful by now.

FOR JUSTICE5/20/2018, 9:40:08 PM4 votes

And if you cant handle being a decent human being, then you shouldnt be using online chat in the first place.

Your move mate.

VorpalKitsune5/21/2018, 5:36:25 AM3 votes

I think you misunderstand why people don't like toxicity in their games. It isn't, as far as I know, because our feeling were oh so hurt, though there are people that this happens to which is in no way a bad thing. It is because we don't want it. If I play like shite one game, I know I am not playing good. A person being toxic about it just doesn't help, in fact its annoying and distracting. I would much rather try to focus and try my best to do better, and not have the toxic stuff in game. To put it bluntly, it doesn't serve any function except for a person who has no self control to rage in a childish fit, and to distract your teammates from playing the game/doing their best, or muting you. Just my two cents.

Nagahasmyname5/20/2018, 10:48:13 PM3 votes

I used to rant in the boards, then I took a downvote in the knee.

Woodakoodashooda5/21/2018, 5:39:24 AM2 votes

Games have rules. Being verbally abusive towards others for ANY reason is usually against the rules of any game. If you do not want to follow the rules of the game then you do not have to play it; in fact, you shouldn't play it.

Gabresol5/20/2018, 9:58:37 PM2 votes

If you can't manage to keep your parts of an agreement you signed, do not play games with active developers. I advise you to valve games. They do not care if your murder somone while voice chat is on

serko ex5/23/2018, 9:24:02 PM1 votes

im going to go out on a limb and assume some of you are fatherless kids or no father figure in your life. i challenge everyone of you to go to your real life peers and start a discussion about toxicity. "this guy was being so mean to mean and it was distracting and affected my play and my enjoyment." come back here with your reactions. go find father figure in your life and learn to be a man.

Everytime i talk to someone about LOL in real life, its always the same shit. "i keep getting matched with trolls, trash players etc, so and so champ is op, afks, they need to nerf that champ, " i never hear once someone complaint about toxicity. toxicity is just a shield for these socially awkward trash players to hide behind.

thefourtysn5/20/2018, 9:34:12 PM1 votes

But when it comes to criticism for you, you'll probably get mad report your teammates :/

Tuition Fee5/20/2018, 9:40:54 PM1 votes

So, it's okay to wish terminal cancer upon someone for being bad in a video game? It's fine to use mental illnesses and eating disorders or wishing death upon their entire family when you lose a League match? Also, no one 'shits on' you for being bad at a high school sport. I do fencing and badminton, and often make many mistakes. Heck, once I accidentally stabbed my own team mate in the ass during a tournament as I was walking by, but still, no one told me to kill myself. I've hit my doubles partner in the face with a racket during a smash at regionals, and no one told me that I was a clumsy fuck. Why? Because I'm in front of them, and I can retaliate, instead of over the internet, where it seems a lot less scary and detached to insult someone like this.

Xidphel5/20/2018, 10:01:29 PM1 votes

If you can't handle speaking normally in online chats then don't play online game.

serko ex5/20/2018, 11:03:06 PM1 votes

thanks for the response. this is something i had to get off my chest. i never understood the mentality of LOL players. I honestly never heard of toxicity until I started playing league. every since i played online games, theres always been trash talking. maybe i got used to it and it just doesn't bother me as much. online gaming has become more mainstream with more fragile emotions beings. i dont think riot or the community should cater to them. i feel that those fragile emotions beings have taken over LOL. some are you using extreme example where i do agree should not be tolerated ex. racial slurs, kys, etc.

and lol @ whatever universe you are living in where high schooler arent acting like high schooler. and the coach benching someone being mean lmao maybe in little league...no pun intended