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GYLDA··4 votes·2,063 views

this board shouldnt be under "The Game"

it has literally nothing to do with the game league of legends but with the community, just look at any other game like counterstrike where you cant be banned for bad mouthing but you can get banned if you hack or intentionally troll.

If anything this should be under "Community" Because riot as a company has shaped the community to the toxic sludge it is today and their only mere attempt to get rid of toxicity is to just hand out bans via a system that is specially focused at those who say bad things and not to those who intentionally feed/troll.

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Hotarµ4 votes

it has literally nothing to do with the game league of legends but with the community, just look at any other game like counterstrike where you cant be banned for bad mouthing but you can get banned if you hack or intentionally troll.

Not really sure how that correlates, but alright.

I suppose it doesn't really matter where we are be it below "The Game" or "Community" because we fit in either section decently well.

Because riot as a company has shaped the community to the toxic sludge it is today

Uh, no.

At what point do the players take responsibility for their actions? How did Riot make us into "toxic sludge"? The rules aren't that bad, they're not overly strict, and they curb toxicity, not breed it.

captaincomando11 votes

At what point do the players take responsibility for their actions? How did Riot make us into "toxic sludge"? The rules aren't that bad, they're not overly strict, and they curb toxicity, not breed it.

Maybe rules aren't bad,but Riot incapability to implement them is obvious. They cant detect most of the trolls and intentionall feeders,but they program can detect when you flame... That is just one example how rules means nothing when you cant implement them... And That is my friend one of the reasons why Riot community is so toxic

GYLDA1 votes

get fricked! they did it because they listen to smart individuals!

look where its at now nerd

xoxox me

Hotarµ2 votes

Maybe rules aren't bad,but Riot incapability to implement them is obvious. They cant detect most of the trolls and intentionall feeders,but they program can detect when you flame... That is just one example how rules means nothing when you cant implement them...

Yeah, they can detect toxicity consistently and with ease because it's usually always a clear cut case. If someone types out a flagged word it's easy to match that to the word in your database and come up with a match, it's not like Riot is purposefully prioritizing flagging toxicity over intentional feeders, the automated system does it because it's the easiest thing it can do.

Do you know why some gameplay related offenses go unpunished? Because in 90% of cases the person's intention isn't always clear. Let's say you have a Master Yi jungle, he finished 8/15/15. Decent kill participation, moderate ward score, 2nd highest CS on your team, and got 3/5 dragons.

  • Is that person a troll? Are you sure? If so, how do you design an automated system to go through hundreds of millions of games and detect trolls without fail?

  • Is that person intentionally feeding? They had two deaths that seemed sketchy... but it might have just been a poor engage.

  • What if they just genuinely played poorly?

So you decide to make a decision.

  • Uh oh, you punished that player and it turns out they were just having a bad game, now they're not going to continue playing or spending money, they're also going to badmouth League so none of their friends try it.

#or

  • You go based off of the statistical evidence and let the player go. Now you have 4 people complaining about them getting an inter in their games and next thing you know they int out of frustration or AFK out of anger, they spread the word that Riot doesn't punish players for intentionally feeding and now 20 other people start doing it because why not?

Now obviously this is a bit of an extremist view of things, but it does happen more than you'd expect and my point is that it's not as easy as just flipping a switch. If there was an end-all solution to trolls, Riot would have implemented it by now.

Also, even though everyone on the Boards will disagree and probably downvote me for saying this, intentional feeders, AFKers, and trolls do get punished. Just because it doesn't happen as often as you like isn't indicative of Riot giving them a pass.

And That is my friend one of the reasons why Riot community is so toxic

The OP said Riot is the cause of toxicity.

Which is false, ignorant, and frankly childish to claim.

captaincomando11 votes

I agree that it is hard to detect trolls .And automatic system cant do humans job.That is perfect example.So what now?? Riot cant detect trolls ,so who should we blame???We should not blame Riot ,because it is impossible for them to detect and ban most of the trolls ...What should we do?Role over and keep playing and pretend everything is fine...

They cant even admit simple fact :" it is to hard for us to detect all trolls ,so we apologize to playerbase and those who suffer because of it,and if you have some solutions please share it with us.We want to work on this problem together" That statement would make things much better.Because in that case we would know that this is the company that respect their customers and admit their mistakes...And that is one way how you build good relationship and help in battle of toxicity. Instead they put this problem and problems similar to this under carpet and ignore them. That why Riot is full off shit ,and they cant admit their mistakes.They treat customers and even their workers(monte cristo is one example) like trash...That is why they will suffer in the long run

GYLDA1 votes

Hello "specialist"...

If you go to "Boards Home" you'll see that the "Player Behaviour" Is now under "Community" that means that Riot has tought or maybe even got inspired by my very wise, wise words.

Im now claming your title as a specialist.

As we say in the game... GG git gud

seya nerd

sincerely me

Hotarµ1 votes

I suppose it doesn't really matter where we are be it below "The Game" or "Community" because we fit in either section decently well.

"because we fit in either section decently well."

#"because we fit in either section decently well."

I specifically said it didn't matter. So if you could cool it with the salt, that'd be great.

Edit: Also, it's still under "The Game" for me.

Telephone Booth1 votes

Gotta admit, you got a point there xD

Just about being under community, that is. I dont actuallythink Riot shaped us. I think a culture of entitlement, outrage, and victimhood did this.

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