RIOT's REPORT SYSTEM!

Tappad Grabb·1/26/2019, 3:01:26 PM·2 votes·1,710 views

RIOT WANT YOU TO BE DEPRESSED AND A NPC.

You are not allowed to defend yourself or stand up for yourself if someone treat you bad!
If you do, then you are a bad negative player.


Examples:

You get flamed in a game for a misstake.

  • Ignore it and feel depressed, if you answear you will get reported. (Btw if you don't answear the player report you anyway) ** You get harased.**
  • Don't answear, you might get reported and banned. You can't defend yourself beacuse it's wrong! (RIOT's mindset) Someone are 0/15/0 in ranked.
  • Don't say anything, you will get banned if you would ask him to play more serious or give him advice with items.

Don't ask enemie team to report a player who troll

  • They will troll you and report you for being negative beacuse it's fun to mess with people who play ranked serious

[zombie-brand-facepalm]

25 Comments

Umbral Regent1/26/2019, 4:27:34 PM5 votes

RIOT WANT YOU TO BE DEPRESSED AND A NPC.

You are not allowed to defend yourself or stand up for yourself if someone treat you bad! If you do, then you are a bad negative player.

These are false statements. Riot doesn't want players to be depressed, and they don't want people to be "NPC's", whatever the hell that means.

You are allowed to defend yourself - by using the mute feature and the report feature, not by retaliating and flaming people back. Counterflaming accomplishes nothing besides adding yet another flamer for the rest of the team to deal with.

As for standing up for yourself - if you're not doing anything wrong, then there's zero reason to try and prove it to some random flamer. If some jerkwad is calling you an intentional feeder, "standing up for yourself" and railroading how you're trying your best and still getting beaten isn't going to do anything beneficial. It's not going to magically make the random jerkwad see the error of its ways - it's just going to put you both at odds and increase tension.

And besides, there's no reason you should be trying to prove shit to random people who don't like you and who aren't likely to be matched with you ever again.

So, yeah, if you start defending yourself or standing up for yourself by getting into internet arguments and flamewars, then yes, you're being a negative player.

You get flamed in a game for a misstake.

  • Ignore it and feel depressed, if you answear you will get reported. (Btw if you don't answear the player report you anyway)

For starters, let's just be perfectly clear here; you're mixing up "tilt" and "depression", when the two are incomparable.

Second; there are a fair few ways you can respond to a flamer that de-escalates the situation and doesn't put you in a position to get punished. You'd be surprised how easy it is to dissolve an argument without further agitating someone.

And, of course, this is all ignoring the very useful mute and report features. If someone flames you, mute them and report them post-game. Trust me, it works wonders.

And, lastly; if you don't respond to a flamer and they report you anyway...Guess what? You don't get punished. If you get reported but don't break the rules, the reports don't count against you, so who cares if they report you? If you're not feeding into their flamewar, their reports won't matter.

You get harased.

  • Don't answear, you might get reported and banned. You can't defend yourself beacuse it's wrong! (RIOT's mindset)

Again: The Mute feature is your friend. Block out harassment and don't let it get to you.

And also again: You can also defend yourself and dissolve a conflict without making shit worse. It's a matter of tact.

Lemme give some examples.

Example 1 Flamer: you're such a shit top lane, stop feeding, jfc Me: Says the shit jungle who doesn't know not to gank a pushed lane?

This is not defending oneself. It's flaming back. You do not fight fire with fire.

Example 2 Flamer: literally nobody's focusing vayne, wtf this team is so shit Me: Sorry that Vayne gets a little slippery when she ults and rolls all over the place.

This example deflects the blame without redirecting it to the flamer and making the situation worse; it puts the blame on a general mechanic that can and will generally be acknowledged, without pushing it onto someone else.

Example 3 Flamer: jfc why the fuck didn't you ult that teamfight? Me: I kinda overestimated my mana pool, sorry about that.

This is also a good example of defending oneself, as it, again, deflects blame onto something that isn't just pushing it back onto the flamer. Attributing a problem to game mechanics rather than slinging dirt back at the flamer works ten times better, guaranteed.

Someone are 0/15/0 in ranked.

  • Don't say anything, you will get banned if you would ask him to play more serious or give him advice with items.

Advising a person on their items is pointless, especially if you're telling them to buy something that's off the build path they've already started on. Don't dictate item builds - you wouldn't like it if I told you to go Iceborn Gauntlet over Trinity Force on Poppy, or that you should take Relic Shield on Thresh since Flay's passive damage bonus can make it viable despite his being Ranged.

So, y'know. Golden rule - treat others how you want to be treated. You wouldn't want people dictating your item builds, so you shouldn't be dictating theirs.

As for asking them to play more seriously, or "stop feeding", or whatever other generic statement, let me put it to you this way:

Generic statements like that don't help at all.

If someone's getting beat and needs direction to survive and bounce back, they need specific advice for their situation, which, unless you're paying so much attention to them that you're ignoring your own lane, you're not going to know what specific advice they need.

And, again, this all boils down to a simple point: Don't flame people.

Don't ask enemie team to report a player who troll

  • They will troll you and report you for being negative beacuse it's fun to mess with people who play ranked serious

Again, like I said earlier: If someone reports you and you do nothing wrong, their report means nothing.

As for report rallying, Yes, absolutely, DO NOT ASK FOR REPORTS AGAINST OTHER PLAYERS.

Pardon the emphatic use of caps, but I feel that's the best way to hammer in the surface-level agreement with that particular argument. I don't agree about troll reports, because, as stated, reports against someone who didn't break the rules won't do anything, but still, don't ask for reports.

The IFS only needs one report to review and punish a player, so asking for reports can be considered harassment, so, y'know. Don't do it.

Imperial Pandaa1/26/2019, 3:07:42 PM4 votes

Things you forget to mention:

  1. You have a mute button so they can't constantly harass you verbally.

  2. If you want to respond and you know it was a mistake, why not own up? "Sorry. Was a bad call." Sometimes they can be understanding and may chill.

  3. Again, defending yourself is muting and won't get you a punishment.

  4. Ask if someone wants advice for how to build before assuming they do. Making a recommendation is also fine; "might want to consider executioners calling to counter the Raka/Sona heals."

  5. Why ask the enemy to report someone when 1 report does the same as 9?

EvilDustMan1/26/2019, 3:09:44 PM2 votes

Using NPC unironically. That's a bingo card space.

Tappad Grabb1/26/2019, 3:17:03 PM1 votes

My friend got 14 days ban when he played ranked after he lost a game there he had 0/7 trist top, 4/10 vayne there both had bad dmg output, they was duo and both reported him beacuse he asked them to play more serious to be able to win the game! He did mute them in game and still got punished.

I think this report system are totaly shit! If someone in real life trash talk you or haras you and if you are a kid who play LoL. Then they will mirror the system from LoL and not stand up for themself and just accept that people treat them like shit! It's how they learn here and will take it with them in the future. Because RIOT learn young people that you will get punished if u defend yourself vs bad people.

hrooza dota 1/26/2019, 10:33:07 PM1 votes

if someone is flaming me from the get go or at any point i say (sorry but i will mute you so i can focus) or something along the lines.

and if the game turned around i remove the mute and find him stopped the flame and is playing better.

ThyDelutionist1/26/2019, 3:05:16 PM

As you know dude riot is a business.... If they banned more flamers then they would lose money cause many flamers dont get banned even hate speechers...