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Some truth to "elo hell"

Retro Cometzz··3 votes·580 views
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Now I often see many posts where bronze/silver players complain about this so called "elo hell". Along with these complaints i see many responses that insist "there is no such thing", "if you are good enough you will get out of bronze/silver". Yet within a lot of my friends stats, and even my own stats, it seems that "elo hell" is a very real thing. I got put into bronze 1 my first season of playing ranked, because i did my promotions right after hitting level 30. BIG MISTAKE. I didn't play ranked for about a year, but recently decided to give it a try again. In that break, I was exclusively playing with my gold/plat friends. Playing with them improved my mechanics/communication tenfold. I got into my ranked games again, and was getting consistent scores. Yet, I was noticing that most games, 1 or 2 lanes would be making mistakes that could be easily corrected over and over.

Before you label me as a "classic bronze who thinks he is better", let me say a few things. I know that I AM NOT AMAZING. I know that it is improbable for me to reach plat in a fast period of time. Yet, by playing against higher elo (gold/plat) for over a year, I can go toe to toe with them in lane. I have an average 3.33 KDA and ~52% kill participation in ranked. While those stats are nothing too special, I feel that it should allow me to climb at a decent rate. Yet, in most of my ranked games, I feel that it REALLY IS my teammates weighing me down. I already know my bad tendecies, AKA not farming as much mid/late game. I always find myself in situations where I crush lane, but even after roaming and trying to help losing lanes, my whole team ends up ireversibly behind. I understand that I will never play perfectly, and that I can always improve and do better.

My issue is seeing all these comments on other posts stating "if you deserve it, you will climb fast". I'm not saying I deserve to skyrocket to gold, but I feel that I should be seeing a steady climb. Yet here I am, stuck in Bronze 2. I could be seeing this situation completely wrong, but based off of my experiences, I am convinced that I am stuck in this so-called "elo-hell".

9 Comments

Maximum Morde4 votes

You can have the mechanics of a gold/platinum player but the team play of a bronzie. It will cause you to fail because you aren't making good decisions. You aren't supporting your team, and you aren't leveraging your advantage where and when it matters. That essentially pisses away your advantage giving it to the other team. You can be 2k gold ahead of everyone on your team but that isn't going to help if the enemy team as a whole is 8k ahead of your team.

That doesn't mean you are stuck in elo hell. It means you have to develop your strategic thinking, tactical skills, and decision making. Those are arguably more important than mechanical skills because if you know when and where to be somewhere, you can help your team to carry, while with mechanical skills alone, you cannot carry 1v5 unless you are literally so far above them that your basically a diamond playing bronzies.

Things like kill contribution, while sorta informative aren't very useful because they don't describe the quality of that participation. It could be that you participated in the 52% that they would have won without your help and left them hanging out to dry when they really needed you for example.

Retro Cometzz2 votes

What you are saying makes a lot of sense. I don't mean this in any condescending way when I say, I know what you are saying already. Yes, my strategy/tatics could DEFINITLY improve. But my problem is that, even with "training" against higher elo players, when I try to apply what I learned to my bronze ranked games, I get no results. I'm not talking about games where I mess up a gank that throws up game, that's completely on me. Often when I roam after crushing lane, even if I succesfully apply pressure to a losing lane, often I am either flamed, or the lane proceeds to throw their lead on their own. What you said in your comment, is completely true, and I won't be arrogant enough to say that it doesn't apply to me. What i WILL say, is that if anything, I feel that my decision-making is on-par if not better than my mechanics. I often find myself winning lane/getting ahead based off of decision-making, rather then straight up outplays. (IE outsustaining, roaming, vision, making tough calls on fights/objectives)

Maximum Morde1 votes

The most constructive thing you can do instead of posting about ELO hell is post replays of your games and ask for critiques.

Even getting into the mindset that ELO hell exists is going to cause you to not be playing at your best. You gotta let that stress factor go. The mental game is super important. For instance, if you see a team member making what you think is a bad move, rather than thinking oh shit he's doing something stupid you should be thinking about how you can help make it work. Team unity behind a bad plan is almost always better than being fractured between multiple better plans. Obviously that isn't always the case, but it's something you should be thinking about.

But yeah, post up game replays if you want real help.

lolptwo1 votes

You clearly have never smurfed gone 10-0 top lane in 10 mins and have your team at 0-30 feeding uncontrollably and have zero mechanics. Tell me how do you win this game I want to hear it. Morale doesn't make your team better. Saying things that other players cannot mechanically do doesn't make it happen. You be the best player in the world and not be able to carry 5 people who are feeding uncontrollably.

Maximum Morde1 votes

I accept the loss and move on to the next match. It's a team game and you cannot win every match by yourself.

Ya shouldn't get caught up in the negatively focused battle of pointing out why others suck because you can't win that. Nothing good comes of it. Instead, focus on the plenty of battles out there that you can win, like how to improve your own game. This is one of those cases where it is best to be selfish and focus inward rather than worrying about others.

Hunts and Dips1 votes

In bronze you can easily solo carry games if you're good enough.

If you can't, then you obviously don't deserve to climb.

Bronze is by far the easiest division to get out of, you just have to hard carry. If you are unable to then you have to be a great team player and encourage not flame.

Speckoh1 votes

you're not gonna win every bronze game unless you're like a challenger/pro or something. Don't judge ranked by just a handful of games. Theoretically, the enemy team gets just as much baddies in bronze. Just all RNG on how good your teammates are going to be. I've had losing streaks and winning streaks and in the end, I see it as the more games you accumulate, somehow it's all going to fall into place and you'll end up with the ranking you deserve.

Korillo1 votes

Season 4 bronze, season 5 bronze, appropriate MMR for bronze 2. I don't think you're in ELO hell, I think you are a bronze player right now. If you want to climb you're going to have to focus on your own play. It has nothing to do with your teammates.

Hunts and Dips1 votes

Work on getting more cs.

ABF: always be farming

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