Chat restriction, not mad at Riot, just confused and want to hear thoughts.

Arretey258·7/21/2019, 3:15:44 PM·2 votes·4,724 views

I know these posts get made probably after every CR, but honestly? After years of playing this game, reporting seriously offensive chat, and practicing some major "DST", I just got my first chat restriction. I get that I used some curses and I definitely understand how this could be stated as toxic and unsportsmanlike dialogue. But I am just so confused how this warranted a 10-game chat restriction. For 10 games I am completely limited in how I communicate with my team and I didn't get to find that out until I was in the next match when I realized I couldn't congratulate my bot lane for an early-game double kill. Spent a whole game limited to 1 message every 3 or so minutes because I blew through the first 5 trying to be positive after a bad game. Not to mention how many games I'm sure we've all played where people go on /all chat tirades about how "absolutely useless and trash" their team is in an attempt to get reports going. I get it Riot, someone doing something wrong doesn't mean others should get away with slightly less bad behavior, but I've seen some seriously messed up stuff in chat from people shaming the mentally deficient to borderline legitimate racism being spewed, and very rarely with the reports I've issued against those people has it given me notifications that they were handled. For context below, we had an Urgot mid that early on pinged for a gank then pinged oom, I figured he wanted me to gank but after pinging oom and that he didn't have enough for his ability I assumed he wasn't in a position to do anything so I'd get him next time. Just as I started walking away to type that I'll get her when he get's back, he goes in on his Kat and she kills him before I can get there, she then ults and kills me. For the rest of the game he referred to this as me "inting her a double". Later my bot Veigar pinged a Cait that was under tower and half health recalling, so I ulted in (WW) and he throws her stun up, I figure ez pz, whereupon Veigar immediately backs off leaving me under tower with less than a third health with a quarter health Cait gunning me down. As you can imagine, I wasn't too happy about that, but I don't think I went too over the top. Urgot died to his Kat a couple more times then started to complain about the top lane Yasuo (who admittedly was my duos partner) because he had died to his laner (mind you yas up to this point was winning lane pretty substantially and even into late game was always ahead in CS), he called our Yas useless and said he was feeding. At this point I was starting to feel like I should just mute the urgot because it was obvious after his subsequent deaths to the Kat that he was going to keep pushing way too far up, and dying, and flaming in all chat, all before doing it again and again. I at one point started to argue in all chat, which I am not a fan of doing because it feels preachy and you know no one on the enemy team really cares, but I hated the idea that he was gonna try and throw Yas under the bus like he was in the wrong and that anyone on the enemy team seeing that might've actually believed it. I get that this is an automated system, but I just can't figure out how I was so in the wrong here that it warranted screwing over my ability to communicate with my team for 10 games.

Game 1 In-Game Arretey258: ill try <----Bot asking for an early gank

Arretey258: kinda gave me a mixed signal there my guy <----Urgot passive-aggressively telling me how I fucked up by not AAing the Kat during her ult

Arretey258: i did?

Arretey258: i swear to god, if someone pings me again to help them then complains im not helping them <---Being blamed by bot for "going in too soon"

Arretey258: 2? <--- urgot saying I inted his kat 2 kills Arretey258: and i was backing out Arretey258: i didnt Arretey258: you pinged to kill her Arretey258: and i went in Arretey258: you pinged me to fight her then said you had no mana Arretey258: then died Arretey258: then i died to her

Arretey258: how you gonna be so toxic <---Yas backing me on the Kat double-kill and Urgot immediately flaming him for feeding and being "toxic"

Arretey258: he is so far ahead in his lane already Arretey258: how is he inting Arretey258: like, now you're just being purposefully ignorant

Arretey258: WHY WOULD YOU PING IF YOU AREN'T GOING TO FIGHT <----Failed bot turret-dive

Arretey258: you pinged then stunned then backed off Arretey258: like come on man!

Arretey258: dude <-----Urgot throwing shade in all chat at the top lane Arretey258: shut Arretey258: the fuck Arretey258: up Arretey258: you are useless Arretey258: you're 30 cs behind

Arretey258: because he is trying to say yas is throwing game and then spam pings <-----my response in all chat Arretey258: fucking done with this

Arretey258: yas is 4/5 <----back in teamchat Arretey258: you are 1/3 Arretey258: who is feeding? Arretey258: on top of that he already took his turret Arretey258: and is 30 cs ahead of his lane

Arretey258: seems like you didn't even need it <-----responding to enemy Kat telling yas not to take her yas after she wipes up some kills

Arretey258: this is what i mean, this urgot throws his lane then blames yas all game <----response in all chat after urgot tries to blame yas

Arretey258: no, skill equals skill <-----teamchat again, Urgot saying "kills don't equal skill"

Arretey258: like you just ran in and fed thrice? <----Urgot saying again how Yas is inting right after his 3 consecutive death of just diving them

Arretey258: asked for a gank then pinged he was oom <-----explaining myself in all chat because Urgot says that I inted his Kat a double

Arretey258: then goes in while im back at red Arretey258: but "I" inted a double

Arretey258: i imagine they probably don't care in the slightest, you're right <-----Janna saying that they (enemy team) don't care

Arretey258: but if it gets the toxic behavior reported, im all for it

Arretey258: glad half the team followed up <----Veigar requested me to ult the kat which I then did and only Yas and Urgot followed up

Arretey258: dude <-----Veigar trying to say that the rest of the team was trash

Arretey258: stfu Arretey258: twice you called a play Arretey258: and then backed off on it

Post-Game Arretey258: i love it Arretey258: twice this little shit asked for a gank or for a play to be made Arretey258: specific call out Arretey258: then when it starts Arretey258: he backs off Arretey258: you pinged a half hp cait under tower, threw a stun Arretey258: and when i ulted on her you backed off Arretey258: no excuse for that one? Arretey258: LOL

Like I said, I get that this isn't "sportsmanlike" but neither was any of the other things being said in this game, but I ended up with a chat-restriction. I just don't understand how I can have loads of games where similar dialogue is exchanged, as well loads of other games where I try to keep everyone positive despite a hyper-toxic asshole, but I have this game and all of a sudden it warranted a chat-restriction. Mostly I'm making this post because I want to see what other people think of the situation, because if other people think I was definitely in the wrong and can explain what I'm missing then hopefully it'll re-frame my perspective.

12 Comments

GatekeeperTDS7/21/2019, 3:18:08 PM4 votes

Could you please post your unedited chat log without all of the commentary? What other people said or did is really irrelevant to your punishment. If you were negative due to retaliating, you're still breaking the rules and your punishment is valid.

Kei1437/21/2019, 4:35:51 PM4 votes

The system doesn't punish based on severity alone. It punishes based on consistency x severity, meaning you can be punished for 1 game of extreme toxicity or many many games of mild toxicity.

This game has some mild toxicity in it. So it must mean that you exhibit similar behavior over many games.

Sona Ping7/21/2019, 4:07:37 PM3 votes

Since you are confused here's the real short version of it. Don't argue with other players. If players get into an argument, the ones that argue in their games get chat restricted. Don't focus on the details, this game was just given as an example.

Eedat7/21/2019, 4:02:06 PM2 votes

That isnt that bad, but first off you should know that Riot doesn't give a shit about context in the slightest.

Just gotta cut the stuff out about telling people to shut the fuck up, calling them useless, feeders, KDAs, etc