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Fact: People play worse when you flame them.

TeemoJenkins·4/29/2015, 1:58:39 PM·130 votes·8,891 views

3 minutes into a game last night their support feeds a kill then in all chat says "Report adc". Immediately following this bot lane on the enemy team completely implodes because ADC does not care. Jungler makes the bad decision of trying to help "bot recover" and instead feeds our jg and our adc.

Jg stops going top and mid, the mid and top try and go bot to "recover" the lane - they don't feed kills, but they lose their towers.

I died once in the match, simply because once toxicity starts on a team the chances of a recovery in a losing lane is very low and that person will hold a grudge most of the game. Any team work goes out the window, you can't have good team work when butthurt is present. Support spammed "report adc" several times in the game.

In the post game lobby when support and jg both said report ADC again a simple question was asked "Why would I report ADC when support fed 13 kills". JG said "REPORT HIM" I then asked - "JG why did you abandon the other lanes when bot was already lost?" - Support admitted their mistake and realized their BM had made them tunnel visioned on not seeing their own bad play.

TL;DR Flaming a team mate accomplishes nothing.

84 Comments

Ariel the Cruel4/29/2015, 9:35:55 PM19 votes

Fact: People play worse when you flame them.

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Nameless Voice4/29/2015, 8:30:17 PM17 votes

I have often found myself playing much worse when my allies are flaming me (or others on my team.) It's hard to keep motivated when you have no love for your teammates.

CubedJustice4/29/2015, 6:41:34 PM13 votes

Fact: Bears eat beets.

TeemoJenkins4/29/2015, 9:53:37 PM11 votes

I was surprised when suddenly negative replies started coming in, then looked at the clock and now understand.

Killstrado4/29/2015, 2:33:28 PM10 votes

I've flamed, you've flamed, we've all flamed...but it is most definitely not the answer. It's ruins the experience so much, I like the feeling of being behind and just knowing we might lose and then the team gets a hardwork hard-on and turns everything around for a victory because we didn't flame anyone and just focused on the best way to defeat the enemy

Offended4/29/2015, 8:28:05 PM9 votes

I've made countless threads/posts about this, including one on how to deal with trolls. This is 100% true, especially in bronze.

Tilting is real. If someone went up to you in real life, commented on how ugly you are, punched you, and then walked away, I guarantee you would have some emotional reaction to it. (Unless you have an emotional disorder, in which case you wouldn't, but I feel bad for you.) It's the same in league. Calling your teammates "shit", pointing out their mistakes, and flaming about an AFK teammate DO severely affect your gameplay.

GuiltyGecko4/29/2015, 7:41:10 PM9 votes

Wait? You mean to tell me calling my teammate a fucking terrible shit eating cockroach doesn't make them play better? I thought they would read that and be like "Wow. You know what? He's absolutely right. If I just stop being a fucking terrible shit eating cockroach then everything will be okay. Thanks for pointing that out"

Wrath of Zed4/29/2015, 2:25:41 PM8 votes

Absolutely nothing is accomplished. Other than the other teams chances of winning going up. If you have a beef with someone then you should wait till the game is over. Try to work better as a team and the fight and bicker afterwards.

Hell, if you work better as a team then you might not want to fight afterwards

JimmyNtheKudos4/29/2015, 10:52:37 PM5 votes

It doesn't always work, but having a general positive attitude works better than being an ass all the time.

Nucleophilic atk4/29/2015, 4:44:39 PM5 votes

Meh, people don't play better when you are nice, either lol.

Wakamune4/29/2015, 10:04:07 PM4 votes

If you make people uncomfortable they're just going to mute you off. You can't ask them to protect you in teamfights or ward specific areas for you or build certain items. Games can be won with just pings, but why would you take away an advantage from yourself?

58738074DEL14/29/2015, 6:43:11 PM4 votes

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Only Play Darius4/29/2015, 7:28:07 PM3 votes

This has been happening every other game and its aggravating as all hell, but responding usually ends in rage which has been the cause of my previous suspensions, here's how I deal with it. I start the game telling my team I am muting them ( I don't actually but I have learned to ignore chat, inb4 fail to communicate I use pings) and take MasterYi summoner 11 summoner 12 and splitpush to take inhibs, because I hate teamfighting with a team that gets on my nerves, and because of previous experiences I dont trust my team anyway. Besides, Yi's team fight is terrible and he is only good for cleanup. However, he pushes waves at light speed and is impossible to 1v1 due to raw stats and true damage. Play around strengths, instead of trying to overcome weaknesses.

Unfortunately it the current meta favors team fight over solopush, but keep practicing and eventually you will get good enough that you can backdoor and win games even with a team that you cannot stand to play with.

Nasus also works, but much slower at clearing waves and much harder to escape with when the ENTIRE enemy team jumps you 1v5. Can't stand teams who send 3/4 people to jump me, no honor in it and they only won because they were graced with a team that didn't feed, but I guess you play around strengths right?

Before you say I'm scum for split pushing (even in games where I'm silent I get reported for split pushing even with best k/d on the team) consider this. There was a game where I went 1/0 in lane as Nasus. However, my bot lane and jungler fed enemy cait so hard that she didn't even need her support anymore. So Leona came all the way to opposite side of map and made a permanent home in top lane. It was Quinn top so I couldn't dive on her like usual thanks to Leona, and when jungler came to gank it was 3v1 under my turret so I had no chance of survival. Inb4 you should have roamed to other lanes Quinn never left lane that entire game, and with Leona's help she took the inner turret easily. If I left lane I would have lost inhib instantly. Game was completely ruined by my team, had absolutely no control my lane because Leona camped it half the game, in any other game doing that would have caused her ADC to die multiple times. Too bad my team fed cait to the point that she could win 1v2s. And Quinn had the balls to say "ez lane ez game" in post-match. Games like this have been slowly draining away at the trust I try to have in my team, eventually the well runs dry.

Tmoose4/30/2015, 2:29:25 PM3 votes

Me just being the way I am, the moment that someone flames at me, I get mad/sad/butthurt whatever you want to call it. That's just me. I'm sensitive. I don't flame back, I just mute them, but it still effects the whole game for me. I still think back to that one time when someone told me I suck throughout the whole game. I'm always thinking about it no matter what I do and it really effects my play, usually negatively. It makes the game stressful and I find myself not wanting to play the game anymore. Please, if your goal is to be constructive, don't say to report them or tell them they're bad, because 10 times out of 10 you are not helping anything at all.

TEHLAWLFlRM4/29/2015, 10:47:59 PM2 votes

Makes me feel better, I mean if they are being stupid in the first place and playing bad not flamming them isn't going to make them play better. Sorry but they have the option to mute you if being flammed is getting to them.. They need to just disable chat all together but until that happens there is always going to be flamming.

If mid is going 0-10 and you tell them to just play safe and then rush in and die again then no amount of encouragement is going to make them play better or smarter so flamming at least makes a person feel better imo.

I'd also like to point out that I've seen numerous enemy teams play better when you flame them because they get mad and start playing smarter and better and grouping up as a team.

Penta Penguin4/30/2015, 12:08:20 AM2 votes

this is why you play another game that doesn't facilitate teenager's anger issues

2pudge1cup4/30/2015, 1:07:33 AM2 votes

I call shenanigans

Support admitted their mistake and realized their BM had made them tunnel visioned on not seeing their own bad play.

Players don't admit mistakes.

rescued4/30/2015, 2:06:20 AM2 votes

Very true. Happens to me, get flamed and I start to make mistakes and just do worse in game. But if my teammates are encouraging, I enjoy myself more and do well.

AbyssionKnight4/30/2015, 2:26:51 AM2 votes

Yeah negativity doesn't work.

I was playing a game earlier, and at the start of the lane, thresh wasn't doing anything. He's sit in the bush, let me get harassed, not land hooks, etc. Then he walked back to the tower, stood there, had a clear chance for a hook that would have netted us a kill but didn't take it.

I was getting frustrated, and I could have started yelling for the team to report him, that he was just afking in lane, whatever. I didn't though, and he then apologized, saying he'd been having some computer issues and now was back. After that he started playing and we won lane very definitively.

Had I spent that time where he had issues making fun of him, raging, insulting him and so on, he would have probably just not bothered to fix his game and left, or if he had stayed our teamwork just wouldn't be there.

Shit happens, and when you're annoyed and you want to yell at someone, ask yourself why you want to yell at them and what you think it's going to accomplish. If you're honest and objective, you're always going to realize it only hurts you and you'll instead focus on improving a bad situation.

Tanfaiz4/30/2015, 7:22:59 AM2 votes

I absolutely hate it when people rage at someone who is new..... Like you can give them tips or ideas instead of making them feel like item 3070 Amumu

-Tanfaiz

I am Ollin too4/30/2015, 11:48:33 AM2 votes

I still firmly believe that playing badly is the cause of flame, and not flame is the cause of playing badly. Sure, a player who is reading and replying to flame has less attention for playing his role, but that itself is a huge mistake in terms of gameplay. Source: I'm chat restricted for reading too much flame and not using the mute button enough.

decembra4/30/2015, 4:46:20 AM1 votes

Fact: That is not a fact.

Fact: Your example proves your "fact" wrong.

Someone spamming report at you should only bother you if you're playing as bad as the spammer believes you are. Consider it not flaming, but advice. You've probably reached the point where you need to learn something about the game and apply it to how you play. If you're constantly trying to learn that in ranked, you're bound to get flamed (if this is Normal, sheesh, I give up). That's your issue that you bring to the game, and you simply can't expect people to stay calm when you're the 10th ADC in a row who is "learning Graves." Especially when Support was forced onto the last-pick spammer in Draft mode. Yes, at that point, it's the spammer bringing his own issues to the game, but never forget who started it.

There is a difference in "flamers", in individuals, and you can learn those differences and connect with those individuals rather than advise the flamers to go be martyrs and give you more air to breathe. They're expressing, just like you do. I don't think you realize that every time you speak out like this without having a clue what you're dealing with you're just fanning flames and becoming a flamer yourself. And when you do become a flamer, I hope nobody recognizes you as a human being either.

AxlStream4/29/2015, 9:46:26 PM1 votes

Flaming doesn't help but I refuse to catter to oversensitive failures of soloQ.