How does the punishment system actually work? Does it even work at all?

Mole Lord·10/14/2016, 2:47:36 PM·5 votes·660 views

Every game I play, there is at least one toxic player on average. Whether it's feeding, negative chat, flaming, or trolling, there's always something. I often wonder how these players aren't banned yet. How is it that someone can behave like this and not get banned from all the reports they receive at the end of the game? I don't understand how we can have a punishment system, yet no one ever seems to get punished, unless in an extreme case. With all these toxic players running around, I sometimes feel like the punishment system is just too lenient. Let me know what you think in the comments, does anyone else feel this way?

8 Comments

S0kaX10/14/2016, 2:49:40 PM2 votes

I really think RITO should rework their trolling finder system

DrCyanide10/14/2016, 2:59:45 PM1 votes

Am important thing to remember is just because someone lost it in your game with them doesn't mean they're like that always. We've all had games where we've been at our wits end and lashed out when shouldn't have and normally wouldn't have. The system realizes that, and as such gives some leniency, trying to look for trends rather than singular events. The exception to that is racist/homophobic/death threat comments, which get escalated pretty quickly.

For toxic language, there's a tiered punishment system.

10 game chat restriction
25 game chat restriction
14 day ban
Permaban

Anything that gets you a chat restriction can get you permabanned if you keep it up. It generally goes from one punishment tier to the next, but can skip steps for the above mentioned behavior. It takes about 3 months of good behavior to drop down one punishment tier. So if you got a 14 day ban, and kept being toxic, you're permabanned, but if you cleaned up your behavior for 3 months your next punishment would be another 14 day ban.

Trolling/Intentional Feeding's detection system is a lot less "tried and true". As such, Riot's erroring on the side of not banning innocent players with it. Clear cut examples (running down mid with 6 tears) are easy for it to detect, and more prone to punishment. I believe (not certain) that manual reviews of this type of behavior are going on periodically to test the automatic system, making sure it's accurate and helping to teach it examples of what to look for.

Elros Thranduil10/14/2016, 3:05:40 PM1 votes

honestly that doesnt work at all unless at least 5-6 people report in a same game. I remember my friend who were toxic for like 6-7 months. One game including me 9 guys repoted him. And next game also 5-6 people repoted him, he got banned next day. so....

woodvsmurph10/14/2016, 10:31:14 PM1 votes

I've been punished with chat restrict warning before. Apparently telling people politely how to not be stupid and feed 2v2 or solo invade on something like malphite jungle vs a kha jungle is rude. When they start being toxic to me for politely trying to help them make smarter decisions (don't try to 2v5 stop a dragon, etc.) I will reply in kind. For this, I was warned that continuing my behavior would get me restricted or banned temporarily.

A single report on an enemy means nothing. TONS of reports over the course of months by multiple people seems to be the only reason anyone gets punished. The only thing i've ever heard a reply on for someone i reported was if they used racial language while being toxic. Going 0/9/0 in a 2v1 as adc doesn't get someone punished or even warned. Refusing to work with team (when they actually make intelligent shotcalls -- not suicidal ones) doesn't get punishment. Only racism -- except in my case. I don't do racism and got a warning quite awhile back now. I think after the latest stuff with the pro's and toxicity though we may see an improved filter like they want to use with the pros introduced to league for everyone -- and more of those repeat offenders punished with at least warnings or temp bans. I really hope so. I don't like going 2/4/0 due to being camped by jungle non-stop and ganked by enemy support only to be lectured by a friendly support that is 1/3/1 in a 2v1 lane because the enemy support roams most of game.

Ben Sharpio10/15/2016, 6:00:35 AM1 votes

Yes it works and its efficient. I have gotten chat restrictions and 2 temp bans on this account. They give toxic players an ample amount of opportunities to reform.