2016 And People Still Playing Champs In Ranked For The First Time

Xonra·6/23/2016, 5:10:09 PM·21 votes·1,731 views

I get it, you get a new champ, you want to try it out, but you don't want to waste the time you have playing today to play a normal. You want that LP, but...the champ you are about to pull out you've never actually played before.

I know people don't like the suggestion, but there really needs to be a barrier of entry attached to the mastery system for people playing champs in ranked. I know that is unpopular (Cause people like you, you know who you are, that pick up that champ and don't care if it is your first time playing the champ or not), but you should really have to get at least Mastery 2 with a champ to play it in ranked. that is what, 3 games? 4 if you lose half of them.

I've played with a jungler this week that would just toss her ult in random directions cause she somehow didn't know how it worked. I just played with a Kalista that didn't know how Kalista actually worked, so would attack move completely out of fights and auto attack range every single fight. A master Yi that didn't level his heal because the "ability sounds dumb". Sure, I'm ranting a bit, I admit that, but realistically, it is 2016, and there NEEDS to be something in place to keep people from playing a champion in more than just bots before hopping into ranked completely clueless as to what they are doing. I mean we have the mastery system already in place, and from playing SMITE, I can tell you, it works wonders there.


tl;dr It is obvious players can be trusted to just not go into a match with a champ for the first time in ranked, so Riot really should help, because it gets real old. Most players aren't LCS level to pick up a champ and be decent with it, and really with people doing this for years with new champs, it should have been handled years ago. Normals, fine. Ranked, not so fine.

21 Comments

MISTAFUNKTASTIC6/23/2016, 9:28:30 PM4 votes

Mastery 2 is reasonable. I'd support that.

philosifer6/24/2016, 3:15:28 AM3 votes

So I like this idea in principle. Im mostly a normals player myself and really only play ranked occasionally and only on a few Champs that I feel comfortable that I know well. However let me play devils advocate.

  1. how does this work with trading champs? Say there is a contested top laner left unbanned and top is last pick. How does mastery requirements affect this if the first pick doesn't have mastery?

  2. reworks. I played vlad a ton before his rework and while it's not drastically different, there are new mechanics to play around. Do I have to regain my mastery level? Some reworks are essentially new champs, while some are simple tweaks.

  3. free week champs. Say I play a champ all week on free rotation while saving the ip to buy him. I could play 15 games with the champ and learn a lot without gaining mastery until I owned the champ.

  4. some champs I haven't played in a while. Maybe I played them a lot back in the day but I haven't played them much since the mastery system was introduced.

  5. counter/situational picks- this one is kind of a side effect to most of the above. But limiting the champ pool when you have an opportunity to play a strong counter just because you don't have the requisite mastery is dangerous. I'll give an exaple. Say I'm qued as jungle and I am last pick. The enemy is all AD and we lack a tank. Rammus would be a perfect pick. I've played him on and off thoughout my career but not really recently and I don't have the required mastery. His kit hasn't changed in a long time and he is not a complex champion to play so I am in little danger of poor performance due to knowing the champion. But if these changes were to go live I would be locked out.

TL-DR I agree with the sentiment but I think that there would be too many times that It would backfire and cause problems

Maximum Morde6/23/2016, 9:30:06 PM2 votes

I had to quit playing ranked because I first timed every champ already in ranked, now im done.

Mandang06/23/2016, 9:21:56 PM1 votes

Agreed. Mastery should be the system used to keep first-timers out of ranked, not whether you own the champ.

Another huge benefit of doing it this way is that it lowers barrier to entry in ranked from 16 champs owned to 6 (if you had the required mastery on all of the free rotation champs). This clears the way for increasing number of bans without raising the barrier to ranked.

TheEvilQueen1356/23/2016, 9:42:14 PM1 votes

i agree that now that you can preference your roles attaching a mastery is reasonable(3 at the highest though).

However I will say that last season i got forced to top(they let me jungle after i locked) and as a sup/jungle main i had to go malphite(who i had played maybe 1-2 games with) and play him first time in the jungle. we actually won cause malph ults on point but I know that's not usually the case.

Schàdenfreude6/24/2016, 2:01:26 AM1 votes

lol i went first time Anivia in ranked and went 18/7 and got S+. There is no problem with playing new champs in ranked unless you have retarded people on your team.

Teklm6/24/2016, 5:15:09 AM1 votes

Get rid of blind normals and replace with normal draft in OCE and I'm cool with it.

Xonra6/23/2016, 5:38:57 PM1 votes

First time I've gotten upvotes with no comments. Granted usually I get the same 2 guys making some negative comment and downvoting by now (You know the ones I'm talking about :P. The ones that make arguments on two threads with opposing sides just for the sake of arguing).

Guess I shouldn't look a gift horse in the mouth <_<

The Deckowner6/24/2016, 5:43:18 AM1 votes

Rito weight smurfs heavier than us so they had never implimented this, but I think they do need to.

TargaryenRule6/23/2016, 6:18:51 PM1 votes

But you can ignite anivia's passive

Dangerous Man6/23/2016, 8:25:10 PM1 votes

I'd say once you hit mastery level 3 you can play that champion in ranked. Mastery Level 2 can be gotten to in 1-3 games which is kinda dumb.