Suggestions for Report Tracking, Honor and Unskilled Comments

AvariceSyn·8/21/2014, 1:12:20 AM·49 votes·7,496 views

Before reading: I apologize for the lack of organization in this post, but the idea is that the program is opt-in only, you have to volunteer to participate.

Report Tracking You have the ability to see how much honor you have for each category, your wins and losses, CS, etc., but why is there no way for us to track our own reports? And by that I mean when and why we were reported.

As far as I can remember, since the new system has come up I have never been reported for anything that would give the alert that I was reported. I generally have an outwardly positive behavior, though my optimism is not infallible and I'm subject to bad moods just as much as the next guy, if not more if I'm honest with myself.

If for no other reason, it'd be a good reformation tool that's used before a ban, after a report warning, and throughout your time playing. I believe that people can change, sometimes they need a helping, supportive hand, sometimes all they need are resources and themselves. A private, anonymous report tracker can contribute to both.

Critique Comments Also, the inclusion of non-behavioral based reports, such as "unskilled" would be wonderful. Not everyone has the guts to give criticism directly, and while I agree that this may in fact cause more issues with criticisms that aren't constructive and just in fact more abuse, even a simple number can give someone a hint that hey, I'm doing something wrong. To counteract abusive comments, a counter-report system could be put in place.

For report (unskilled) comments, limit the ability to do so to people who do not have a record for bad behavior and have put a certain number of hours into the game to give constructive criticisms such as "Unskilled Player: While you played a pretty good Vayne, you need to work on your positioning in fights and practice your CSing a little more. Check out some videos on minion farming."

Honor Comments I believe there should be an addition to increase the pool of options for player ratings that only the reported/honored person can see, even small comments that may even be able to go on the player's profile, such as "Teamwork: Dude played an awesome Blitz, landed many game changing hooks, peeled well when needed, warded like a boss, and was overall a great guy to have on the team!" It feels good to be honored, and it feels even better when the honor is more than a number. It's the difference between a handshake and a high-five coupled with "Keep up the good work, you're doing great!"

TLDR; Add ability for players to track when and why they were reported, allow for unskilled report comments and honor comments.

Thoughts?

Edit: I realize that not all players would want to have this available to them. By default, if you have muted someone they should not show up on your comments feed, and players should have to opt in to the program.

Edit 2: Added rough image of what I'm talking about. The champion icons are who you played, not who honored/reported you. This should all be as anonymous as possible. It's about your own personal improvement, not a social contest, not a reason to hunt people down and poop in their boots while they sleep, just you.

http://i.imgur.com/bF8EeWZ.png

46 Comments

Jinxed Amulet8/21/2014, 1:46:50 PM11 votes

The entire tribunal/reporting system needs a complete overhaul and I think Riot is aware of this. There should also be a system that lets us know when our reports successful punished a player or some sort of confirmation/percentage that our reports were at least LOOKED into. I am tired of reporting people that say "been playing since season 1 never been reported gg" or claiming Riot won't punish them.

Lady Luck8/22/2014, 5:42:39 AM3 votes

Regarding report tracking:

It can cause panic for otherwise neutral/positive people. I think I'm a neutral-positive person. However, when the pop up warnings that say you've been reported more than usual first came out... I got one. The only things I had done recently that I think I got reported for were... Asking a rager to calm down and group with us instead of wandering solo. And I may have had a bad game where I unintentionally fed.

Despite knowing I had done nothing worth actually being punished for, the warning that I had been reported made me feel really uncomfortable. Maybe I shouldn't try to cultivate teamwork and just shut up? If I saw every warning I got... I think it'd discourage the positive attitude I try to maintain. This is a mix of fear (how many rage reports does it take?) and negativity bias. Luckily, I enjoy Lyte's posts so knew what the message was... I can only imagine how I'd have reacted if I didn't know about this new feature before I got the message. (That event stands out to me despite the fact that it was months ago. Since then I've maintained the same attitude and it's caused a number of wins as we actually do start working together sometimes. A recent example had us behind by 8k at one point. After I suggested we group together, we did so and won the game.)

I also am impacted by negativity of others very strongly. If I saw I had been reported it'd either make me do poorly next game or I'd stop playing for the day. If I got reports too often, it'd make me quit. Even if it's just "unskilled" which I cannot be punished for. I'd feel like I'm ruining the game for everybody else with my failures so I may as well give up.

Yes, it could help some people, but for me, it'd be a bad experience.

Honor comments could be great though :D As long as they can be reported... I imagine some trolls would abuse honor comments, so it'd definitely need some regulation.

Rew7118/22/2014, 11:30:00 PM3 votes

I've had it with toxic players. I've had some tell me to uninstall the game, to just leave, and was once asked to get cancer. Not lying. I don't know exactly why they say this. Well. I can, and its because of my lack of skill playing a new champion I'd just got. But hey. That seems like very good reason to tell me to die already. What I think could happen is true we need separate places for those who are unskilled but we also need room for those who are kind and will acknowledge others mistakes as mishaps that do happen. We need more players who don't exactly care about winning overall rather to try and have a good time while trying to win. I've noticed that I'm usually put with those who argue about a lot and will usually harass me because I was to learn how to use Taric or Swain but I'm not as skilled as the guy on the other side.

As a suggestion for those who are toxic. Why don't you get undercover players to go in and find out who is being toxic? Because although there is a report button next to his or her username, that doesn't mean that, that person will get reported rather than that person reporting me for his own reasons. These undercover players must be from Riot and they can't play champions with skins. Must be the original. And they must play old champs that aren't used much anymore such as Poppy, Swain, Yorick, Galio, etc.

SnugglyBunnies8/21/2014, 6:11:38 AM2 votes

Give you an upvote, that would be cool.

L7xLoTek8/21/2014, 1:42:03 PM2 votes

I'm kinda in the same boat. I don't see why I would have been reported, but I would like to know if I was and for what reason. It should be kept as anonymous as possible to avoid possible abuse and revenge situations, though.

AthenasVendetta8/23/2014, 1:16:42 PM2 votes

I like the idea. Giving the player the ability to be evaluated from another point of view and if we are doing bad to try to work on that. But, I think the comment part of it needs to be carefully watched, unfortunately.

I would love to see, not just a report area, a suggestion or help area.

Say you are jungling or laning against someone the is in league well above yours... I honestly would like input from them. 'Why did you do "this?" why not build "that" or do "this." Perhaps them saying "Hey, dude/dudette I noticed you made couple mistakes here and here"

Hoping8/23/2014, 7:19:53 PM2 votes

Best suggestion ever? Ever since I've started playin League, Tribunal's been down ever since I could remember...

Essilyn8/24/2014, 4:56:26 AM2 votes

I've thought it would be nice to have something akin to a Facebook like button rather then the current honor system, or even something on top of that. Plenty of times I just wanted to thumbs up a guy, but he wasn't overly friendly, or a leader, or showed excessive teamwork (unless hard carrying counts, which I assume didn't based on the description.) He was just, awesome, and I wanted the world to know that I and probably many more people thought this person was awesome too!

stevexrogers8/24/2014, 8:02:00 AM2 votes

this would also be a great way to track your own improvement and share your proud accomplishments in a way thats not just a scoreboard. you can see through the eyes of others you worked with. i think this is the absolute best idea i've ever read here on the boards. i hope this gets more attention and i pray this will be implemented. i would definitely opt in for it. I'm going to make an effort to share this.

ValiantConqueror8/25/2014, 9:09:32 PM2 votes

I like this idea, but honestly, some people are not as nice as the anonymous person who gave jinx an unskilled report comment, in the example picture above. There are people that don't care to give you feedback or suggestions to improve your skill, but just harass you and make you feel more bad because maybe you ruined their game with your "unskillfulness." Also since it is anonymous, those people will do it more without regret, since they don't think they will be caught. Sure you could add a report feature to this, but I feel that would be too overwhelming for riot.

Instead maybe we could have an option to see what happened to the people WE reported and if they were punished or not. I for one, report every toxic player I come across, because there is no excuse to trash talking your teammates or verbally abusing anyone else. Though I never actually know what happens to those people I report, and keep seeing more alike in future games. In fact this does not have to be something found in the client but could be placed in the Tribunal profile, since it fits there more, as well.

HolyTibbers8/24/2014, 4:21:33 AM1 votes

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TYoung118/26/2014, 1:13:18 AM1 votes

Solid enough concept, and something that could be quite helpful. Thumbs Up^

gubigubi8/24/2014, 6:05:50 AM1 votes

I don't think it should show the champion image to protect the identity of the person who reported you more but I do like the idea of being able to see what games you got reported in.

Phoneixflare8/24/2014, 7:58:51 AM1 votes

please....I really want this. A lot. :[

COWMANOFCOWS8/25/2014, 10:17:28 PM1 votes

What if reports carried more weight, the less you report people? That seems much more fair than every report being equal.

lets say 'player A' played 2000 games and only reported one person(player B), 'person B' must have been worse than the other 18000 people that 'player A' played with.

On the other hand 'player C', who has played 1000 games and reports half the people they play with, reports 'player D'. 'player C didn't report 4000 people, therefore the report tells us that 'player D' is only worse than 4000 people.

I think 'player C' is FAR more important for the tribunal to ban than 'player D' is. The ban system should reflect that.

pls upvote for others to see, or even better, spread this idea to other forums. idc at all if u take credit for it :D

Aquaponeyy8/25/2014, 3:14:13 AM1 votes

it brings nothing good, you are just making official the "noob" comment and i m sad to see that a lot of people agree !

i mean: (1) we see "noob" every game, do you think really that people who flames and says noob are good judges !!! so thank you to encourgae this kind of behavior

(2) when you play some champions at not" classical role" (like Quinn top/jungle or Quinn supp or DIANA offtank or support, Nida adc, or Yi top/mid ad offtank) people says troll because people doesn't know the champion and doesn't know their potential (in functon of the skills) or has t see a pro make it, and you will be classified as "unskilled".

So you prevent new ideas (or meta), and you are ruining the game with your system, really good job !

Are you happy to encourage the LoL's decay?

RIOT don't do it seriously !!!

Negaflame8/25/2014, 3:56:18 PM1 votes

Dosent do much right now because the tribunal is down, trolls know it and they are hitting people hard.

not to mention when someone report you, constructif critism is the least of there problem, they want you to fail and crash hard.

This idea sound like trowing gasoline onto fire.

ZekromEX8/22/2014, 11:29:58 PM1 votes

i like it. i wouldn't mind seeing something like this... RIOT PLEASE GET THIS GOING!

Linna Excel8/22/2014, 10:51:07 PM1 votes

People don't give honor nods that much anymore. Also seeing reports just might make a person rage. It'd probably make them more aware of the fact they are being an issue in game, however it's probably just end up with more people pestering lyte.

Aquaponeyy8/25/2014, 3:56:42 PM1 votes

What is " a good idea" when there are more + (potential enhancements) than - (potential bad consequences). For that system, to my opinion i think there are much more bad consequences (and i explained why !!! ).

MrToasterWafflez8/25/2014, 8:29:37 PM1 votes

These are really good ideas dude. I hope RIOT sees this post and implements the ideas!

Cynicatt8/23/2014, 9:37:02 PM1 votes

It's a nice idea, but with this community it would only be used to flame someone without it going in a chat log.

I mean, if you think about it, people already don't use the honor system anymore, and all you have to do for that is click a couple times. If people aren't willing to do that, they won't be willing to type anything constructive. But who knows, maybe I don't have enough faith in the community.