Supreme Court SAID THIS!

Blind Gaming·May 23, 2017·1 votes·822 views

The US Supreme Court had this to say about any product you buy: "If you buy it you own it. If you paid for it, it’s yours. You shouldn’t have to go ask permission of anybody to resell it. You shouldn’t have to worry about being sued for copyright infringement because the original copyright owner or manufacturer doesn’t like you being the person reselling it." That sounds like a wonderful start of a video game lawsuit to me.......HERE IT FN COMES RIOT!!!!!!!!!!!! HERE IT COMES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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PsyrixMay 23, 20178 votes

Technically no, you did not buy the skins. U bought access to the skins on that account (as the skins are not tangible property.) Additionally ur account is technically owned by riot, read through the terms and conditions of use. And technicalities hold great sway in court cases. The terms and conditions, which you agreed to (in each patch before the new client) explicitly state that Riot can switch off an account whenever they feel like.

Blind GamingMay 23, 20171 votes

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Technically no, you did not buy the skins. U bought access to the skins on that account (as the skins are not tangible property.) Additionally ur account is technically owned by riot, read through the terms and conditions of use. And technicalities hold great sway in court cases. The terms and conditions, which you agreed to (in each patch before the new client) explicitly state that Riot can switch off an account whenever they feel like.

If I bought access to the skins, then I own access to the skins buy association to what the supreme court has said. I have read what riots terms are well enough. I also understand law, and the fact that everything is open to interpretation in a court of law....And believe me when I say that when a Supreme court says if I buy it, I own it, that that is in-fact the case. If riot says otherwise that may offend the judge.

PsyrixMay 23, 20175 votes

Here's this little nugget of information that is CLEAR and INDISPUTABLE "2.2. What happens if my account is terminated? (No LoL for you.) If your account is terminated, you’ll no longer have access to it, including any of the associated data or content (e.g., champions, skins, Riot Points, etc.). You’ll not be entitled to any refunds and we’ll have no liability to you. We also reserve the right to terminate any other accounts you may have created (also without any refunds or liability to you). You understand and agree that using the Riot Services comes with the risk that your account may be terminated or suspended and that, whenever you use the Riot Services, you’ll bear this risk in mind and always conduct yourself appropriately." within the terms and agreements. Once you have agreed to this you are liable to these regulations. The court cannot argue against something that is clear cut and as direct as that.

Blind GamingMay 23, 20171 votes

PsyrixMay 23, 20173 votes

By including that in their terms of service they provided a way to overrule the supreme courts. Once an agreement is signed, an agreement with explicitly stated guidelines, the supreme court is very limited in what they can do to change it

Blind GamingMay 23, 20171 votes

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By including that in their terms of service they provided a way to overrule the supreme courts. Once an agreement is signed, an agreement with explicitly stated guidelines, the supreme court is very limited in what they can do to change it

NO TOS WILL EVER OVERRULE A SUPREME COURT YOU IDIOT!

PsyrixMay 23, 20172 votes

Oh my goodness, are you censoring yourself with the use of "f#^%d"? I mean I thought you were a man that thought words shouldn't be thought of as bad. Why would you feel the need to censor yourself unless you realize that words do have a time and place? (On that note I still await your reply to my comment about the "n" word scenario)

Blind GamingMay 23, 20171 votes

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Here's this little nugget of information that is CLEAR and INDISPUTABLE "2.2. What happens if my account is terminated? (No LoL for you.) If your account is terminated, you’ll no longer have access to it, including any of the associated data or content (e.g., champions, skins, Riot Points, etc.). You’ll not be entitled to any refunds and we’ll have no liability to you. We also reserve the right to terminate any other accounts you may have created (also without any refunds or liability to you). You understand and agree that using the Riot Services comes with the risk that your account may be terminated or suspended and that, whenever you use the Riot Services, you’ll bear this risk in mind and always conduct yourself appropriately." within the terms and agreements. Once you have agreed to this you are liable to these regulations. The court cannot argue against something that is clear cut and as direct as that.

Also, if you would not there they also F%#&%#d themselves directly within the TOS. They said and i quote "What happens if my account is terminated?". Does that not directly contradict them saying the account is not yours? they just said it was right there! DERP GG I WIN AGAIN! You all are so bad at this game.

PsyrixMay 23, 20173 votes

Here, let me provide you the terms of use and the summoner code: http://gameinfo.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/game-info/get-started/summoners-code/ http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/legal/termsofuse In the summoner's code parts 3 and 4 have information pertaining to "griefing"

In the TOU refer to sections 2,3,4 and 5. Within section 4, more specifically refer to section 4.3.

Blind GamingMay 23, 20171 votes

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Here, let me provide you the terms of use and the summoner code: http://gameinfo.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/game-info/get-started/summoners-code/ http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/legal/termsofuse In the summoner's code parts 3 and 4 have information pertaining to "griefing"

In the TOU refer to sections 2,3,4 and 5. Within section 4, more specifically refer to section 4.3.

That's the same old song and dance everyone else is using.....Please direct me to the part within it that states specifically they will ban my account for doing such things. Thanks.....Oh wait, it's not there. There is noting in there about retaliation getting you banned. Even if banned, I still own the access to the goods I bought. In the game it asks you if you want to purchase an item, not the access to it. But according to the TOS, it's the access to the item. And according to the US Supreme Court if i buy it, it's mine......there is no limitations set forth as to what it is I may by. Therefore, one must assume it includes access to an item in a video game. Either way, I own it! Even Riot says the account is in-fact mine RIGHT IN THE TOS ITSELF!

PsyrixMay 23, 20173 votes

Pardon me, but I haven't seen anyone actually do what I'm doing when i provide you the links. Read throughout the entire literature and you'll come across the answers to your "suppositions". Unless you want me to spoon feed you like a baby (which I'm assuming you are not) but can't be completely sure since you won't seem to follow the bread crumbs I'd laid out for you.

Read this l'il bit of liability information:

"14. LIMITATION OF LIABILITY

14.1. Is there a limit on Riot’s potential liability under this Agreement? (Yes.) UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES, AND UNDER NO LEGAL THEORY, WHETHER IN CONTRACT, TORT (INCLUDING NEGLIGENCE), STRICT LIABILITY OR OTHERWISE, SHALL RIOT GAMES BE LIABLE TO YOU OR ANY OTHER PERSON FOR ANY INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, CONSEQUENTIAL, SPECIAL, EXEMPLARY, OR PUNITIVE DAMAGES OF ANY KIND (INCLUDING, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF BUSINESS, LOSS OF DATA, LOSS OF GOOD WILL, OR LOST PROFITS), OR ANY DAMAGES FOR GROSS NEGLIGENCE OF ANY KIND (INCLUDING, DAMAGES FOR WORK STOPPAGE, COMPUTER FAILURE OR MALFUNCTION, OR ANY OTHER COMMERCIAL DAMAGES OR LOSSES) ARISING FROM YOUR USE OR MISUSE OF THE RIOT SERVICES, EVEN IF RIOT GAMES KNEW OR SHOULD HAVE KNOWN OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES. IN NO EVENT SHALL RIOT GAMES BE LIABLE FOR ANY DAMAGES IN EXCESS OF ANY AMOUNT YOU HAVE PAID TO RIOT GAMES FOR GAME-RELATED TRANSACTIONS, IF ANY, DURING THE SIX (6) MONTHS IMMEDIATELY PRIOR TO THE TIME YOUR CAUSE OF ACTION AROSE."

Blind GamingMay 23, 20171 votes

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Technically no, you did not buy the skins. U bought access to the skins on that account (as the skins are not tangible property.) Additionally ur account is technically owned by riot, read through the terms and conditions of use. And technicalities hold great sway in court cases. The terms and conditions, which you agreed to (in each patch before the new client) explicitly state that Riot can switch off an account whenever they feel like.

furthermore, just because they can switch off an account, does not mean they can switch off the access to items of which I have paid for. They may switch off that account yes, but in doing so they would then have to transfer all items I have bough access to to a new account I make. In retrospect it would be far easier to not ban the account. They can't deny me the access to an item of which i have bought the access to. Because as the US Supreme court said: If I buy it, I own it. Therefore, if I buy access to an item, I own access to the item....GG GET REKT KID.

PsyrixMay 23, 20173 votes

And a private business may deny access to customers if certain thresholds are passed. A hotel may evict a customer if inappropriate behavior is conducted as may any bar/restaurant. You are liable to agreements made (especially if there is evidence of you agreeing to it) and holding up your end of the deal.

You pretty much bought a key, that key will no longer work if the door is changed. So keep your "access" as you have all right to that key, Riot... well.. tencent (lol) has all rights to the door and the kingdom beyond it.

Blind GamingMay 23, 20171 votes

Nowhere in the TOS does it explicitly say they will ban your account for cursing.....hell there is a chat filter and the game is not supposed to be accessed by anyone under the age of 13. And they can deny you access to a hotel or bar, but in doing so they wont get your money. You haven't bought the hotel room, nor have you bought the bar. If you are denied the staying in the hotel room you will be given a refund, and if you are denied access to a bar, well then you wont have the opportunity to buy anything. If you kicked out of a bar for causing a scene then you have obviously drank what you have paid to drink. If you have not, by law a bar must refund your money, as is the case with the hotel room. If they have to refund you, why should a game not have to do the same?

PsyrixMay 23, 20175 votes

And what the frig, do some more research. That supreme court decision only applies to tangible, physical things.

Blind GamingMay 23, 20171 votes

tangible already implies that said thing is physical.....Get SMART KID! Furthermore, I could argue that as it is applied to tangible items, the same should be applied to non tangible items, and therefore, why not my account? Or I could argue that if one goes to Riot and places their hand upon the hard drive of the server that contains my account, would that not be tangible enough? I could argue that the account appears on my screen and if I touch my screen while being on my account, does that not make it tangible? I could argue that my account requires the use of physical objects to use the account, such as a mouse and keyboard, and as such while I'm using and observing my account through such items then the account is infact tangible. I could also very much so win a case like the guy who sued NCSoft and say that the game developer made the game too addicting and I have fallen victim to it. And that they did not give me ample warning of the game's addictive nature. They then took the game account I was addicted to away form me, therefore, causing me a serious mental and physical injury. BTW that guy won the case and it was sealed in an attempt to keep pepole from knowing you can win a case against them.

Blind GamingMay 23, 20171 votes

Yes, I'm better than Johnny Cochran.

PsyrixMay 23, 20171 votes

Are you really? Yet you fail to do the adequate research to even justify this?

Blind GamingMay 23, 20171 votes

Are my arguments not valid? Also, I did enough research to see a guy won that case against NCSoft, which I could very much attribute to my own case!.....not to mention all the other arguments. all I would have to do is convince a jury or judge my argument is a valid one. that's it.

PsyrixMay 23, 20171 votes

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Are my arguments not valid? Also, I did enough research to see a guy won that case against NCSoft, which I could very much attribute to my own case!.....not to mention all the other arguments. all I would have to do is convince a jury or judge my argument is a valid one. that's it.

Yet you fail to reply to the key question that allowed Craig Smallwood to win the case: Has the game lead you to be diagnosed with depression and be hospitalized? And do you have substantial proof of this claim? Your other arguments have been shot down and disproved

Blind GamingMay 23, 20171 votes

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Yet you fail to reply to the key question that allowed Craig Smallwood to win the case: Has the game lead you to be diagnosed with depression and be hospitalized? And do you have substantial proof of this claim? Your other arguments have been shot down and disproved

wgat other argument? You have disproved nothing. As for the depression, should we see court, they will decide my dood, not you, and not I.

PsyrixMay 23, 20173 votes

I merely included the "physical" part to ensure you understood the simple definition of tangible (Glad you atleast know the basics :) ). To your comment about touching you screen, no, it does not make your account tangible as you are just touching your screen. To your point about suing riot, have you been hospitalized? Have you been diagnosed with depression? If you haven't before this statement then you can, and most likely will, be prosecuted for that (lying/making false claims). Sure you can go to Riot's servers, but at that point it is indisputably their property so you have no power there (you brought it up so can't deny that now)

Oh, I'd forgotten to comment on this part because I did not fully understand your logic. (granted with each comment you make, your logic seems to decrease more and more and just fall back onto a petty desire that you not be wrong :/) Why do you think Riot should pay you?

Blind GamingMay 23, 20171 votes

They should pay me because it was a lot of work and time to get my account where it was and acquire all I had. The logic part, the part you don't understand is this: In court everything is open to interpretation, even the TOS and everything related to my account and the suspension of it. NO EXCEPTIONS. All I would have to do is get people to agree with what I say. Not everyone is so feeble/closed minded as you appear to be. Are you a jury or a judge in this case? Hell no, because it does not exist yet. Rest assured you would be excluded because as we can see you are most certainly bias on this matter. Yes, I have been recently hospitalized. I started going blind recently. So, yes having the account banned has added to my already overwhelming depression. My depression is documented. However, as my account has been recently banned, I am allowed 6 months to see a doctor and be diagnosed with depression even if I have not been previously. And I can say whatever I want to including that statement, not to mention I did not say I did have depression for that reason stated above you idiot, I simply said I could argue as such. Please for the love of gawd learn to differentiate between the two. They can't prosecute me for making false claims as I haven't made any or for lying because I have not lied. They couldn't do that anyway even if I was lying because there is no injury to them in saying such things on their own forums, this is not a news company making articles to write about them. DERP! LEARN THE LAW BOI! Furthermore, if Riot was going to sue people for that they would have to sue everyone who's every said it on here and they would be tied up in court for so long, they would just give up. They couldnt even do the trials fast enough, as we all know it would probably take atleast 6 months per trial. By the time they finished one trial at least 20 more would have said the same thing. Even furthermore, they would have to prove who it is typing here, and that is impossible, because multiple people have access to this computer and anyone of them could be typing this! LEARN THE LAW BOI!

PsyrixMay 23, 20172 votes

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They should pay me because it was a lot of work and time to get my account where it was and acquire all I had. The logic part, the part you don't understand is this: In court everything is open to interpretation, even the TOS and everything related to my account and the suspension of it. NO EXCEPTIONS. All I would have to do is get people to agree with what I say. Not everyone is so feeble/closed minded as you appear to be. Are you a jury or a judge in this case? Hell no, because it does not exist yet. Rest assured you would be excluded because as we can see you are most certainly bias on this matter. Yes, I have been recently hospitalized. I started going blind recently. So, yes having the account banned has added to my already overwhelming depression. My depression is documented. However, as my account has been recently banned, I am allowed 6 months to see a doctor and be diagnosed with depression even if I have not been previously. And I can say whatever I want to including that statement, not to mention I did not say I did have depression for that reason stated above you idiot, I simply said I could argue as such. Please for the love of gawd learn to differentiate between the two. They can't prosecute me for making false claims as I haven't made any or for lying because I have not lied. They couldn't do that anyway even if I was lying because there is no injury to them in saying such things on their own forums, this is not a news company making articles to write about them. DERP! LEARN THE LAW BOI! Furthermore, if Riot was going to sue people for that they would have to sue everyone who's every said it on here and they would be tied up in court for so long, they would just give up. They couldnt even do the trials fast enough, as we all know it would probably take atleast 6 months per trial. By the time they finished one trial at least 20 more would have said the same thing. Even furthermore, they would have to prove who it is typing here, and that is impossible, because multiple people have access to this computer and anyone of them could be typing this! LEARN THE LAW BOI!

First off, hopefully you get better soon. Secondly I never said you have depression, therefore strike one against you in regards to this argument. As such i have no qualms in saying "practice what you preach" when you say " Please for the love of gawd learn to differentiate between the two." So I guess this makes you the idiot? (Your logic, not mine) Moving on from this you just claimed just now that your depression is documented. " Yes, I have been recently hospitalized. I started going blind recently. So, yes having the account banned has added to my already overwhelming depression. My depression is documented. However, as my account has been recently banned, I am allowed 6 months to see a doctor and be diagnosed with depression even if I have not been previously." (Your words) So unless you are calling me an idiot for something I would've had yet to comment about then it is clear you should properly read the things I've said.

If you actually did bring this case to the courts then Riot would have all the right to defend themselves. " They can't prosecute me for making false claims as I haven't made any or for lying because I have not lied. They couldn't do that anyway even if I was lying because there is no injury to them in saying such things on their own forums, this is not a news company making articles to write about them. DERP! LEARN THE LAW BOI!" (Your words again) If it were judged that you were lying about the game being a large contributing factor to your depression then your case loses all of its merit. After that you may be judged for lying to the court (it would become a separate case unto itself)

And your final statement. Sigh. If you'd even bothered to read the entire terms of use you would see that Riot has a rule about loaning your account to other people. :) (You've kinda bitten yourself in the butt here) In section 1.4 of the terms of use Riot clearly state you are not supposed to share your account with other people) I have provided the specific clauses you should look over previously (which you apparently did not even heed attention to as you dismissed them previously). Therefore Riot can link you directly to your account as they require that you be honest when identifying yourself when creating an account.

You call me feeble and close minded, you even call me biased, yet I have been objective throughout most of my entire argument? I have objectively shown you the facts, objectively given you the information and Riot's policies. Even when I'm toying with you I have been objectively using your logic

JorenciceMay 23, 20172 votes

You realize he's trolling you right?

PsyrixMay 23, 20171 votes

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You realize he's trolling you right?

The fact that he's failing makes it more enjoyable for me :) was really hoping he'd make a comment about english and my usage of it :) Tell me now. Whose do u think was better? Whose argument was more logical, more objective and more grammatically correct?

PsyrixMay 23, 20171 votes

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First off, hopefully you get better soon. Secondly I never said you have depression, therefore strike one against you in regards to this argument. As such i have no qualms in saying "practice what you preach" when you say " Please for the love of gawd learn to differentiate between the two." So I guess this makes you the idiot? (Your logic, not mine) Moving on from this you just claimed just now that your depression is documented. " Yes, I have been recently hospitalized. I started going blind recently. So, yes having the account banned has added to my already overwhelming depression. My depression is documented. However, as my account has been recently banned, I am allowed 6 months to see a doctor and be diagnosed with depression even if I have not been previously." (Your words) So unless you are calling me an idiot for something I would've had yet to comment about then it is clear you should properly read the things I've said.

If you actually did bring this case to the courts then Riot would have all the right to defend themselves. " They can't prosecute me for making false claims as I haven't made any or for lying because I have not lied. They couldn't do that anyway even if I was lying because there is no injury to them in saying such things on their own forums, this is not a news company making articles to write about them. DERP! LEARN THE LAW BOI!" (Your words again) If it were judged that you were lying about the game being a large contributing factor to your depression then your case loses all of its merit. After that you may be judged for lying to the court (it would become a separate case unto itself)

And your final statement. Sigh. If you'd even bothered to read the entire terms of use you would see that Riot has a rule about loaning your account to other people. :) (You've kinda bitten yourself in the butt here) In section 1.4 of the terms of use Riot clearly state you are not supposed to share your account with other people) I have provided the specific clauses you should look over previously (which you apparently did not even heed attention to as you dismissed them previously). Therefore Riot can link you directly to your account as they require that you be honest when identifying yourself when creating an account.

You call me feeble and close minded, you even call me biased, yet I have been objective throughout most of my entire argument? I have objectively shown you the facts, objectively given you the information and Riot's policies. Even when I'm toying with you I have been objectively using your logic

Oh, i didn't respond to your topic about Riot paying you. Do you not owe them money then? You are using their product, something they painstakingly took hours to design. If you use someones product shouldnt you have had to pay for it then by that logic? No. It's a product they decided would be for free, you knew you wouldn't get paid as you are in no way supported by that company. If you used that logic then supermarkets would have to pay you to use their products, farmers would have to pay supermarkets to sell their produce. Your argument and logic is flawed. There was no agreement made by you and Riot that you would get paid, unless you participated in some tournament. At that point, sure. Yes you can be paid in the form of an award.

Does Microsoft Word pay you each time you make a document? Does Google pay you each time you make a search? Does Facebook/Social media pay you for having a profile? Does your internet provider pay you for using their internet? No. You do not work for them, you have not provided much of anything that is useful for the benefit of the company (other than what you willingly and needlessly paid to obtain access to skins and other things). Do not be so self entitled to think the world revolves around you and that you are owed something merely by the fact you exist.

Umbral RegentMay 23, 20172 votes

I'm not sure if you're joking or genuinely serious. I hope for your sake it's the former.

Blind GamingMay 23, 20171 votes

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I'm not sure if you're joking or genuinely serious. I hope for your sake it's the former.

I am serious. Do you think Riot will argue against what the US Supreme Court has to say about the matter? I sure as hell don't think they will.

Umbral RegentMay 23, 20172 votes

They won't need to. If I'm not mistaken, you're talking about reclaiming skins/other content from a banned account? If the Terms of Service or End-User License Agreement say "no, you can't do that", then, no. You can't do that.

Besides, the US Supreme Court isn't going to bother with something as petty as someone wanting to get their content back from a game they couldn't even play by the rules of. It's just plain petty.

Blind GamingMay 23, 20171 votes

By including this in their terms of service i believe Riot has f#^%d themselves. As I've already said. According to the US Supreme Court, If I bought it I own it. If I paid for it, it's mine. That would contradict a supreme court ruling by saying i wont have access to someone I have paid to have access to and therefore own access to it. Furthermore, it's not petty, they are ripping us gamers off by banning us. They ban us in hopes of us creating a new account and spending more time and money to get our new account to where the previous one was......that's really all it is and without a doubt why they do it.

Umbral RegentMay 23, 20172 votes

Well, if you want the US Supreme Court to overrule Riot's Terms of Service/EULA, by all means, take it to the Supreme Court - not the League of Legends forums. Elsewise, you're not actually going to get anywhere.

And, you can't spew that "Riot's a bunch of extortionists banning people for ez munny" propaganda when they literally offer free stuff (you can buy Champions for IP, and you can earn Skins/Cosmetics for literally no cost just by being good at the game).

By including that "they ban us in hopes of creating a new account" schtick in your response, I believe you have f#^%d yourself.

Blind GamingMay 23, 20171 votes

[{quoted}](name=Umbral Regent,realm=NA,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=gyUWaEsn,comment-id=00020000000000000000,timestamp=2017-05-23T09:29:54.775+0000)

Well, if you want the US Supreme Court to overrule Riot's Terms of Service/EULA, by all means, take it to the Supreme Court - not the League of Legends forums. Elsewise, you're not actually going to get anywhere.

And, you can't spew that "Riot's a bunch of extortionists banning people for ez munny" propaganda when they literally offer free stuff (you can buy Champions for IP, and you can earn Skins/Cosmetics for literally no cost just by being good at the game).

By including that "they ban us in hopes of creating a new account" schtick in your response, I believe you have f#^%d yourself.

Meow! I can say what I want when I want how I want if I want!

PsyrixMay 23, 20171 votes

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Meow! I can say what I want when I want how I want if I want!

Then know that every action has consequences :)

Blind GamingMay 23, 20171 votes

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Then know that every action has consequences :)

Really? Man, I had no idea.....Wow, just wow. Who knew?

Blind GamingMay 23, 20171 votes

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Then know that every action has consequences :)

Actually let me tell you two stories about how things really work. I had a guy threaten to kill me a long time ago, and even chased me down in a car with his friend who was 3 times my size and had a gun on him. The guy who made the treat was a convicted felon with a violent past. I called the police while they were chasing me and the police said sorry, we can't do anything until they actually attempt to kill you. So, a cop can't or wont do anything about it unless they try, in which case odds are you would die before they did anything about it. Another time I was working at for a short time, very short. I was working one day and the owner of the shop knew I wanted to upgrade my pc. So, he told me he could get me a deal on the parts I wanted, because he was a dealer. So, I was like sweet, let's do this. I paid for the parts upfront as he asked. Then I asked about them about a week later. He ordered off newegg, and I know it only takes like 3-5 business days maximum to get all the orders I've made from them. So I asked him for a receipt, he hands me the one he made for the shop. I say no the one from newegg. He hands me a shopping cart printout. I say, no I want the receipt. He says he don't have it. i tell him to login to the computer and get on newegg so I can confirm that he ordered the parts. He says no he cant, cuz he's busy. I say with what, you've been sitting there yacking for an hour. So, I leave. I come back the next day and ask about the parts. Now, apparently his bank account was hacked. I say: No, no one would dare hack a bank account and risk federal time for any account in this poor town. So I aask for my money back, nope cant do that either. Then the next day the credit card company failed to add the funds to his account. So, I go to the police. They say they can't do anything about it, it's a civil matter. So, I contact the guy for that.....forget what they are called. He says there is nothing they can do. I even went to the mayor, and city administrator, NOTHING. So, the next day I go back to the shop. I ask about the parts, nope, dont got them, but now he says hes ordered them. So, I ask for the receipt. Can;t do it, he says. So, now we're back to this, I say. So, in front of like 8 customers I have to threaten to put this guys head through the glass has he is standing behind if I come back the next day and he don;t have either the parts or my money back. So, I go back the next day, and guess what, magically, my money is there. Not every action has a consequence, unless you force one. They banned me(action), I will sue them(consequence I am making).

PsyrixMay 23, 20171 votes

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Actually let me tell you two stories about how things really work. I had a guy threaten to kill me a long time ago, and even chased me down in a car with his friend who was 3 times my size and had a gun on him. The guy who made the treat was a convicted felon with a violent past. I called the police while they were chasing me and the police said sorry, we can't do anything until they actually attempt to kill you. So, a cop can't or wont do anything about it unless they try, in which case odds are you would die before they did anything about it. Another time I was working at for a short time, very short. I was working one day and the owner of the shop knew I wanted to upgrade my pc. So, he told me he could get me a deal on the parts I wanted, because he was a dealer. So, I was like sweet, let's do this. I paid for the parts upfront as he asked. Then I asked about them about a week later. He ordered off newegg, and I know it only takes like 3-5 business days maximum to get all the orders I've made from them. So I asked him for a receipt, he hands me the one he made for the shop. I say no the one from newegg. He hands me a shopping cart printout. I say, no I want the receipt. He says he don't have it. i tell him to login to the computer and get on newegg so I can confirm that he ordered the parts. He says no he cant, cuz he's busy. I say with what, you've been sitting there yacking for an hour. So, I leave. I come back the next day and ask about the parts. Now, apparently his bank account was hacked. I say: No, no one would dare hack a bank account and risk federal time for any account in this poor town. So I aask for my money back, nope cant do that either. Then the next day the credit card company failed to add the funds to his account. So, I go to the police. They say they can't do anything about it, it's a civil matter. So, I contact the guy for that.....forget what they are called. He says there is nothing they can do. I even went to the mayor, and city administrator, NOTHING. So, the next day I go back to the shop. I ask about the parts, nope, dont got them, but now he says hes ordered them. So, I ask for the receipt. Can;t do it, he says. So, now we're back to this, I say. So, in front of like 8 customers I have to threaten to put this guys head through the glass has he is standing behind if I come back the next day and he don;t have either the parts or my money back. So, I go back the next day, and guess what, magically, my money is there. Not every action has a consequence, unless you force one. They banned me(action), I will sue them(consequence I am making).

I said every action has its consequence, I never said whether or not it is good or bad. And do not be so self conscious to think that someone doing something bad will always have a negative affect on them whilst eventually having a positive affect on you. News alert: The world isn't directly fair. Good things happen to bad people, bad things happen to good people, good things happen to good people and bad things happen to bad people. Stuff happens to people is my point. Just be prepared to accept the consequences of your actions. You can try to sue them, but you'll likely fail. If you make your claims of becoming physically and more mentally sick due to the game Riot can accuse you of lying (unless you have a previous record before today) until you are actually able to provide the necessary documentation to disprove that claim.

Who is TaliyahMay 23, 20172 votes

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Sorry, but you agreed to this.

Blind GamingMay 23, 20171 votes

A ruling of a supreme court will supersede any Terms of Service there is. DO YOU ALL KNOW NOTHING ABOUT THE LAW? ANY AND ALL THINGS. ALL TERMS OF SERVICE, ALL CONTRACTS, AND ALL THINGS THAT ARE PRESENTED TO A COURT ARE OPEN TO INTERPRETATION!!!!!!!! ALL THINGS, YES THAT INCLUDES RIOTS TERMS OF SERVICE......ITS BECAUSE OF PEOPLE LIKE YOU THAT GAMERS ARE BEING SCAMMED BY GAME COMPANIES THAT USE THIS SORT OF TERMS OF SERVICE. THEY BAN YOU IN HOPES THAT YOU WILL START A NEW ACCOUNT TO SPEND TIME AND MONEY ON TO REGAIN WHAT YOU HAVE HAD TAKEN AWAY FROM YOU!!!! JESUS PEOPLE LEARN SOMETHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

PsyrixMay 23, 20171 votes

[{quoted}](name=Blind Gaming,realm=NA,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=gyUWaEsn,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2017-05-23T08:40:03.383+0000)

A ruling of a supreme court will supersede any Terms of Service there is. DO YOU ALL KNOW NOTHING ABOUT THE LAW? ANY AND ALL THINGS. ALL TERMS OF SERVICE, ALL CONTRACTS, AND ALL THINGS THAT ARE PRESENTED TO A COURT ARE OPEN TO INTERPRETATION!!!!!!!! ALL THINGS, YES THAT INCLUDES RIOTS TERMS OF SERVICE......ITS BECAUSE OF PEOPLE LIKE YOU THAT GAMERS ARE BEING SCAMMED BY GAME COMPANIES THAT USE THIS SORT OF TERMS OF SERVICE. THEY BAN YOU IN HOPES THAT YOU WILL START A NEW ACCOUNT TO SPEND TIME AND MONEY ON TO REGAIN WHAT YOU HAVE HAD TAKEN AWAY FROM YOU!!!! JESUS PEOPLE LEARN SOMETHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So you have clearly stated "ANY AND ALL THINGS. ALL TERMS OF SERVICE, ALL CONTRACTS, AND ALL THINGS THAT ARE PRESENTED TO A COURT ARE OPEN TO INTERPRETATION!!!!!!!! ALL THINGS, YES THAT INCLUDES RIOTS TERMS OF SERVICE" emphasis on the "any and all things" (although you did emphasize everything because it's in all caps lol). Therefore Riot's terms of use may supersede your original claim about the supreme court (to which I gave you evidence that it won't hold up anyways). Additionally in order for your claim to be brought to the supreme court it will somehow have to go through federal courts. If anything, it would go to the state courts who are very unlikely to grant you your request unless you have an excellent lawyer, have been hospitalized and diagnosed by a valid doctor/psychiatrist, and have had all this happen before today. If it hasn't been done before today, then the defense can, and most likely will, state that this was all a rouse. From there you can be prosecuted and charged with lying to the court.

Blind GamingMay 23, 20171 votes

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So you have clearly stated "ANY AND ALL THINGS. ALL TERMS OF SERVICE, ALL CONTRACTS, AND ALL THINGS THAT ARE PRESENTED TO A COURT ARE OPEN TO INTERPRETATION!!!!!!!! ALL THINGS, YES THAT INCLUDES RIOTS TERMS OF SERVICE" emphasis on the "any and all things" (although you did emphasize everything because it's in all caps lol). Therefore Riot's terms of use may supersede your original claim about the supreme court (to which I gave you evidence that it won't hold up anyways). Additionally in order for your claim to be brought to the supreme court it will somehow have to go through federal courts. If anything, it would go to the state courts who are very unlikely to grant you your request unless you have an excellent lawyer, have been hospitalized and diagnosed by a valid doctor/psychiatrist, and have had all this happen before today. If it hasn't been done before today, then the defense can, and most likely will, state that this was all a rouse. From there you can be prosecuted and charged with lying to the court.

The account was recently banned, very recently. And as such, I am allowed by the courts to be given ample time to procure such a diagnosis. If memory serves me correctly, it is in-fact a period of 6 months I would be allowed to prove I am in-fact depressed because fo this. It most certainly does not have to be before today. Furthermore, if I perceive it to be the truth because I am feeling depressed, then it is a fact I am depressed in court. No one could argue that is not a fact. They can't prove I am not depressed right now simply because I haven't seen a psychologist for depression yet. I can appeal a decision all I want, all the way to the supreme court. I don't need a lawyer to do any of this. People can represent themselves. Please tell me the law and any statute of said law regarding your claim I must without a doubt be diagnosed with depression before I say I am depressed? Not that I even said such a thing, I merely said I could argue as such. GET SMART BOI!

PsyrixMay 23, 20171 votes

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The account was recently banned, very recently. And as such, I am allowed by the courts to be given ample time to procure such a diagnosis. If memory serves me correctly, it is in-fact a period of 6 months I would be allowed to prove I am in-fact depressed because fo this. It most certainly does not have to be before today. Furthermore, if I perceive it to be the truth because I am feeling depressed, then it is a fact I am depressed in court. No one could argue that is not a fact. They can't prove I am not depressed right now simply because I haven't seen a psychologist for depression yet. I can appeal a decision all I want, all the way to the supreme court. I don't need a lawyer to do any of this. People can represent themselves. Please tell me the law and any statute of said law regarding your claim I must without a doubt be diagnosed with depression before I say I am depressed? Not that I even said such a thing, I merely said I could argue as such. GET SMART BOI!

And again, I never said you were depressed. I merely addressed the fact that you'd likely have to follow the claim that Craig Smallwood made (unless your name is Craig Smallwood). Additionally I said that you could and likely would be accused of your allegations (depression and hospitalization due to the game) being a rouse if your records were not in place before today.

Blind GamingMay 23, 20171 votes

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And again, I never said you were depressed. I merely addressed the fact that you'd likely have to follow the claim that Craig Smallwood made (unless your name is Craig Smallwood). Additionally I said that you could and likely would be accused of your allegations (depression and hospitalization due to the game) being a rouse if your records were not in place before today.

And I told you that the courts would most certainly allow ample time for a diagnosis. Even if I was in court tomorrow, they would allow me ample time for a diagnosis in such a case you doofus. LEARN STUFF! AT LEAST MAKE YOUR COMMENTS BELIEVABLE MY DOOD!

PsyrixMay 23, 20171 votes

[{quoted}](name=Blind Gaming,realm=NA,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=gyUWaEsn,comment-id=00050000000000000000,timestamp=2017-05-23T11:57:41.884+0000)

And I told you that the courts would most certainly allow ample time for a diagnosis. Even if I was in court tomorrow, they would allow me ample time for a diagnosis in such a case you doofus. LEARN STUFF! AT LEAST MAKE YOUR COMMENTS BELIEVABLE MY DOOD!

Sure they'll probably allow time, but Riot can still (and most likely will make that accusation and without documents to contradict it the courts will lean more in their favor than yours.

Additionally, since I have not called you out on this yet, why do you insist on resorting to insults when I provide you the information that further stacks up against your stance..... Information you do not seem to even read?

Blind GamingMay 23, 20171 votes

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Sure they'll probably allow time, but Riot can still (and most likely will make that accusation and without documents to contradict it the courts will lean more in their favor than yours.

Additionally, since I have not called you out on this yet, why do you insist on resorting to insults when I provide you the information that further stacks up against your stance..... Information you do not seem to even read?

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OleandervineMay 23, 20171 votes

This is a PDF file of a court case in which a man was suing Google because Google denied him advertising services after he violated their terms of service. The courts ruled in favor of Google in stating that their Terms of Service, that prevents the consumer from proceeding without agreeing to the contract that was above the buttons, was binding and that if the consumer clicked the agreement button, they acknowledged and willfully entered a contract. Therefore, if you agreed to Riot's TOS, you entered a binding contract and the courts will not back you. http://www.paed.uscourts.gov/documents/opinions/07D0411P.pdf

Blind GamingMay 23, 20171 votes

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This is a PDF file of a court case in which a man was suing Google because Google denied him advertising services after he violated their terms of service. The courts ruled in favor of Google in stating that their Terms of Service, that prevents the consumer from proceeding without agreeing to the contract that was above the buttons, was binding and that if the consumer clicked the agreement button, they acknowledged and willfully entered a contract. Therefore, if you agreed to Riot's TOS, you entered a binding contract and the courts will not back you. http://www.paed.uscourts.gov/documents/opinions/07D0411P.pdf

QUIT TRYING TO GIVE ME VIRUSES MAN, I AINT FALLING THAT! Furthermore, DID THAT GUY BUY ANYTHING FROM THEM? NO, HE DID NOT! BUT I BOUGHT SOMETHING FROM RIOT, WHICH THEY HAVE STOLEN FROM ME!

Who is TaliyahMay 23, 20171 votes

You bought the RIGHT to have access to various champions, skins and other virtuell items.

Riot has taken away your right to access these items because you broke their rules. https://i.gyazo.com/ef1e726ec328ab46beef15d305cf1f85.png

Blind GamingMay 23, 20171 votes

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You bought the RIGHT to have access to various champions, skins and other virtuell items.

Riot has taken away your right to access these items because you broke their rules. https://i.gyazo.com/ef1e726ec328ab46beef15d305cf1f85.png

If i buy the right to have access to it, how can they take it away? I now have a right to it, as you put it. I LIVE IN AMURICA, YOU CANT TAKE AWAY MY RIGHTS! If I cursed while watching my tv will they come take that as well? WHERE DOES IT END?

Who is TaliyahMay 23, 20171 votes

You violated their rules, because of that they take your right away to play on that account. https://i.gyazo.com/7b4d4330970f167cfc35bf31bd70304a.png